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The Empire Strikes Back...the pass

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Brian...relax man. Light up a cigar and listen to a little MUSIC

Let's not take this too seriously....plus, the Rangers are up 2 rock on the Caps! Life is Good :thumbs:



Thanks Gary & Jake for bringing my day back up.. I was feeling a bit down..
That's what friends do Brian.... :thumbs:
 
On long car trips, my wife can usually be counted on to slip our Figrin D'an and the Modal Nodes CD into the changer when I'm not looking.

Just to further elevate the mood, here are a few pictures of Star Wars-related skateboard decks. There are a whole pile of them that have been made through the years by various companies, so I'll just post a few for now...

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GAS skateboards, early/mid-90s, part of a three-deck set with a Yoda deck that I can't find a picture of very easily. I think the pictures may have been stolen from the VHS boxed set of the original trilogy--this deck company, though short lived, mainly made decks with graphics comprised of stolen photographs, particularly those featuring Drew Barrymore in various states of undress and sluttitude. I'd estimate current value around $200 each.


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Broken Skateboards, 2006/7-ish, small run, 50-100 total made of each deck. It's a Canada-based company owned by a forum friend of mine that makes decks just as a hobby. He's a psychiatrist by day. Current value $75-100 or so each.
 
My P/T's are in to Brian and waiting for approval. Jim has the pass and you all can bet that there will be no more BBMFM after he is done with it. LMAO So as soon as Brian approves my P/T's I'm sure he will post them up.


Mark
 
My P/T's are in to Brian and waiting for approval. Jim has the pass and you all can bet that there will be no more BBMFM after he is done with it. LMAO So as soon as Brian approves my P/T's I'm sure he will post them up.


Mark

I did hear somewhere the Jim is a BBMF slayer...
I wrote back to Mark to adjust a few P/T's we should be on our way very soon.

Thanks
 
My P/T's are in to Brian and waiting for approval. Jim has the pass and you all can bet that there will be no more BBMFM after he is done with it. LMAO So as soon as Brian approves my P/T's I'm sure he will post them up.


Mark

I did hear somewhere the Jim is a BBMF slayer...
I wrote back to Mark to adjust a few P/T's we should be on our way very soon.

Thanks

What's this? A new pass procedure? We are now supposed to submit P's & T's to you privately, Brian? ???
 
My P/T's are in to Brian and waiting for approval. Jim has the pass and you all can bet that there will be no more BBMFM after he is done with it. LMAO So as soon as Brian approves my P/T's I'm sure he will post them up.


Mark

I did hear somewhere the Jim is a BBMF slayer...
I wrote back to Mark to adjust a few P/T's we should be on our way very soon.

Thanks

What's this? A new pass procedure? We are now supposed to submit P's & T's to you privately, Brian? ???

No, this is not a new procedure... P/T's can be put wherever you want to put them. I think some people just like getting things worked out before they make it public, which is completely fine with me...
 
OK. Fine by me too. I just don't recall ever seeing this done in other passes. I thought part of the protocol was getting pass participants to comment on proposed puts & takes. If this is what you will allow as pass host, that's great! Avoids the embarrassment of public humiliation.
 
OK. Fine by me too. I just don't recall ever seeing this done in other passes. I thought part of the protocol was getting pass participants to comment on proposed puts & takes. If this is what you will allow as pass host, that's great! Avoids the embarrassment of public humiliation.

Thats what I felt too, but if you guy's want, then I will post in public the P/T's
 
Looks like we came to a conclusion with Mark's P/T's... I have approved all he has suggested and am awaiting him to put it in this forum.
 
Just so you old timers can talk about my P/T's here they are. My custom has always been to post my P/T's with the pass host first to see what he thinks and then let the rest of your go over what you think may be wrong or right. I feel these are good but have at her guys.




T-#41 AF BTL/ P- AF 8-5-8 SG.
T-#19 WOAM/ P-TAT Black
T-#16 Illusione ~23~ Culebra /P-#45 God of Fire Carlito Robosto from 06'
T-#37 Cohiba Maduro Genios '07 / P-#46 Casa fuente Belicoso
P-#47 DC Maximus #2 Churchill


Mark
 
Label/Receipt Number: 0307 3330 0001 6984 8498
Status: Notice Left

We attempted to deliver your item at 9:24 AM on April 18, 2009 in RAINIER, OR 97048 and a notice was left. You may pick up the item at the Post Office indicated on the notice, go to www.usps.com/redelivery, or call 800-ASK-USPS to arrange for redelivery. If this item is unclaimed after 15 days then it will be returned to the sender. Information, if available, is updated every evening. Please check again later.

***************************************************

Gentlemen, this is the type of stuff that needs to be avoided. With the technology of tracking numbers we can get a pretty good idea of when the package will arrive. Now im not expecting anyone by any mean's to sit home and wait for this package, but this box just took a 4 day trip only to sit in the PO for 2 more day's. In the future, if you cannot be around for the package, please ask to be moved back in the pass or opt out of the pass. I do not know the situations that came up here, for all I know Mark could have ran to the store for 2 mins and missed the package... but I hope to get this pass back in the mail tomorrow, with P/T's or not...

Thanks


Interesting.

I normally wouldn't post my thoughts, but the same odd focus on ridiculous speed/pace appeared to be put above all else in the first pass. Brian, as I told you in the first pass you hosted, IMO passes should be fun and about camaraderie/pleasure/etc. Again, you seem to be quite focused on speed. For example, IIRC you PM'ed me about posting Puts/Takes five times before I even saw the box; two times before the pass arrived at the person before me, once while the passer before me had it, and two times before it arrived at my door. I tried explaining to you that I was working 12-16 hour shifts, was absurdly busy with life, but you just kept plowing away with PM's urging me to get Puts/Take posted so I could get the pass turned around.

Just my $0.02 - passes should be fun and relieve stress, not cause it. Share some smokes and love of the hobby - playing hot potato via the USPS ain't all that fun.

Smoke one and relax :). Judging by the starting list, I know you've got some nice ones. :laugh:

Cheers!
 
Just so you old timers can talk about my P/T's here they are. My custom has always been to post my P/T's with the pass host first to see what he thinks and then let the rest of your go over what you think may be wrong or right. I feel these are good but have at her guys.




T-#41 AF BTL/ P- AF 8-5-8 SG.
T-#19 WOAM/ P-TAT Black
T-#16 Illusione ~23~ Culebra /P-#45 God of Fire Carlito Robosto from 06'
T-#37 Cohiba Maduro Genios '07 / P-#46 Casa fuente Belicoso
P-#47 DC Maximus #2 Churchill


Mark

These have all been approved, thanks Mark..
 
Label/Receipt Number: 0307 3330 0001 6984 8498
Status: Notice Left

We attempted to deliver your item at 9:24 AM on April 18, 2009 in RAINIER, OR 97048 and a notice was left. You may pick up the item at the Post Office indicated on the notice, go to www.usps.com/redelivery, or call 800-ASK-USPS to arrange for redelivery. If this item is unclaimed after 15 days then it will be returned to the sender. Information, if available, is updated every evening. Please check again later.

***************************************************

Gentlemen, this is the type of stuff that needs to be avoided. With the technology of tracking numbers we can get a pretty good idea of when the package will arrive. Now im not expecting anyone by any mean's to sit home and wait for this package, but this box just took a 4 day trip only to sit in the PO for 2 more day's. In the future, if you cannot be around for the package, please ask to be moved back in the pass or opt out of the pass. I do not know the situations that came up here, for all I know Mark could have ran to the store for 2 mins and missed the package... but I hope to get this pass back in the mail tomorrow, with P/T's or not...

Thanks


Interesting.

I normally wouldn't post my thoughts, but the same odd focus on ridiculous speed/pace appeared to be put above all else in the first pass. Brian, as I told you in the first pass you hosted, IMO passes should be fun and about camaraderie/pleasure/etc. Again, you seem to be quite focused on speed. For example, IIRC you PM'ed me about posting Puts/Takes five times before I even saw the box; two times before the pass arrived at the person before me, once while the passer before me had it, and two times before it arrived at my door. I tried explaining to you that I was working 12-16 hour shifts, was absurdly busy with life, but you just kept plowing away with PM's urging me to get Puts/Take posted so I could get the pass turned around.

Just my $0.02 - passes should be fun and relieve stress, not cause it. Share some smokes and love of the hobby - playing hot potato via the USPS ain't all that fun.

Smoke one and relax :) . Judging by the starting list, I know you've got some nice ones. :laugh:

Cheers!


Jeff, you are 100% correct. I agree with you that A New Hope Pass should have been much more lax, but there is a purpose for the speed of this pass. Isy and I are working on getting a huge herf together (special guest's and all) to coincide with the past being on the east coast. The herf is set for the later part of May and once it is in stone, we will not be able to move it... I lit a little fire under Mark's ass way too soon, I realize that and I have appologized to him for it (not knowing the situation he was in). But guy's please remember that the purpose for me pushing the ANHP was... well ... it was my first pass, it went great and I was excited to have the sticks back.. This pass has a purpose to get these sticks back here in a timely fashion. So by all means, smoke a stick, relax and contimplate what your P/T's are, but if I poke once in a while, please don't see it as rushing you, but more as trying to keep with the schedule. At this point, the herf is not set in stone, and may be pushed back a bit due to guest availability. Thanks Jeff for raising this issue.

Guy's I really do appriciate the feedback.. Please keep it coming if you have something to add.

Thanks,
Brian
 
Brian, on the master list of cigars, #'s 32 and 34 look like duplicates. Are one or the other supposed to be something other than a VSG Wizard?
 
Brian, on the master list of cigars, #'s 32 and 34 look like duplicates. Are one or the other supposed to be something other than a VSG Wizard?

Good Point, for some reason I remember Mark saying he was putting another Wizard in, but I could be wrong and I can't find the PM saying so.

Jim, When you get the pass, please check the cigar's with the master list and report any changes..

Thanks
 
Just so you old timers can talk about my P/T's here they are. My custom has always been to post my P/T's with the pass host first to see what he thinks and then let the rest of your go over what you think may be wrong or right. I feel these are good but have at her guys.




T-#41 AF BTL/ P- AF 8-5-8 SG.
T-#19 WOAM/ P-TAT Black
T-#16 Illusione ~23~ Culebra /P-#45 God of Fire Carlito Robosto from 06'
T-#37 Cohiba Maduro Genios '07 / P-#46 Casa fuente Belicoso
P-#47 DC Maximus #2 Churchill


Mark
Mark, at this point, posting your P&Ts for open discussion is meaningless...the Pass Host has already approved them. To argue one way or another about a cigar exchange would (in my mind) be disrespectful to the host.

I totally understand the idea of running your P&Ts by the host via PM, but I always thought that would be if one of them was a bit unorthodox.....like you did with your 3rd P&T, a culebra for a non culebra or a CC for a non-CC.

When I was in my first Newbie Pass, I did PM my P&Ts to Jonesy so I could get a grasp on the whole concept. Brian walked me through it, step by step in a patient manor and I learned from him. You can read all the previous Passes you want, the one that you're in could still be a little different.

That being said, once we gain more experience as we participate in more Passes, I thought the idea of posting them publicly was what this whole process was about....posting your selections and discussing your thought process behind why you proposed them in the first place. Once you learn the basics of 'HTF for HTF' and 'equal value for equal value' and how to calculate pricing to determine a cigar's market value....I believe there is no 'right or wrong', just one person's opinion versus another's....and that's what's up for discussion.

Which now brings me to my point, has the underlying current of the quick pace influenced us to not go public and just send them directly to Brian to stay in stride?....to avoid the discussions back-n-forth that would normally take up a bit of time in the Pass thread? Should the pace dictate the process and take away from the learning curve?

Brian, I don't mean this in a bad way, it's just that the model you have set up in your Passes could be a little intimidating to some of us. You mentioned a sort of 'schedule'...that's hard to maintain when you have the human element involved within a Cigar Pass. If the Pass didn't make it to the Herf that you and Isy have planned, is that such a bad thing? (not unless you planned on giving away all the cigars at the Herf! :laugh: ) Isn't the fact we all just get together OK too?...and the Pass progresses at it's natural pace?

Brian, the fact that you are taking on the undaunted task of running a Pass is wonderful and I appreciate your invitation and all your hard work, let's just put it in the proper light and make it a great experience for everyone involved.

:thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:
 
So after a short deliberation on my Part, here are my P's/T's for approval-

Puts-

12 - Opus X BBMF Maduro from Opus 22 '08
22 - Cohiba Sig VI '03 – unbanded
29 - Monte # 2 '06

Takes-

48- Hoyo de Monterrey Particulares Edicion Limitada 2000
49- AVO 22 Euro Edition (from canister #241 of 2000)
50- Punch Punch from 2006
51- Partagas Series D #4 from 2007

I await the approval/denial :).

Jim
 
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