Ten New Cigar Box Clocks For Sale

[Ginseng]

Noob, newbie, new guy, is not inflammatory nor is it disrespectful; it's simply a term for someone who has not been around very long. It's really no different than a rookie being called a rookie on a baseball or football team.

I think where you feel like the context/tone was taking against you is because generally when a thread like this gets heated it is best for newbie's to stand back watch and learn IMHO.

Hell, I'm a noob myself and proud of it.

Robby

I know a few (just a FEW - somewhere around 10%) rookies who take insult in being called a "rookie". And most others accept the title as a part of the process of becoming something other than a rookie.

What's really ironic - most of the people (if not all) that don't have issues with being called a "rookie" and don't believe it to be some kind of demeaning thing - seem to survive better in the long run. And they are also the group that believe in the rules, follow the rules - and if they want to change the rules follow a tried and true process for changing the rules...

...the other group of "rookies" constantly walk around with a chip on their shoulder. They hate the title, they hate the rules and they generally hate being told what to do. Management is there for no other purpose then to make life miserable for them. Coworkers with tenure are always "talking down" to them. They are the "dinosaurs", after all - what do they know - their ideas are antiquated, they are not nearly as knowledgeable as the "rookie's"...

I sometimes wish I could understand the thought process. And then other times I just figure - it is what it is...

Right on, George. It's all about socialization into any peer group. Call it indoctrination or paying your dues, earning stripes, whatever you will. It's essential that ALL members engage in the process which fully integrates them into the community. You can't force it, you can't short circuit it, you can't get a bye. It is, simply what it is.

Wilkey

 

[AVB]

I wish you guys would post whore the old fashioned way by spreading this BS out rather then have it pile up in one place.

 

[The Volusianator]

Both Davidoffs and one Anejo #48 are gone.

 

[SamClemmons]

I wish you guys would post whore the old fashioned way by spreading this BS out rather then have it pile up in one place.

Ya gotta go where the fly's is to pull the wings off 'em.

NA

 

[KayakinBoy]

In the context that you used the word noob it was a put down IMO.You dont have to agree with me. If you look at your next response to me it becomes very clear your tone and what you were impling IMO.
You might have said you guys rather than noobs. I was trying to give insight to the veterans here with some perspective from a newer member. Noob can be construde as a put down when coming from a Veteran depending how it is stated.

Bob

If you think about the cigar BB like a fraternity, and a newbie as a pledge, does that make it disrespectful? What about the army? Wouldn't a private (newbie) and a sergeant (FOG) fall under the same idea? You can't walk into a bar for the first time and expect to get treated as well as Norm (from cheers). :laugh:

 

[ggiese]

I wish you guys would post whore the old fashioned way by spreading this BS out rather then have it pile up in one place.

My dogs do that - spread their BS out all over the place. Makes it hell to clean up... I rather like it when they pile it in one place. :whistling:

 

[Dickson]

I am a second year noob, newb, rookie, however anyone wants to put it. What little I do know about cigars. I learned on the message boards I frequent, this being my favorite. In ten years. I'll be a tenth year noob in training and so on and so forth.

My only issue is WTF is a BOTL?

My perception of what I have been taught up to this point is: integrity, value of character, honesty but an add on is someone who leaves a fellow BOTL with their pride and dignity intact. I'm not seeing this whenever Vol posts a sale.

If it's about a stupid cigar, tell me where to find it and I'll send you two of them. If that will make you happy. I do agree that telling one to "kiss my ass" is better done in person, which I've never had a problem with. On the other hand find me one person who has not told another, at least once in their life time, those very words and he/she is either a saint or a liar.

IMO the only people or person who should have a say as to how Vol conducts his business is, the board admin. Sorry fellas, just and opinion.

Hey Gary,

You leave Jim for Myrtle? What's this world coming to. I'll be smoking an Davidoff 100 Year Anni Robusto, in the name of good weather and hopefully a hole in one. Enjoy and be safe brother. :thumbs:

Dickson

 

[SamClemmons]

I am a second year noob, newb, rookie, however anyone wants to put it. What little I do know about cigars. I learned on the message boards I frequent, this being my favorite. In ten years. I'll be a tenth year noob in training and so on and so forth.

My only issue is WTF is a BOTL?

My perception of what I have been taught up to this point is: integrity, value of character, honesty but an add on is someone who leaves a fellow BOTL with their pride and dignity intact. I'm not seeing this whenever Vol posts a sale.

If it's about a stupid cigar, tell me where to find it and I'll send you two of them. If that will make you happy. I do agree that telling one to "kiss my ass" is better done in person, which I've never had a problem with. On the other hand find me one person who has not told another, at least once in their life time, those very words and he/she is either a saint or a liar.

IMO the only people or person who should have a say as to how Vol conducts his business is, the board admin. Sorry fellas, just and opinion.

Hey Gary,

You leave Jim for Myrtle? What's this world coming to. I'll be smoking an Davidoff 100 Year Anni Robusto, in the name of good weather and hopefully a hole in one. Enjoy and be safe brother. :thumbs:

Dickson

It started with this from the thread originator:

And you wonder why I didn't answer your question. Goerge, what do you mean again, weren't you one of them who wanted these in the vendor section to begin with? So please tell me what rule of yours I'm breaking now?

All he had to do was post a fucking price but did he? No. He took a swipe at George. If you don't see that then you're not looking. Ask yourself why this happens in this guys sale threads. It's him and not anyone else.
Trust me, if Rod had a problem with this he'd say so.

NA

 

[CoventryCat86]

I am a second year noob, newb, rookie, however anyone wants to put it. What little I do know about cigars. I learned on the message boards I frequent, this being my favorite. In ten years. I'll be a tenth year noob in training and so on and so forth.

My only issue is WTF is a BOTL?

My perception of what I have been taught up to this point is: integrity, value of character, honesty but an add on is someone who leaves a fellow BOTL with their pride and dignity intact. I'm not seeing this whenever Vol posts a sale.

If it's about a stupid cigar, tell me where to find it and I'll send you two of them. If that will make you happy. I do agree that telling one to "kiss my ass" is better done in person, which I've never had a problem with. On the other hand find me one person who has not told another, at least once in their life time, those very words and he/she is either a saint or a liar.

IMO the only people or person who should have a say as to how Vol conducts his business is, the board admin. Sorry fellas, just and opinion.

Hey Gary,

You leave Jim for Myrtle? What's this world coming to. I'll be smoking an Davidoff 100 Year Anni Robusto, in the name of good weather and hopefully a hole in one. Enjoy and be safe brother. :thumbs:

Dickson

Dickson, I think you're a good guy but for cryin' out loud you're completely missing the big picture here....

 

[Dickson]

I am a second year noob, newb, rookie, however anyone wants to put it. What little I do know about cigars. I learned on the message boards I frequent, this being my favorite. In ten years. I'll be a tenth year noob in training and so on and so forth.

My only issue is WTF is a BOTL?

My perception of what I have been taught up to this point is: integrity, value of character, honesty but an add on is someone who leaves a fellow BOTL with their pride and dignity intact. I'm not seeing this whenever Vol posts a sale.

If it's about a stupid cigar, tell me where to find it and I'll send you two of them. If that will make you happy. I do agree that telling one to "kiss my ass" is better done in person, which I've never had a problem with. On the other hand find me one person who has not told another, at least once in their life time, those very words and he/she is either a saint or a liar.

IMO the only people or person who should have a say as to how Vol conducts his business is, the board admin. Sorry fellas, just and opinion.

Hey Gary,

You leave Jim for Myrtle? What's this world coming to. I'll be smoking an Davidoff 100 Year Anni Robusto, in the name of good weather and hopefully a hole in one. Enjoy and be safe brother. :thumbs:

Dickson

Dickson, I think you're a good guy but for cryin' out loud you're completely missing the big picture here....

Which would that be?

 

[ggiese]

I am a second year noob, newb, rookie, however anyone wants to put it. What little I do know about cigars. I learned on the message boards I frequent, this being my favorite. In ten years. I'll be a tenth year noob in training and so on and so forth.

My only issue is WTF is a BOTL?

My perception of what I have been taught up to this point is: integrity, value of character, honesty but an add on is someone who leaves a fellow BOTL with their pride and dignity intact. I'm not seeing this whenever Vol posts a sale.

If it's about a stupid cigar, tell me where to find it and I'll send you two of them. If that will make you happy. I do agree that telling one to "kiss my ass" is better done in person, which I've never had a problem with. On the other hand find me one person who has not told another, at least once in their life time, those very words and he/she is either a saint or a liar.

IMO the only people or person who should have a say as to how Vol conducts his business is, the board admin. Sorry fellas, just and opinion.

Hey Gary,

You leave Jim for Myrtle? What's this world coming to. I'll be smoking an Davidoff 100 Year Anni Robusto, in the name of good weather and hopefully a hole in one. Enjoy and be safe brother. :thumbs:

Dickson

Dickson, I think you're a good guy but for cryin' out loud you're completely missing the big picture here....

Which would that be?

It took over a hundred posts in this thread alone to get to this point... And there are quite a few more threads with similar stats...



I'm guessing you were possibly looking for a simple answer??? ???

 

[Dickson]

I am a second year noob, newb, rookie, however anyone wants to put it. What little I do know about cigars. I learned on the message boards I frequent, this being my favorite. In ten years. I'll be a tenth year noob in training and so on and so forth.

My only issue is WTF is a BOTL?

My perception of what I have been taught up to this point is: integrity, value of character, honesty but an add on is someone who leaves a fellow BOTL with their pride and dignity intact. I'm not seeing this whenever Vol posts a sale.

If it's about a stupid cigar, tell me where to find it and I'll send you two of them. If that will make you happy. I do agree that telling one to "kiss my ass" is better done in person, which I've never had a problem with. On the other hand find me one person who has not told another, at least once in their life time, those very words and he/she is either a saint or a liar.

IMO the only people or person who should have a say as to how Vol conducts his business is, the board admin. Sorry fellas, just and opinion.

Hey Gary,

You leave Jim for Myrtle? What's this world coming to. I'll be smoking an Davidoff 100 Year Anni Robusto, in the name of good weather and hopefully a hole in one. Enjoy and be safe brother. :thumbs:

Dickson

Dickson, I think you're a good guy but for cryin' out loud you're completely missing the big picture here....

Which would that be?

It took over a hundred posts in this thread alone to get to this point... And there are quite a few more threads with similar stats...



I'm guessing you were possibly looking for a simple answer??? ???

George,

I'm a simple newblette!!!!! :blush:

 

[JHolmes763]

And most others accept the title as a part of the process of becoming something other than a rookie.

Just my opinion here, but I think this "process of becoming something other than a rookie" or newb, if you will, is different here than many other places. It's very long. One step out of line or calling attention to yourself sets you back for good or for an even longer time. You're expected to "post less, read more" for quite a while...

It's not insurmountable, though. I just think that it's a very long process here that most people nowadays aren't used to. You guys at the top of the hill don't see how the hill has changed and how the new guys are struggling to get to the top... you don't care because you're already there (for example).

:shrug:

---John Holmes...

 

[Infinity]

And most others accept the title as a part of the process of becoming something other than a rookie.

Just my opinion here, but I think this "process of becoming something other than a rookie" or newb, if you will, is different here than many other places. It's very long. One step out of line or calling attention to yourself sets you back for good or for an even longer time. You're expected to "post less, read more" for quite a while...

It's not insurmountable, though. I just think that it's a very long process here that most people nowadays aren't used to. You guys at the top of the hill don't see how the hill has changed and how the new guys are struggling to get to the top... you don't care because you're already there (for example).

:shrug:

---John Holmes...

It is what it is and that's not going to change! The experienced members have seen it all and done that, many times over. They see things we do not see, they also see accidents waiting for a place to happen.
Respect is earned, not given. Keep in mind though, respect and being a noob are two different things. Nobody will disrespect you because you are a noob, you bring that upon yourself.

Brian

 

[AVB]

So much has to do with the person. If you go back far enough you'll even find some posts where I was "done" here too but I'm still around and hopefully contributing something useful once in a while. Could be I learned a few things along the way that seem to be escaping some others. JMO.

And most others accept the title as a part of the process of becoming something other than a rookie.

Just my opinion here, but I think this "process of becoming something other than a rookie" or newb, if you will, is different here than many other places. It's very long. One step out of line or calling attention to yourself sets you back for good or for an even longer time. You're expected to "post less, read more" for quite a while...

It's not insurmountable, though. I just think that it's a very long process here that most people nowadays aren't used to. You guys at the top of the hill don't see how the hill has changed and how the new guys are struggling to get to the top... you don't care because you're already there (for example).

:shrug:

---John Holmes...

 

[Ginseng]

Respect is earned, not given. Keep in mind though, respect and being a noob are two different things. Nobody will disrespect you because you are a noob, you bring that upon yourself.

Brian

Well said, Brian.

Wilkey

 

[ggiese]

With all due respect, I dont think its of anyones business what Wade or ANYONE chooses to charge for labor. We are welcome to take our business elsewhere. No one is holding a gun to anyones head and making them buy something. What makes Wade's sitaution any different from say a car mechanic? If you take tyour car to someone and their rates are too high, you go somewhere else. If someone wants to start making clocks and undercutting wades prices then go right ahead and do it.

Excuse me, but my mechanic is not a fawning parasite.

 

[wasy]

From here on out you will address me as Officer Mike Danko

 

[Devil Doc]

With all due respect, I dont think its of anyones business what Wade or ANYONE chooses to charge for labor. We are welcome to take our business elsewhere. No one is holding a gun to anyones head and making them buy something. What makes Wade's sitaution any different from say a car mechanic? If you take tyour car to someone and their rates are too high, you go somewhere else. If someone wants to start making clocks and undercutting wades prices then go right ahead and do it.

Excuse me, but my mechanic is not a fawning parasite.

Technician, George. You're showing your age gramps. :laugh:

Doc.

 

[JHolmes763]

It is what it is and that's not going to change!

I wasn't asking for it to change... just sharing my opinion.