SPRING FEVER PASS (April pass)

[enerjay]

 

[emodx]

so really...

how many unwritten rules are there? ???


i have a bad habit of saying what's on my mind sometimes. so here's to my habit (please don't be offended)...

Take > Put
Equal = Equal
*as many as you like for this pass*

let's not out-think ourselves into a 25+ page pass when we don't need to.

anything you feel is good ettiquette... go with it.

say you don't take from the host... send him one personally... or don't... whatever.

:whistling:

This pass will be for the new guys, myself included, who are looking to participate in the CigarPass spirit. The purpose of this pass is to go through the drill of what a cigar pass is all about, receiving, packing, mailing, puts and takes.

Yeah, the last time I checked this pass was for people to learn about cigar passes while having a good time participating in one. I appologize to Garretbuckeye for over stepping my place on the board trying to impart a little knowledge to the others here. It seems he was offended by me speaking my mind. You know, a wise man once posted, "Read more, post less". Perhaps I should have done that instead. ???

WTF? ??? I'm confused. I'm missing something here. I tried to go back and see where this came from, can't find it, and I can only guess that it was in a PM? But if I remember correctly, you were specifically asked for your input on this pass.

Experienced members On board Are emodx, hojadepuro and ggiese to help guide this pass along.

And while you are not the host of the pass, you have been asked for guidance and assistance. Are you yankin my chain Emo?

Instead of blastin him, I took a sardonic approach. Regardless of that, Lee sent me a PM to appologize a fewdays back. I accepted, and he is now back on track.
-E

 

[kramer0622]

I have a question about a p/t I am thinking about.

I have a Cohiba Red Dot Triangulo and was wondering if it could be traded for the opus-x #5?

I have the price covered. The Cohiba averages to about $11 while the Opus is listed as $8 from the past two takes. I am wondering if the cohiba is not matching the rarity of the Opus? What does everyone think? Jay told me that is was okay but to run it by on the board. Hopefully the pass will be in my hot little hands tomorrow.

 

[garrettbuckeye]

it's good with me. i think the #5 here goes for about $8.50 and is usually in stock for quite some time.

 

[kramer0622]

I got the Pass!!!!!!!!

I haven't had a chance to look it over. I will do that tomorrow after work. I have to finish up a presentation I am giving tomorrow.

 

[Phlicker]

I have a question about a p/t I am thinking about.

I have a Cohiba Red Dot Triangulo and was wondering if it could be traded for the opus-x #5?

I have the price covered. The Cohiba averages to about $11 while the Opus is listed as $8 from the past two takes. I am wondering if the cohiba is not matching the rarity of the Opus? What does everyone think? Jay told me that is was okay but to run it by on the board. Hopefully the pass will be in my hot little hands tomorrow.

Ehh....it may just be me, but I don't think a Dominican Red Dot is anywhere near the caliber of cigar that the Opus is. They're definitely not as rare (available all year long), and the price is inflated due to the Cohiba name. Obviously Jay has the final say, but in my book it doesn't pass the "quality-for-quality" test.

 

[Phlicker]

OK, Jay...here's some spring photos for you:

St. Thomas of Villanova Church on the campus of Villanova University. My wife and I were married here last year, and I work for VU. We were lucky enough to have a few days of absolutely cloudless weather coincide with the height of the cherry tree blooms. I took about 100 different shots, and this was my favorite.

At the same time I wandered around campus and found "the grotto" in bloom as well, so I captured this shot of Our Mother of Good Counsel, and worked a little Photoshop on it to get a nice sepia tone (and bring out the texture in the concrete/stone)

"Pink sky at night is a sailor's delight." On days with high clouds I always try to grab my camera near sunset. This day I got lucky and managed to grab several shots looking over Bryn Mawr as the sky changed from pink to orange to purple.

And since Jay mentioned sunsets, I thought I'd throw this one in. Technically not taken recently, it was shot last spring on our Honeymoon in Hawaii (Kaua'i), but since we just celebrated our 1st anniversary, I decided to include it.

 

[enerjay]

I should like to call on our panel of judges, Red Dot/#5 opus :sign:
hojadepuro
emodx
ggiese


Thank you gentleman

 

[emodx]

I should like to call on our panel of judges, Red Dot/#5 opus :sign:
hojadepuro
emodx
ggiese


Thank you gentleman

thumbs down

 

[enerjay]

I have a question about a p/t I am thinking about.

I have a Cohiba Red Dot Triangulo and was wondering if it could be traded for the opus-x #5?

I have the price covered. The Cohiba averages to about $11 while the Opus is listed as $8 from the past two takes. I am wondering if the cohiba is not matching the rarity of the Opus? What does everyone think? Jay told me that is was okay but to run it by on the board. Hopefully the pass will be in my hot little hands tomorrow.

I have a question about a p/t I am thinking about.

I have a Cohiba Red Dot Triangulo and was wondering if it could be traded for the opus-x #5?

I have the price covered. The Cohiba averages to about $11 while the Opus is listed as $8 from the past two takes. I am wondering if the cohiba is not matching the rarity of the Opus? What does everyone think? Jay told me that is was okay but to run it by on the board. Hopefully the pass will be in my hot little hands tomorrow.

Ehh....it may just be me, but I don't think a Dominican Red Dot is anywhere near the caliber of cigar that the Opus is. They're definitely not as rare (available all year long), and the price is inflated due to the Cohiba name. Obviously Jay has the final say, but in my book it doesn't pass the "quality-for-quality" test.

I should like to call on our panel of judges, Red Dot/#5 opus :sign:
hojadepuro
emodx
ggiese


Thank you gentleman

thumbs down

That is why we have the exp. members on the board.

Sorry Kramer, if this set you back, maybe we can work something out, out side the pass.

 

[kramer0622]

I have a question about a p/t I am thinking about.

I have a Cohiba Red Dot Triangulo and was wondering if it could be traded for the opus-x #5?

I have the price covered. The Cohiba averages to about $11 while the Opus is listed as $8 from the past two takes. I am wondering if the cohiba is not matching the rarity of the Opus? What does everyone think? Jay told me that is was okay but to run it by on the board. Hopefully the pass will be in my hot little hands tomorrow.

I have a question about a p/t I am thinking about.

I have a Cohiba Red Dot Triangulo and was wondering if it could be traded for the opus-x #5?

I have the price covered. The Cohiba averages to about $11 while the Opus is listed as $8 from the past two takes. I am wondering if the cohiba is not matching the rarity of the Opus? What does everyone think? Jay told me that is was okay but to run it by on the board. Hopefully the pass will be in my hot little hands tomorrow.

Ehh....it may just be me, but I don't think a Dominican Red Dot is anywhere near the caliber of cigar that the Opus is. They're definitely not as rare (available all year long), and the price is inflated due to the Cohiba name. Obviously Jay has the final say, but in my book it doesn't pass the "quality-for-quality" test.

I should like to call on our panel of judges, Red Dot/#5 opus :sign:
hojadepuro
emodx
ggiese


Thank you gentleman

thumbs down

That is why we have the exp. members on the board.

Sorry Kramer, if this set you back, maybe we can work something out, out side the pass.

No problem at all. That's why we posted it to the board. I'm working on p/t right now. I will have a list shortly.

 

[kramer0622]

How do these look?

T: #7 A. Fuente Don Carlos Presidente ($9)
P: #61 Montecristo Classic Toro ($9)

T: #34 H. Upmann Reserve Double Corona ($5)
P: #60 Gurkha Signature 101 Maduro ($6)

T: #11 Don Pepin Garcia Exclusivos ($7)
P: #62 Cohiba Red Dot Triangular ($8)


Let me know how this looks and I will have it off to ggiese tomorrow afternoon.

ggiese are you ready?

 

[ggiese]

How do these look?

T: #7 A. Fuente Don Carlos Presidente ($9)
P: #61 Montecristo Classic Toro ($9)

T: #34 H. Upmann Reserve Double Corona ($5)
P: #60 Gurkha Signature 101 Maduro ($6)

T: #11 Don Pepin Garcia Exclusivos ($7)
P: #62 Cohiba Red Dot Triangular ($8)


Let me know how this looks and I will have it off to ggiese tomorrow afternoon.

ggiese are you ready?

I'm ready!!! Fire that bad boy this way!!!

BTW - Dollar for dollar - red dot and Opus X are similar. Rarity for rarity - not even close.

New p/t's - :thumbs:

 

[cody5thou]

Pass is looking good guys, cant wait to see the end. Keep it up, enjoy the little things in life that make men happy.

 

[LOYD]

Just for future knowledge

is it dollar for dollar....rarity for rarity......a bit of both.....usually stated.....or just using your own judgment.

 

[emodx]

Generally speaking, all of the above. Pretty confusing ehhh? Your goal as a passer should be to make the pass better. In this example, a $9 Red Dot for a $9 Opus doesn't make the pass any better. Ultimately, it is up to the pass host. The host "should" stipulate wether it is MSRP for MSRP, ISOM for ISOM, Rareity for Rareity, all of the above, what ever he/she decides. As long as he is consistent through out. Over time making the call becomes easier. If you stick to the addage, make the pass better, then you will be doing good.

Emo

 

[kramer0622]

Generally speaking, all of the above. Pretty confusing ehhh? Your goal as a passer should be to make the pass better. In this example, a $9 Red Dot for a $9 Opus doesn't make the pass any better. Over time making the call becomes easier. If you stick to the addage, make the pass better, then you will be doing good.

Emo

You make a great point about making the pass better. This is good information for all of us noobs to have. I'm glad this experience can help out the rest of us. :thumbs:

 

[kramer0622]

BTW - Dollar for dollar - red dot and Opus X are similar. Rarity for rarity - not even close.

New p/t's - :thumbs:

That was my original thought but I wanted to make sure with Jay and all of you. I want to do right and not step on any toes.

No big whoop! I'm glad the way things have turned out. Thanks for the help!

 

[LOYD]

Generally speaking, all of the above. Pretty confusing ehhh? Your goal as a passer should be to make the pass better. In this example, a $9 Red Dot for a $9 Opus doesn't make the pass any better. Ultimately, it is up to the pass host. The host "should" stipulate wether it is MSRP for MSRP, ISOM for ISOM, Rareity for Rareity, all of the above, what ever he/she decides. As long as he is consistent through out. Over time making the call becomes easier. If you stick to the addage, make the pass better, then you will be doing good.

Emo

Totally understood!

But just for the record......does anything really compare to an opus X.....I mean really???.....lol Not for me anyway....lol

Humor aside,

Thx for the clarification EMO,

Great pass going here. I am learning a tremendous amount from all the chat. Thx again to all. Looking foward to making Jay smile like a fat kid in a choclate factory upon getting his box(es) back!

 

[enerjay]

I suggest using the lowest online price available to figure out the value of any one cigar. Local prices should not be used as it factors in Brick an Mortar markup and state taxes. Also, cigar weekly has a list of MSRP's if you absolutley can not find any price on a cigar. One caveat, CW's database can be rater old on some cigars and does not factor market demand.

Emodx. Has it right.

When I pick up sticks I search the net for the best deal, that is not to say I can find them at MSRP. Some members on CP have that privilege, most do not.

While I am also a New guy around CP, to keep things above board I will ask the experienced members to be the judge on all the puts and takes. This will help me and all the players in this pass.

Please post all comments and concerns, regarding this pass to the board. Insuring fairness.

Not sure if we are still doing that, but here goes

Takes
$7 LFD Limitado II
$7 LFD Lancero
$8 Opus #5

Puts
$7 La Aurora Preferido
$8 Anejo 48
$9 Anejo 49

Hope that looks about right to everyone. If anyone has any questions about them feel free to PM me. Thanks

Brandon

It still looks good to me, but I believe the MSRP on the LFD DL Lancero is $9/each. The sticks you are replacing it with are more than sufficient, though.

This is going to be the problem with posting MSRP for cigars. 4 People might have 4 different opinions on what MSRP should be for a cigar. This is why I recommended to Jay that we not do this. I don't know that it has ever been done in a pass, and do not think it is necessary. I will let him decided on this since it is his pass, but I think the experience members can look at the P/T and tell if they are adequate or not. The LFD Lanceros can be found any time for $150 box.

Brandon

I Have not seen MSRP listed as Brandon said.

This is a first for most of the guys in the pass. With all the eyes on this, I really don't see the need to give are Blessing, on each person's P/T.

If anyone has a question about P/T Ask others in the pass or another FOG on the board.

Myself, I like that, are Experienced members, Brandon,George,Emo are on board, I will look to there council. Becouse I am new myself. :whistling: .

Generally speaking, all of the above. Pretty confusing ehhh? Your goal as a passer should be to make the pass better. In this example, a $9 Red Dot for a $9 Opus doesn't make the pass any better. Ultimately, it is up to the pass host. The host "should" stipulate wether it is MSRP for MSRP, ISOM for ISOM, Rareity for Rareity, all of the above, what ever he/she decides. As long as he is consistent through out. Over time making the call becomes easier. If you stick to the addage, make the pass better, then you will be doing good.

Emo

thanks Emo, again for the great pointers.