Eleuthardt!

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Then you have the likes of me.....

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[CoventryCat86]

I think it's pretty obvious, CC, and I find it amusing that you lambasted DaveDWF for using this tactic,

Please quote the post your are referring to. I won't call you a liar but you've got your facts wrong.

 

[camaroon4me]

Guys, there's obviously some issues here. Both of you are stand up guys, even if both of you want to have the bigger wanker (or BE the bigger wanker)!

Please dont make the rest of us chose, you both have great attributes and have just said some bad things about each other. I dont think we want to have another "who's the bigger asshole" pole.

Can you both agree to disagree so that we can at least keep some level of respect here in the cigar community? It really looks bad when we start eating our own. (No, not a reference to MattR) :laugh:

JV

 

[CoventryCat86]

And again, we have a difference of opinion as to whether or not you are "selfish"

I feel that you are one of the most generous people here with cigars whic as you point out is far from selfish (kinda like calling me a liberal ) but again, this is just my opinion, I feel that it's kinda "selfish" to not back up CPer's on stogiechat at all when they ban us for no reason. We just have a difference of opinion on this one. You've given your explanation as to why you did what you did and I'm certainlly not going to convince you that you're not right. We just have a difference of opinion and handle situations differently.

 

[mrjinglesusa]

Guys, there's obviously some issues here. Both of you are stand up guys, even if both of you want to have the bigger wanker (or BE the bigger wanker)!

Please dont make the rest of us chose, you both have great attributes and have just said some bad things about each other. I dont think we want to have another "who's the bigger asshole" pole.

Can you both agree to disagree so that we can at least keep some level of respect here in the cigar community? It really looks bad when we start eating our own. (No, not a reference to MattR) :laugh:

JV

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:thumbs: I've been trying to say this all along but you put it much better than I.

 

[mrjinglesusa]

And again, we have a difference of opinion as to whether or not you are "selfish"

I feel that you are one of the most generous people here with cigars but again, this is just my opinion, I feel that it's kinda "selfish" to not back up CPer's on stogiechat at all when they ban us for no reason. We just have a difference of opinion on this one. You've given your explanation as to why you did what you did and I'm certainlly not going to convince you that you're not right. We just have a difference of opinion and handle situations differently.

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It looks as though Moki has also been a long-standing member at Stoggiechat (over 300 posts). He probably has developed a bit of a reputation there I would assume (as he has here). Now, this Eleuthardt thing comes out and people from here register over they to warn them. They get pissy, ban people, delete posts, etc. I understand why CC would be a little miffed that Moki didn't defend them. At the same time, I also understand Moki not wanting to ruin his reputation and get involved in a flame-fest over there (personally, I would have done the same). CP is CP and Stoggiechat is Stoggiechat. Why can't we let them have their problems (which they obviously do) and keep it out of this community? Personally, I like it here much more. I'm sure Moki and CC do as well (hopefully). I'm not sure if you two had a problem with each other before this, but this seems a silly thing to come between two BOTLs here on CP. Just my opinion...

Now, who would like to see Moki and CC kiss and make up?

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[cvmfour]

Here's to hoping everything gets resolved :thumbs:

 

[Lee]

I cannot believe I've wasted the last 15 minutes of my life reading this ****...

I have to say I'm a bit disappointed in both Bill and Moki....it's one thing to disagree but this is a little over the top...

 

[mrjinglesusa]

I cannot believe I've wasted the last 15 minutes of my life reading this ****...

I have to say I'm a bit disappointed in both Bill and Moki....it's one thing to disagree but this is a little over the top...

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That's the only reason I have posted in this. If I were considering joining the CP community (which I was only a short time ago), I would have have second thoughts if I read this thread (which is now 16 pages long) first. I would have missed out on a great sampler purchase (thanks bfreebern) and tons of new information.

 

[CoventryCat86]

I cannot believe I've wasted the last 15 minutes of my life reading this ****...

I have to say I'm a bit disappointed in both Bill and Moki....it's one thing to disagree but this is a little over the top...

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That's the only reason I have posted in this. If I were considering joining the CP community (which I was only a short time ago), I would have have second thoughts if I read this thread (which is now 16 pages long) first. I would have missed out on a great sampler purchase (thanks bfreebern) and tons of new information.

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Well then you must have missed quite a few other unpleasant threads from day gone by here. You might fit in better at stogiechat or letstalkcigars Lot of "nice guys" with no clue who don't mind being taken advantage of.

 

[Lee]

Both of you are good guys, fighting amoungst ourselves is kinda pointless but by all means, carry on if you must....

I'm going to my quiet place now... :whistling:

 

[moki]

And again, we have a difference of opinion as to whether or not you are "selfish"

I feel that you are one of the most generous people here with cigars whic as you point out is far from selfish (kinda like calling me a liberal ) but again, this is just my opinion, I feel that it's kinda "selfish" to not back up CPer's on stogiechat at all when they ban us for no reason.  We just have a difference of opinion on this one.  You've given your explanation as to why you did what you did and I'm certainlly not going to convince you that you're not right.  We just have a difference of opinion and handle situations differently.

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Yeah? Well, I think it is selfish of you to believe that you have the right to lambast me if I don't come to your defense in any and every situation. There was a larger picture than just your miffed feelings, CC, there was the issue of not perpetuating an angst-ridden flamewar for no reason. Yes, believe it or not, there more involved in that situation than just you.

We have have different standards of "selfish" -- IMHO, you believing that I should have jumped in and defended you no matter what rukus it would have caused, and no matter whether there was any point to doing so is extremely self-centered.

 

[half full monty]

I cannot believe I've wasted the last 15 minutes of my life reading this ****...

I have to say I'm a bit disappointed in both Bill and Moki....it's one thing to disagree but this is a little over the top...

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That's the only reason I have posted in this. If I were considering joining the CP community (which I was only a short time ago), I would have have second thoughts if I read this thread (which is now 16 pages long) first. I would have missed out on a great sampler purchase (thanks bfreebern) and tons of new information.

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Well then you must have missed quite a few other unpleasant threads from day gone by here. You might fit in better at stogiechat or letstalkcigars Lot of "nice guys" with no clue who don't mind being taken advantage of.

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Way to go CC, pick on the noob's now :angry2:

 

[moki]

I cannot believe I've wasted the last 15 minutes of my life reading this ****...

I have to say I'm a bit disappointed in both Bill and Moki....it's one thing to disagree but this is a little over the top...

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I agree it's over the top, but I will not stand to let him try to trample over me as he has done so many others, calling me "selfish", telling me I'm a liar, insulting my integrity, and whipping out such classics as "spineless, selfish faggot" and "arrogant little attention grabber"... and then watch him try to back-peddle and spin it, DWF-style, to say he wasn't referring to me.

First he insults me directly, and maliciously, then he adds insult to injuring by pulling the scumbag DWF move of trying to deny he was referring to me. Give me a break.

I do not lightly get involved in flamewars and arguments. I'm a Taurus; slow to anger, steady, and patient (generally speaking). But as the saying about Taurus's goes, "Cross the bull, and get the horns".

Given the nature of Bill's looming Jihad against me, given the nature of the insults he's hurled my way, I thought long and hard about it, and decided enough was enough. I told him he did not have a fight with me; but you want it Bill, you got it. Congrats.

 

[cvmfour]

I cannot believe I've wasted the last 15 minutes of my life reading this ****...

I have to say I'm a bit disappointed in both Bill and Moki....it's one thing to disagree but this is a little over the top...

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That's the only reason I have posted in this. If I were considering joining the CP community (which I was only a short time ago), I would have have second thoughts if I read this thread (which is now 16 pages long) first. I would have missed out on a great sampler purchase (thanks bfreebern) and tons of new information.

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Well then you must have missed quite a few other unpleasant threads from day gone by here. You might fit in better at stogiechat or letstalkcigars Lot of "nice guys" with no clue who don't mind being taken advantage of.

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Clearly uncalled for Bill...He wanted resolution to the whole thing and you want to start in on him. Not needed at all

 

[AVB]

DAMNIT, this can't be over. I need 24 more posts to win plus I can make fun of CC for all time making 70+ posts in one day. Making fun of him for only doing 52 posts in one day isn't as much fun.

I guess he had to take a break and replace his keyboard. :whistling:

 

[CoventryCat86]

DAMNIT, this can't be over. I need 24 more posts to win plus I can make fun of CC for all time making 70+ posts in one day. Making fun of him for only doing 52 posts in one day isn't as much fun.

I guess he had to take a break and replace his keyboard. :whistling:

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I love ya AVB :love: so just for you, I'll try and find a bunch of threads to post in okay

 

[AVB]

Getting near 11, your prime posting time from now until 3. I'm sure you'll be posting all over the forum and I might have the contest locked up by the time I wake up tomorrow.

 

[CoventryCat86]

Getting near 11, your prime posting time from now until 3. I'm sure you'll be posting all over the forum and I might have the contest locked up by the time I wake up tomorrow.

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LMAO, you know me too well sir :laugh:

 

[SamClemmons]

Geez Andrew,
ya coulda said something in support of your friends that were getting a raw deal instead drinking the koolaid the big headed jackass smokin' smiley bozo was dishing up. You should have. You absolutely should have.

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I read your posts there (which I thought were right on the money), and I saw that you were banned... and then I saw you posting here, laughing that they needn't have banned you to keep you off of the forum. So it seemed pretty clear to me that you didn't care at all about the forum, or if you were banned.

I do fully support you guys for telling them about the thief in their midst, but I don't support escalating this into a pissing contest between the boards. As I hope my actions have demonstrated to you in the past, Neal, if you genuinely need help with something, I'm there.

In this case, I think you were just fine on your own, and me getting involved was pointless. You didn't care if you were banned or not; posting there defending you would have just inflamed the situation more, and lead to further flamewars.

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All I was saying was that a support from you could have headed off the ridiculousness that followed. Something like, "I know these guys from CP, they are not here to cause trouble" might have done the trick.
Being banned from there (my first ban anywhere) troubles me in that there was no reason for it. I mean, if they'd just waited I could have given them a reason! Anyway, The big headed smiley blowhard and his boot lickers can have his/their board and won't recieve prudent warnings in the future. Their loss. At least we know where to send the ripoff scum that show up here from time to time.
Stogiechat (choke).com they don't mind bad faith trades and welcome scumbags.

Andrew and Bill I too am disappointed. You aired dirty laundry without good reason and

You fight like girls.


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