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Eleuthardt!

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I prefer to stay out of flamewars, because I think for the most part, they are pointless. When you guys were roasting Barney, I said that he was a big boy, and could fight his own battles. That's my mentality; it doesn't mean I wouldn't go well out of my way to help him, it simply means that this schoolyard-mentality of picking sides and flinging feces is not my thing.

Well okay from now on, I'll let ya fight your own battles. I was proud to come to your side and roast Phil when he screwed you because I considered you a good friend and a victim of an injustice.

I'd prefer to still hold you in that regard but if you don't care then you don't care....
 
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WOW..... alot of people watching this topic
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Like I said before, it's better than what's on TV. Mmmmm, popcorn.
 
Let these two resolve it guys, unless you have a solution..............
 
Oh, and one more thing. Do not even think about continuing to give me crap for not reviewing the "dog toss" cigars. I specifically asked for disgusting cigars that no one would want, and I have not done anything nefarious with them. They are either in my closet, or they've been thrown out (I honestly don't know).

Do not even think about continuing to try to besmirch my character because I gave up on that (mostly silly) quest of smoking nasty cigars. I think I can safely say that I have given back to the majority of the people who provided me with those dog rockets, and then some.

So stop giving me $hit for not smoking all of those disgusting cigars that no one wanted; I'm sorry I did not complete the task, but it ended up being far more painful and uninteresting than I could possibly have imagined. I initially did it because I thought it would be entertaining to write stinging reviews of the crap-sticks people sent.

I find that you brought it up on someone else's pass thread (and then tried to reverse it on me, claiming I started the fight there) to be utterly classless. Amazing that you are trying the tactic (which you have accused others of) of laying bait, and then acting innocent when you're called on it.
 
SFG75 said:
Let these two resolve it guys, unless you have a solution..............
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The solution is to let bygones be bygones and, as Rod said, not let some jerk newbie come between them. I, for one, cannot believe that this thing with Eleuthardt has become such a flame war between two respected (at least by me) BOTLs. :(
 
mrjinglesusa said:
SFG75 said:
Let these two resolve it guys, unless you have a solution..............
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The solution is to let bygones be bygones and, as Rod said, not let some jerk newbie come between them. I, for one, cannot believe that this thing with Eleuthardt has become such a flame war between two respected (at least by me) BOTLs. :(
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Nothing wrong with joking around guy, it wasn't about you. I guess I don't want more folks taking sides and then......well, you know.
 
coventrycat86 said:
Well okay from now on, I'll let ya fight your own battles. I was proud to come to your side and roast Phil when he screwed you because I considered you a good friend and a victim of an injustice.

I'd prefer to still hold you in that regard but if you don't care then you don't care....
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Bill, screw you. Do not even try to draw a parallel between someone making off with hundreds of dollars worth of stuff, and being banned from a web board that:

a) You do not give a rat's ass about
b) Me "defending" you would have caused more trouble than anything else

*I* decided that you were a big boy, that you really didn't care if you were on that board or not, and that furthering the arguments there would be counter-productive. Deal with it.

If you're honestly implying that you think I would not come to someone's aid/defense if they were snookered to the magnitude that I was, I find that insulting. I have done so many times, in many ways, for many people here.

If you notice, I also did not *ask* for people to come to my aid regarding Phil, nor did I berate the people who did not defend me. I didn't slam various people on CP because they *didn't* rush to my defense; I just put the information out there.

Not only is the magnitude of the two events grossly different, but also my conduct is entirely different. If I had torn you a new asshole because you (or anyone else) didn't post in my defense there, then you might have some shred of credibility at drawing a parallel.

Sorry, but no, me defending your hurt feelings for being banned from a web board that you do not care about is clearly not on the same level.

You're squirming and turning like a worm; you lay baiting posts, and then cry foul when I call you on them. You then try to turn it around to me, saying that I started it, when you clearly laid the bait (something you love to accuse Barney of).

You slam me with personal insults, then back-peddle and channel DaveDWF saying "Well, how do you know that was directed at you" You call me selfish, when I have been extremely giving with my time, cigars, and other kinds of help to many people here.
 
SFG75 said:
mrjinglesusa said:
SFG75 said:
Let these two resolve it guys, unless you have a solution..............
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The solution is to let bygones be bygones and, as Rod said, not let some jerk newbie come between them. I, for one, cannot believe that this thing with Eleuthardt has become such a flame war between two respected (at least by me) BOTLs. :(
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Nothing wrong with joking around guy, it wasn't about you. I guess I don't want more folks taking sides and then......well, you know.
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I know it wasn't about me. And I'm not trying to take sides, I guess I would just like to see this resolved (although entertaining, it adds nothing to this forum). Flame-wars don't solve anything as has been made perfectly clear here. I know I haven't been here long but in the time I have been here this is the 1st all out flame-war I have seen. It's sad that it is between two respected BOTLs and not some newbies. I've seen people rag on those two other cigar boards here about all the flaming that goes on there. I thought this place was suppossed to be different. :thumbs: This started out as a warning thread and now the last 13 pages have been an all out war of words. :(
 
moki said:
Oh, and one more thing. Do not even think about continuing to give me crap for not reviewing the "dog toss" cigars. I specifically asked for disgusting cigars that no one would want, and I have not done anything nefarious with them. They are either in my closet, or they've been thrown out (I honestly don't know).

Do not even think about continuing to try to besmirch my character because I gave up on that (mostly silly) quest of smoking nasty cigars. I think I can safely say that I have given back to the majority of the people who provided me with those dog rockets, and then some.

So stop giving me $hit for not smoking all of those disgusting cigars that no one wanted; I'm sorry I did not complete the task, but it ended up being far more painful and uninteresting than I could possibly have imagined. I initially did it because I thought it would be entertaining to write stinging reviews of the crap-sticks people sent.

I find that you brought it up on someone else's pass thread (and then tried to reverse it on me, claiming I started the fight there) to be utterly classless. Amazing that you are trying the tactic (which you have accused others of) of laying bait, and then acting innocent when you're called on it.
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Again sorry moki, I was bustin' ya just a little and figured you'd be astute enough to take it in that light. ;) I honestly wasn't trying to lay any bait, I was just givin' ya a gentle jab which many of us do around here from time to time. I agree with you, I wouldn't want to smoke all those horrible cigars either ;) :D and believe me, I COMMEND you for not putting yourself through that kind of torture. :p :) :) :D

You cool on that one?
 
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I thought it would be entertaining to write stinging reviews of the crap-sticks people sent.

That would have been hilarious :laugh: 'cause you definitely do great reviews :laugh:
 
coventrycat86 said:
Ah I see we have a difference of opinion here. Your "explanation" as you put it was a slam which included the smart-assed comment about "the sauce" Ya think that REALLY wasn't smug, blunt, flaming or insulting?

You still have an arrogant tone with your most recent post with the "DaveWF'sing" crap so until you drop the attitude, it's gonna be tough to resolve anything here.....
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Yes, I think saying "lay off the sauce" was smart-assed, but also apropos, because I think you're running rampant with your accusations. I think my reply was actually more level-headed and less inflammatory than your original "calling out" comment.

As for my tone, what do you expect after calling me a "spineless, selfish faggot" and "arrogant little attention grabber"? What do you expect after calling me selfish? What do you expect after calling my integrity into question? What do you expect when you call me a liar?

Sorry, Bill, you reap what you sow. I did not start in with you; I'm sorry that I didn't do what you think I should have done in terms of "defending" you on SC. I decided it was counter-productive, and I wanted the matter resolved, not stirred up. I told you that you had no fight with me; you picked the fight. You drew first blood with your seriously insulting statements and accusations.

Deal with it. I'm not putting up with this bull**** from you.
 
You slam me with personal insults, then back-peddle and channel DaveDWF saying "Well, how do you know that was directed at you"

I never said "Well, how do you know that was directed at you", did I? If i'm wrong please quote the post.

And you certainlly trashed me with many more personal insults that I did to you.
 
moki said:
coventrycat86 said:
Ah I see we have a difference of opinion here. Your "explanation" as you put it was a slam which included the smart-assed comment about "the sauce" Ya think that REALLY wasn't smug, blunt, flaming or insulting?

You still have an arrogant tone with your most recent post with the "DaveWF'sing" crap so until you drop the attitude, it's gonna be tough to resolve anything here.....
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Yes, I think saying "lay off the sauce" was smart-assed, but also apropos, because I think you're running rampant with your accusations. I think my reply was actually more level-headed and less inflammatory than your original "calling out" comment.

As for my tone, what do you expect after calling me a "spineless, selfish faggot" and "arrogant little attention grabber"? What do you expect after calling me selfish? What do you expect after calling my integrity into question? What do you expect when you call me a liar?

Sorry, Bill, you reap what you sow. I did not start in with you; I'm sorry that I didn't do what you think I should have done in terms of "defending" you on SC. I decided it was counter-productive, and I wanted the matter resolved, not stirred up. I told you that you had no fight with me; you picked the fight. You drew first blood with your seriously insulting statements and accusations.

Deal with it. I'm not putting up with this bull**** from you.
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You moki are the one who need reading comprehension skills, For the second time I did not call YOU a spineless, selfish faggot" get off it will ya?

Your initial tone was certainlly much more $hitter than mine, go back and look.

You drew first blood with your seriously insulting statements and accusations.

That is just plain not true and you know it.
 
moki said:
coventrycat86 said:
Ah I see we have a difference of opinion here.  Your "explanation" as you put it was a slam which included the smart-assed comment about "the sauce" Ya think that REALLY wasn't smug, blunt, flaming or insulting?

You still have an arrogant tone with your most recent post with the "DaveWF'sing" crap so until you drop the attitude, it's gonna be tough to resolve anything here.....
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Yes, I think saying "lay off the sauce" was smart-assed, but also apropos, because I think you're running rampant with your accusations. I think my reply was actually more level-headed and less inflammatory than your original "calling out" comment.

As for my tone, what do you expect after calling me a "spineless, selfish faggot" and "arrogant little attention grabber"? What do you expect after calling me selfish? What do you expect after calling my integrity into question? What do you expect when you call me a liar?

Sorry, Bill, you reap what you sow. I did not start in with you; I'm sorry that I didn't do what you think I should have done in terms of "defending" you on SC. I decided it was counter-productive, and I wanted the matter resolved, not stirred up. I told you that you had no fight with me; you picked the fight. You drew first blood with your seriously insulting statements and accusations.

Deal with it. I'm not putting up with this bull**** from you.
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CC will now be known as Rambo !
 
coventrycat86 said:
You moki are the one who need reading comprehension skills, For the second time I did not call YOU a spineless, selfish faggot" get off it will ya?

Your initial tone was certainlly much more $hitter than mine, go back and look.

You drew first blood with your seriously insulting statements and accusations.

That is just plain not true and you know it.
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Okay, CountryCat_DWF. "That wasn't directed at you..." Give me a break, CC, it's friggin obvious:

http://www.cigarpass.com/forums/index.php?...ndpost&p=162092

coventrycat86 said:
How do you know if I care less about being banned for no good reason?  Did I tell you that via a PM or a phone call, did I post that or do you just plain know everything?

I do indeed care about being mistreated for no reason and would think that you would be kind and loyal enough to point that out to the stogiechat people.  The stogiechat tools mistreated just about everyone from here, you saw it yet said NOTHING.  I find this rather amazing especially since quite a few others here were sympathetic to your cause when you posted another one of your "LOOK AT ME" threads with all the bravado surrounding your lame "the phil certified letter poll"  many of us felt bad for you and supported you.  I now wished I had not, I mean after all I've got no beef with Phil, right?  This place is about all of us watching out for each other, not being spineless, selfish faggots who stick their hands in their pockets and say "Not my problem, doesn't concern me..........."

And what's with the "lay off the sauce CC" comment?  moki, you're an arrogant little attention grabber and you're well on your way to losing me as a friend if you keep up with your crap.
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You directly called me an "arrogant little attention grabber" and you also repeatedly stated that *I* was standing there with my hands in my pockets on the SC matter, and then said: "This place is about all of us watching out for each other, not being spineless, selfish faggots who stick their hands in their pockets and say "Not my problem, doesn't concern me...........""

I think it's pretty obvious, CC, and I find it amusing that you lambasted DaveDWF for using this tactic, and yet are restorting to using it yourself. You've insulted everything else: you called me a liar. You insulted my integrity. You directly called me selfish. I guess insulting my intelligence by attempting to claim this wasn't directed at me is not out of the question either.
 
coventrycat86 said:
And you certainlly trashed me with many more personal insults that I did to you.
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Yes, I did -- after you started in with me, picking a fight for no damn good reason, in an incredibly inconsiderate manner. BTW, I consider the insults I've leveled at you to be less serious in nature (just calling you a whiney bitch, essentially) than your questioning of my integrity and motivations.
 
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