Are you bombing for the right reason?

[badhangover]

Now I'm probably in the huge minority on this one but I usually specifically ask those that I bomb to not post a public acknowledgment that they received a "bomb" from me but that's just me.

I don't specifically request public silence from my recipients, but my personal feeling is that if I don't publically post my gift intention, then I would hope that the recipient would key in on that silence and keep it to ourselves. Just a PM thank you is more than sufficient. If it is publically known within a thread that the gift is being sent (e.g. "I've never had one of these" post responses, etc), then I think it is appropriate and polite to publically acknowledge the receipt of the gift - within that same thread. I am averse to having acknowledgements be turned into threads of their own right.

I rarely obtain confirmation tracking of cigar gift packages. They are not a debt owed and I have no interest in what happens to them once they leave my hands. If a recipient never acknowledges receipt of a package, I would never chase them down and point fingers at my confirmation receipt. I would never even bring it up. I'd just take personal note of it and let it be. But then, as I said, I rarely obtain tracking. Those are for box passes and trades, et al, wherein a sender has strong interest in confirming receipt of packages.

I never post "bomb" advisements. Unsolicited gifts are, to me, a personal matter. I wouldn't proclaim my unsolicited cigar gift in an open forum no more than I would yell out in church when I contribute to the passing basket. But to each their own. There are more important things in life I choose to decry than in how someone chooses to give unto others.

 

[Mrepp]

Did you know every time you post a DC# a kitten dies

 

[grateful1]

Why do I continue read and post here?

1. Fellowship. I have friends here, several that I consider close friends. Cigars are the common ground.
2. Information. I'm amazed pretty much daily by what I learn here. Not all of it is about cigars.
3. Entertainment. I enjoy watching the interaction. I like the personal dynamics, and occasionally, the drama.
4. Charity. You know, bombs.

Bombs. That's the real focus of this post. I'm concerned that newbies are perceiving that bombing is currency, a method to buy the stairway to respect. If this goes on long enough, it will be. In the purest sense, a bomb should never be about the sender. I'd bet most of you would be shocked at how many bombs there really are, because many of them go unreported - by design. Hey, not all passes are posted publicly either.

The test is simple. Ask yourself who the bomb is for - you or your target? Did you fulfill something your target had not yet experienced? Will your target will appreciate you beyond, "hey, free cigars!"? What were the best bombs I've gotten? The first one - from Doc nearly two years ago introducing me to Arturo Fuente. Another was a handful of my daily smokes, ones I'd have bought anyhow. The sender no longer cared for them but knew I did, so he just sent them to me.

I don't want acknowledgement for the bombs I send. I don't want to offer that acknowledgement is bad - far from it. The first few times for me, I felt a rush when I read the thanks. For many, its part of the payment for the act, and sometimes its the recipient that needs to offer acknowledgement. It still comes back to the question of why you bombed in the first place. Was it about you, or about your target? Are you bombing for the attention, to kiss up to someone, or perhaps to "buy the stairway"? If you're new here, and you see an opportunity to fulfill the wish of a long time member or just to do something nice, don't be afraid to bomb. If the bomb is about you, well, we all like free cigars.

OK - for those on page 10...here's the original post.

 

[Mrepp]

Why do I continue read and post here?

1. Fellowship. I have friends here, several that I consider close friends. Cigars are the common ground.
2. Information. I'm amazed pretty much daily by what I learn here. Not all of it is about cigars.
3. Entertainment. I enjoy watching the interaction. I like the personal dynamics, and occasionally, the drama.
4. Charity. You know, bombs.

Bombs. That's the real focus of this post. I'm concerned that newbies are perceiving that bombing is currency, a method to buy the stairway to respect. If this goes on long enough, it will be. In the purest sense, a bomb should never be about the sender. I'd bet most of you would be shocked at how many bombs there really are, because many of them go unreported - by design. Hey, not all passes are posted publicly either.

The test is simple. Ask yourself who the bomb is for - you or your target? Did you fulfill something your target had not yet experienced? Will your target will appreciate you beyond, "hey, free cigars!"? What were the best bombs I've gotten? The first one - from Doc nearly two years ago introducing me to Arturo Fuente. Another was a handful of my daily smokes, ones I'd have bought anyhow. The sender no longer cared for them but knew I did, so he just sent them to me.

I don't want acknowledgement for the bombs I send. I don't want to offer that acknowledgement is bad - far from it. The first few times for me, I felt a rush when I read the thanks. For many, its part of the payment for the act, and sometimes its the recipient that needs to offer acknowledgement. It still comes back to the question of why you bombed in the first place. Was it about you, or about your target? Are you bombing for the attention, to kiss up to someone, or perhaps to "buy the stairway"? If you're new here, and you see an opportunity to fulfill the wish of a long time member or just to do something nice, don't be afraid to bomb. If the bomb is about you, well, we all like free cigars.

OK - for those on page 10...here's the original post.

Hey, Hey, Hey, I'm doing my best to threadjack this sucker and you go and get us back on task... This is no good Gary.

 

[Satchmo]

I just make up DC #'s and post them so people think I send out bombs :thumbs:

 

[Mrepp]

I just make up DC #'s and post them so people think I send out bombs :thumbs:

Please think of the kittens.

 

[Satchmo]

Sorry, Mark. I guess I should. How do you fit them in the box? And is Priority Mail quick enough for delivery?

 

[Mrepp]

Sorry, Mark. I guess I should. How do you fit them in the box? And is Priority Mail quick enough for delivery?

If there's air holes yes, they'll just eat the weaker one so no need for food.

 

[AVB]

If there is anyone out there who thinks I bombed them for the wrong reason please either return the bomb or else send it to OpFTH. Also, please let me know that you have done this so I can put you on the DNB (Do not Bomb) list. If anyone else doesn't want to be bombed by me please let me know too so I can put you on the list.

That is all, carry on.

 

[Mrepp]

If there is anyone out there who thinks I bombed them for the wrong reason please either return the bomb or else send it to OpFTH. Also, please let me know that you have done this so I can put you on the DNB (Do not Bomb) list. If anyone else doesn't want to be bombed by me please let me know too so I can put you on the list.

That is all, carry on.

As long as no kittens are harmed in the process of your bombings I'm o.k with it ray.



And don't forget to save the puppies, remember every time you post carnage thread a puppy dies.

 

[AVB]

Good, I don't like dogs so I'll be posting up a storm.

And don't forget to save the puppies, remember every time you post carnage thread a puppy dies.

 

[Mrepp]

Couldn't you just club the seals instead?

Good, I don't like dogs so I'll be posting up a storm.

And don't forget to save the puppies, remember every time you post carnage thread a puppy dies.

 

[Blue Dragon]

I think this topic should be changed to "Is the person you are bombing worthy of your gratitude?"

I'm flipping the script on this discussion. While I think everyone is deserving of such a compassionate act as receiving a bomb, I don't think everyone can fulfill their role as a bomb recipient.

A while ago I bombed someone, and I found out they later sold the sticks. Don't get me wrong, it's their cigar, and they can do whatever they want with it, but the idea behind the bomb is to try to expand the enjoyment of cigars with other people. If you yourself don't enjoy the cigars received in a bomb, then please don't sell it, PAY IT FORWARD. :angry:

Not the first time it happened, (first time to me, and I'm still a bit upset), and will definitely happen again as long as people are still people. This is probably why I'm a bit wary about bombing fresh meat... this might also lead into the theory of inner circles, which I am not a part of but hey, they exist out there. I'd rather bomb someone I've met at least once to get a feel of how their character is.

For you who don't read as often as you should concerning how to not step on people's toes...

Cigar Exchange Protocol

Man, I completely disagree. I was in a similar situation. I bombed that bastard Tim ... tmj#### something ... twice and even sent him my 5 stick cigar caddy full of cigars. Now while I miss my 5 stick cigar caddy, I am still glad that I bombed him. Most importantly because although I am out a few cigars and a caddy, he is out from being able to continuously experience what a great place this is. And frankly, I'm really glad he is gone. If me bombing him added to his surplus of cigars and helped him to show his true colors, I'd do it again in a heartbeat.

The question for me is, why do I send out the cigars? Is it because I admire what the person posted? Sometimes. Is it because I want to help out a new guy? Sometimes. Is it to show my thanks in our friendship? Sometimes. Is it just for sheer entertainment? Sometimes. (thankfully everyone has been a good sport about it so far :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: ) Is it because I just want to brighten some guy/gal's day? Sometimes. Is it a retaliatory strike? Sometimes. Is it to say I'm sorry? Sometimes. The best bomb I have sent out yet was to a guy who I was pissed off at for almost a year from him "picking" on me as a Noobie. Once I sent it off, I finally could let it go. I did get a thanks from him, although I never expected it. And even better, now that I could let my stupid righteousness go, I could see what he said in a different light; today I even call him a good friend.

But once I send the cigars and they leave my hands, they are a gift. Just like if someone wants to smoke a cigar and I hand him/her one in person. I want to share with them my passion for cigars, and hopefully s/he will get some enjoyment out of it. I don't have strings attached to my gifts; once they are yours you can do with them what you will. But if I see you take a few puffs and toss it, or sell them, or basically not appreciate the gift, I just realize you don't share any shred of the same passion I have for cigars and will act accordingly in the future.

... and as to the "read more, post less" threadjack ... RTFM!!! Cigar Pass is the fucking manual, so read it!

Cheers!
- C

 

[NullSmurf]

Goddamn DENSE Marines!

This was never about the recipients. Worst case, its free cigars. Its about the senders. I went back and read a sampling of your bomb threads. I didn't find one example of you being a selfish shit who just needed to get cigars out of the house. Post and a bomb whore, maybe. However, anyone who thinks you're trying to buy the stairway hasn't been here long and is likely insignificant anyhow.

If there is anyone out there who thinks I bombed them for the wrong reason please either return the bomb or else send it to OpFTH. Also, please let me know that you have done this so I can put you on the DNB (Do not Bomb) list. If anyone else doesn't want to be bombed by me please let me know too so I can put you on the list.

That is all, carry on.

 

[dk_ace]

(Cue the music)

This is the thread that never ends, it just goes on and on and on..... This is the thread that never ends, it just goes on and on and on..... This is the thread that never ends, it just goes on and on and on..... This is the thread that never ends, it just goes on and on and on..... This is the thread that never ends, it just goes on and on and on..... This is the thread that never ends, it just goes on and on and on..... This is the thread that never ends, it just goes on and on and on..... This is the thread that never ends, it just goes on and on and on..... This is the thread that never ends, it just goes on and on and on..... This is the thread that never ends, it just goes on and on and on..... This is the thread that never ends, it just goes on and on and on..... This is the thread that never ends, it just goes on and on and on..... This is the thread that never ends, it just goes on and on and on..... This is the thread that never ends, it just goes on and on and on..... This is the thread that never ends, it just goes on and on and on..... This is the thread that never ends, it just goes on and on and on..... This is the thread that never ends, it just goes on and on and on.....

D

 

[Devil Doc]

The End

Doc.

 

[CigarStone]

If there is anyone out there who thinks I bombed them for the wrong reason please either return the bomb or else send it to OpFTH. Also, please let me know that you have done this so I can put you on the DNB (Do not Bomb) list. If anyone else doesn't want to be bombed by me please let me know too so I can put you on the list.

That is all, carry on.

Ray:

I am not sure how I feel about this......maybe you could send me some more nice sticks so I can figure it out!

 

[bfreebern]

The End

Doc.

Love that song.

Used to bounce back in the day, in college, and at closing time we'd always play this song.

 

[Devil Doc]

A bouncer with a tiara? I'll bet you stopped a lot of fights.

Doc.

 

[grateful1]

Funny you should mention that....

This morning I asked a co-worker: 'When gifting something, is it about the sender or recipient?"

We had an interesting conversation.

<it's>

...........



You don't have to go home....but you can't stay here!

The end!

Goddamn DENSE Marines!

This was never about the recipients. Worst case, its free cigars. Its about the senders. I went back and read a sampling of your bomb threads. I didn't find one example of you being a selfish shit who just needed to get cigars out of the house. Post and a bomb whore, maybe. However, anyone who thinks you're trying to buy the stairway hasn't been here long and is likely insignificant anyhow.

If there is anyone out there who thinks I bombed them for the wrong reason please either return the bomb or else send it to OpFTH. Also, please let me know that you have done this so I can put you on the DNB (Do not Bomb) list. If anyone else doesn't want to be bombed by me please let me know too so I can put you on the list.

That is all, carry on.