Then maybe this should be changed to read: unless you are asking for 3 times more MSRP than the cigar you gifted...
I don't think such a rule is necessary. I just ask that players use discretion. Never played before? Then maybe it's not so cool to ask for the stars even though it's not prohibited. Played a few times and taken good care of your wishers? Then you've built up a little goodwill that gets you a bit more play. Little is absolute. Much is relative. Wisdom in the face of blind rules is the difference between the just and the unjust.
I don't think someone with any sort of tenure here would have made such a request in the first place. And for some reason you boys with newer join dates and lower post counts as you say, have been coming in quite frequently taking in arguments that YOU have no business speaking up in either! You talk about it not being Andy's business to jump in this conversation, well, you haven't earned the right to do so either.
Brian, it is not always about whether someone has earned the creds to allow them to comment or ask a question. Frequently it is about the manner of the asking. Jayro could have been polite. He could have asked in a humble manner as we all can choose to do. He did not. He could have
asked for clarification instead of
telling someone to butt the hell out. Maybe he and other newbies to follow will take
that lesson to heart.
If a new member has provided some indication that he is thoughtful, intelligent, and can behave like a grown up would in meat space, then I don't want him to wait 6 months or have posted hundreds of times before he can contribute to the maintenance and growth of this community. It's not about newbies knowing their place. That's often a smokescreen and an excuse for a host of deplorable behavior on both sides of the "FOG" fence. Failure on the part of newcomers may disappoint me, but disgraceful behavior on the other side fills me with shame instead of pride when the "FOG" label is bandied my way. That being the case, nothing will stop me from acting in accordance with my conscience and my conscience directs me to behave in the most respectable, constructive, and supportive fashion that I can muster.
Plus why would you want to do anything in poor form towards any of your BOTL around here. Plain and simple.
Yes you can but why would you??
Thank you for saying this. A thousand times, thank you. It perfectly captures what is at the heart of this pass, CigarPass, and every healthy community. New guys, read LtL's post. Then read it again. And then live by it. There's
nothing else you need know about how to become a positive, respected, valuable contributor to this place.
Nate, I'm sorry that you got caught up in all this. It blew up way beyond the boundaries of your minor transgression. I do hope that now you're back on CP, you'll come back and take another shot.
Wilkey
I'm not beating myself up over it, just got excited and ahead of myself. Thanks for putting this PIF on and I'm looking to hopping back in it when I get a chance.
