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The CP Make-a-Wish PIF Thread

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For my wish, i'd like to defer it to the most generous BOTL in this thread, Jonesy, him giving up a Opus OR is incredible.
 
stepthirteen said:
mmburtch said:
I have a couple of thoughts about this MAWPIF, some of the pitfalls it has encountered and how it could continue on as a fun and interesting event. These are my opinions and unless I name you, I'm talking in generalities and not about any one person or people.

I took care of someone I can respect and wouldn't mind helping out, and asked for things that only a certain fraction of the membership could provide. Frankly, I was thinking of Mike when I asked for them. Not right not wrong, but I have built relationships with people on this board that might have those things, and more to the point might give them to me. We all "think" Moki has maduro Opies, but realistically, how many of us think he would give them to us. I would bet the people that answered that he would, call him Andrew, and know his wife's name, his dog's name and maybe even his favorite color.

It seems to me that many people are looking at the thread as a way to realize their pipe dreams. I think if it was simply played as a chance to get that cigar you have heard great things about but can't find locally, or as a single, it would work out fine. There are people like Grateful1 that can ask for a 858 Rosado, and based on their connections and friendships get one. But the guy that has been here for a couple three months and has done nothing or very little to create relationships just looks like a mooch asking for the same thing. It’s that fine line between what you want, and what you've earned. If it's crossed too many times it will cause the downfall of this.

If after reading the last paragraph, you hear yourself saying, "But some guy with only a few months asked for an OR Opus and got it." You might want to go back and take a look at what Greg has been doing here for the last couple of months. Besides, Brian is a generous guy, but even he isn't going to give his prize cigars to any old Moe that asks. Both of those guys should be feeling pretty good about what their actions said about them.

I don't have any of the cigars that Gary is looking for. That being said, I don't mind waiting a day or two for somebody to decide they want to see Gary weep, or for him to lower his wishes back to the level of the common man. From what I've seen of Gary, it wouldn't surprise me to see him revise his wish to something that 90% of the member base could fulfill.

Sorry for the Wilkey like post :rolleyes:
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I completely respect this post and the principals contained in it. For that reason I will read it from time to time to help me to remember what this board stands for. I have to say for the record I am saddened that some of the longtime members take offense when someone with less than a 1000 posts speaks their mind about something, right, wrong, or indifferent It seems to me that some should try to teach the other members about things before they are abrasive. Just my .02. I am happy to be a member of this board and I know that I contribute to the good nature here and for me that is all that matters.

Step
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Great post Matt! :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:


You say in your post that "some should teach the other members about things before they are abrasive", but almost every reply to you was trying to nudge you along and help. But looking at most of your replies, all I see is "look at what I've done in my 2 months here" or getting Snarky with some of the established members.

Then as always, theres the inevitable newbie dog pile, usually consisting of members with 3 months or less grumbling about how theres always a few who try and ruin things. Oh really? There are plenty of examples of why established members do that. If people would take the time to read a little more, then the light bulb would click on.

If you look at Wilkey's request, what was the 1st stick he wished for? An OR Opus, Anejo or ISOM for the 70's? Nope, a Holt's Old Henry! And did you see Rob (bobbyritz) give up his spot, and where he didn't say I know that I contribute to the good nature here and for me that is all that matters. That is the true spirit of a PIF. Give more than you get. It's a PIF, not a WID (what I deserve)

I've been here a little over 2 years now, and I still don't have the balls to ask for a OR anything. IMO, I don't feel that I've earned it just yet.


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I love this thread. It is one of the best ideas in the history of good ideas.

Soon, I hope, I will be able to help someone out and grant their wish, any one that knows me, knows that except for a very few cigars I do not have anything in my humi that I would not pass on to a fellow BOTL.

I look forward to being able to help a dream come true.

Tim
 
I have to admit, after thinking about it, I began to feel pretty bad about taking such a prized stick from Brian. I'm quite the newbie and to ask for such a thing and receive it is a bit overwhelming. I asked Brian not to send it, instead maybe send an aged ISOM, however he had already put it in the mail (the dude is fast!). Not only did he already send the OR, but said he would also send me an aged ISOM as well. Now, talk about overwhelming? All I can say is that I will continue to contribute to the best of my ability here and hope to re-pay the absolute hands down kindnes and generosity that Brian, and many others, have shown me. Regardless of the clashes that may pop up from time to time...

...this is by far the most awesome place!!

Thank you.

G
 
Greg, you will get the chance to PIF for another BOTL, that's what this place is about, not that i'm telling you something you don't already know...
 
Mr_Wolf said:
stepthirteen said:
mmburtch said:
I have a couple of thoughts about this MAWPIF, some of the pitfalls it has encountered and how it could continue on as a fun and interesting event. These are my opinions and unless I name you, I'm talking in generalities and not about any one person or people.

I took care of someone I can respect and wouldn't mind helping out, and asked for things that only a certain fraction of the membership could provide. Frankly, I was thinking of Mike when I asked for them. Not right not wrong, but I have built relationships with people on this board that might have those things, and more to the point might give them to me. We all "think" Moki has maduro Opies, but realistically, how many of us think he would give them to us. I would bet the people that answered that he would, call him Andrew, and know his wife's name, his dog's name and maybe even his favorite color.

It seems to me that many people are looking at the thread as a way to realize their pipe dreams. I think if it was simply played as a chance to get that cigar you have heard great things about but can't find locally, or as a single, it would work out fine. There are people like Grateful1 that can ask for a 858 Rosado, and based on their connections and friendships get one. But the guy that has been here for a couple three months and has done nothing or very little to create relationships just looks like a mooch asking for the same thing. It’s that fine line between what you want, and what you've earned. If it's crossed too many times it will cause the downfall of this.

If after reading the last paragraph, you hear yourself saying, "But some guy with only a few months asked for an OR Opus and got it." You might want to go back and take a look at what Greg has been doing here for the last couple of months. Besides, Brian is a generous guy, but even he isn't going to give his prize cigars to any old Moe that asks. Both of those guys should be feeling pretty good about what their actions said about them.

I don't have any of the cigars that Gary is looking for. That being said, I don't mind waiting a day or two for somebody to decide they want to see Gary weep, or for him to lower his wishes back to the level of the common man. From what I've seen of Gary, it wouldn't surprise me to see him revise his wish to something that 90% of the member base could fulfill.

Sorry for the Wilkey like post :rolleyes:
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I completely respect this post and the principals contained in it. For that reason I will read it from time to time to help me to remember what this board stands for. I have to say for the record I am saddened that some of the longtime members take offense when someone with less than a 1000 posts speaks their mind about something, right, wrong, or indifferent It seems to me that some should try to teach the other members about things before they are abrasive. Just my .02. I am happy to be a member of this board and I know that I contribute to the good nature here and for me that is all that matters.

Step
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Great post Matt! :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:


You say in your post that "some should teach the other members about things before they are abrasive", but almost every reply to you was trying to nudge you along and help. But looking at most of your replies, all I see is "look at what I've done in my 2 months here" or getting Snarky with some of the established members.

Then as always, theres the inevitable newbie dog pile, usually consisting of members with 3 months or less grumbling about how theres always a few who try and ruin things. Oh really? There are plenty of examples of why established members do that. If people would take the time to read a little more, then the light bulb would click on.

If you look at Wilkey's request, what was the 1st stick he wished for? An OR Opus, Anejo or ISOM for the 70's? Nope, a Holt's Old Henry! And did you see Rob (bobbyritz) give up his spot, and where he didn't say I know that I contribute to the good nature here and for me that is all that matters. That is the true spirit of a PIF. Give more than you get. It's a PIF, not a WID (what I deserve)

I've been here a little over 2 years now, and I still don't have the balls to ask for a OR anything. IMO, I don't feel that I've earned it just yet.


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I am slowly internalizing the info, sometimes I am a bit slow, but I think I am getting it. I will kick the humility up a bit and just be a member who has fun! Thanks for the observations. I must say that it is very difficult to convey my true meaning via posts, I know that it may always seem that I am trying to seek credit, but really what I am referencing is actively participating in the board not gimme, gimme, gimme. Again I am learning, thank you!!

Step
 
mmburtch said:
Frankly, I was thinking of Mike when I asked for them. Not right not wrong, but I have built relationships with people on this board that might have those things, and more to the point might give them to me.
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God, I feel so USED!!! You didn't even call me the next day :angry:

Great posts Matt and Wilkey. I think we can get this things back on track now. Also, very classy moves by Frank and Rob passing their wishes on.....that's what makes this so great and fun!
 
Mike33 said:
mmburtch said:
Frankly, I was thinking of Mike when I asked for them. Not right not wrong, but I have built relationships with people on this board that might have those things, and more to the point might give them to me.
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God, I feel so USED!!! You didn't even call me the next day :angry:
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You write your number in disappearing ink on the inside of a matchbook, and then you have the gall to claim I never called? :sign:
 
stepthirteen said:
I am slowly internalizing the info, sometimes I am a bit slow, but I think I am getting it. I will kick the humility up a bit and just be a member who has fun! Thanks for the observations. I must say that it is very difficult to convey my true meaning via posts, I know that it may always seem that I am trying to seek credit, but really what I am referencing is actively participating in the board not gimme, gimme, gimme. Again I am learning, thank you!!

Step
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Jim,

As you know I'll be up in your neck of the woods at the end of March and I look forward to having a few drinks and smokes with you and the locals then.

I can't say I've ever met a man over cigars and booze that I didn't come away understanding or appreciating just a little better. When lovers of the leaf meet with open mind, so much of this internet e-crap just falls by the wayside and people suddenly seem to grow up.

Best,
Wilkey

PS. Was that sufficiently un-Wilkey-like for you Matt, you bastige? :sign:
 
Thanks Wilkey! I look forward to our meeting. Just had a PM conversation with Tom and I have the details. Again thanks. I have yet to smoke all 5 sticks you sent me, but I believe that I have not identified the fake as of yet so I am confident that I have it narrowed down. Again thanks.

Jim
 
Ginseng said:
I can't say I've ever met a man over cigars and booze that I didn't come away understanding or appreciating just a little better. When lovers of the leaf meet with open mind, so much of this internet e-crap just falls by the wayside and people suddenly seem to grow up.
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Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
 
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