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SPRING FEVER PASS (April pass)

garrettbuckeye said:
Alright guys... here are my projected puts/takes for review. Let me know how they look.

Takes:

4) Arturo Fuente Don Carlos Double Robusto
8) Arturo Fuente Hemingway Classic Single
13) C.A.O. Brazilia

Puts:

69) Padrón 1964 Anniversary Exclusivo Maduro
70) Ashton VSG Belicoso No. 1
71) Rocky Patel Vintage 1990 Robusto
72) ???
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Unfortunately #72 doesn't exist yet. It found its way into a certain box and it need not be numbered. Cheers!
 
okay guys...

I came home to a rather large package today. FOGs would crap their diapers with this kind of firepower... so I was pretty sure it wasn't a bomb of any sort. So I opened 'er up, counted, drooled, did some paperwork, drooled some more, and packaged 'er all back up. Then I PM'd Jeff and made sure he was ready. I'm surprised he didn't drive to Columbus this morning (knowing how excited he's been). Anyways, long story short...

Coming at ya Stone!

DC 0306 2400 0002 8743 6401

Thanks for the pass and enjoy everybody!

-Lee
 
garrettbuckeye said:
okay guys...

I came home to a rather large package today. FOGs would crap their diapers with this kind of firepower... so I was pretty sure it wasn't a bomb of any sort. So I opened 'er up, counted, drooled, did some paperwork, drooled some more, and packaged 'er all back up. Then I PM'd Jeff and made sure he was ready. I'm surprised he didn't drive to Columbus this morning (knowing how excited he's been). Anyways, long story short...

Coming at ya Stone!

DC 0306 2400 0002 8743 6401

Thanks for the pass and enjoy everybody!

-Lee
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Lee with all thats going on in your world, TWO thumbs up on the turn around and the P/T. Very nicely done my brother.

Jay
 
Jay:

We established that ISOM's are not right for this pass.

How about GSWOA's?

That's Gas Station West Of Akron :D
 
If you haven't tried 'em yet... you need to get your hands on some!

(the twitch becomes unnoticable after a few days, but the taste stays with you much longer!)
 
Okay here is what I am thinking


Take Don Carlos Double Robusto $8.75 (Top 25)
Take Don Carlos Belicoso $9.00 (Tower Cigar)
Take Between The Lines $12.00 (Top 25)

Put Don Carlos #2 $11.00 (Top 25)
Put Tatuaje Reserva J21 $11.00 (Tower Cigar)
Put Padilla Edition Especial Achilles Toro $10.00 (Top 25)


I am a little unsure about the BTL due to rarity so let me know your thoughts, there are plenty more I would be happy to take instead.

Jeff
 
I see you taking a (rare) $12 cigar and only putting in things that are worth less than that... that's not going to work. Back to the drawing board. :)
 
Blue Dragon said:
tomthirtysix said:
All right... with the pass expected to hit within the next day or two, I'll get my P/T up for approval.

Takes:
3. WOAM
5. VSG Tres Mystique
17. Padron 1926 - No. 35
32. PAM Imperial

Puts:
34. La Aurora Preferido Cameroon Robusto
35. Fuente Don Carlos #3 from the "30 Year Celebration 1975-2005 Collection" seen here.
36. Macanudo Vintage 1997 III
37. Graycliff Professionale PGX
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So, I thought that I would take this opportunity to explain what I go through when I check P's and T's; it is the same thing I do when I am checking to see if what I am putting into a pass is comparable to what I plan on taking. This is not a personal attack; I am just trying to explain where I am coming from and hopefully add some useful information for current and future pass participants. :thumbs:

First, since this is a 1 for 1 pass, I really need to know which cigars you are trading for which cigars in the pass. I can conjecture that you are proposing P's/T's in the order listed, but it is best to be clear. And I tried to do a little juggling to see if they would all match up, but was unsuccessful.

I typically take several online sites and compare prices to come up with an average to gauge a cigar's value by. The sites I used are listed below in my example. I always look at the box price and divide by the number of cigars in the box if it is available. I also look at the cigar's rarity, which is more difficult to gauge, but should be considered. Here is what I came up with for your P's and T's:

Cigar Websites Used for Reference
a) PipesAndCigars.com
b) AtlanticCigar.com
c) CigarsInternational.com
d) RegencyCigars.com
e) Holts.com
f) CigarPass MSRP references

Proposed P's and T's
Takes:
3. WOAM
5. VSG Tres Mystique
17. Padron 1926 - No. 35
32. PAM Imperial

Puts:
34. La Aurora Preferido Cameroon Robusto
35. Fuente Don Carlos #3 from the "30 Year Celebration
1975-2005 Collection" seen here.
36. Macanudo Vintage 1997 III
37. Graycliff Professionale PGX

Averages from Websites
3= a)X b)X c)X d)X e)$7.36+ f)$7.35+ : $7.35 rare
5= a)$7.50 b)$10.53 c)X d)$8 e)$8 f)$7.50 : $8.30
17= a)$13 b)$10 c)X d)$10 e)X f)$10 : $10.75
32= a)$17 b)$14 c)X d)$14 e)X f)$14 : $14.75

34= a)$8 b)$6 c)$12 d)X e)$7 f)X : $8.25
35= a)$7+ b)$6.12+ c)$6.96+ d)$7.76+ e)$7.76+ f)$7.75+ : $7.23 very rare
36= a)$7 b)X c)$6.25 d)X e)$6.85 f)X : $6.70
37= a)$14.40 b)$10.80 c)$13.40 d)X e)X f)X : $12.87

Then I look to see if they are close in price and rarity. If a cigar is rare, it is usually valued more than what is listed as the typical price. For instance, the Don Carlos #3 from the anniversary collection is valued more than what a regular Don Carlos #3.

So, you should be able to see where I think your P's and T's could use a little work. LMK what you think and how you would like to proceed, or if you have any questions.

Thanks,
- C
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Try This
 
enerjay said:
Blue Dragon said:
tomthirtysix said:
All right... with the pass expected to hit within the next day or two, I'll get my P/T up for approval.

Takes:
3. WOAM
5. VSG Tres Mystique
17. Padron 1926 - No. 35
32. PAM Imperial

Puts:
34. La Aurora Preferido Cameroon Robusto
35. Fuente Don Carlos #3 from the "30 Year Celebration 1975-2005 Collection" seen here.
36. Macanudo Vintage 1997 III
37. Graycliff Professionale PGX
Click to expand...

So, I thought that I would take this opportunity to explain what I go through when I check P's and T's; it is the same thing I do when I am checking to see if what I am putting into a pass is comparable to what I plan on taking. This is not a personal attack; I am just trying to explain where I am coming from and hopefully add some useful information for current and future pass participants. :thumbs:

First, since this is a 1 for 1 pass, I really need to know which cigars you are trading for which cigars in the pass. I can conjecture that you are proposing P's/T's in the order listed, but it is best to be clear. And I tried to do a little juggling to see if they would all match up, but was unsuccessful.

I typically take several online sites and compare prices to come up with an average to gauge a cigar's value by. The sites I used are listed below in my example. I always look at the box price and divide by the number of cigars in the box if it is available. I also look at the cigar's rarity, which is more difficult to gauge, but should be considered. Here is what I came up with for your P's and T's:

Cigar Websites Used for Reference
a) PipesAndCigars.com
b) AtlanticCigar.com
c) CigarsInternational.com
d) RegencyCigars.com
e) Holts.com
f) CigarPass MSRP references

Proposed P's and T's
Takes:
3. WOAM
5. VSG Tres Mystique
17. Padron 1926 - No. 35
32. PAM Imperial

Puts:
34. La Aurora Preferido Cameroon Robusto
35. Fuente Don Carlos #3 from the "30 Year Celebration
1975-2005 Collection" seen here.
36. Macanudo Vintage 1997 III
37. Graycliff Professionale PGX

Averages from Websites
3= a)X b)X c)X d)X e)$7.36+ f)$7.35+ : $7.35 rare
5= a)$7.50 b)$10.53 c)X d)$8 e)$8 f)$7.50 : $8.30
17= a)$13 b)$10 c)X d)$10 e)X f)$10 : $10.75
32= a)$17 b)$14 c)X d)$14 e)X f)$14 : $14.75

34= a)$8 b)$6 c)$12 d)X e)$7 f)X : $8.25
35= a)$7+ b)$6.12+ c)$6.96+ d)$7.76+ e)$7.76+ f)$7.75+ : $7.23 very rare
36= a)$7 b)X c)$6.25 d)X e)$6.85 f)X : $6.70
37= a)$14.40 b)$10.80 c)$13.40 d)X e)X f)X : $12.87

Then I look to see if they are close in price and rarity. If a cigar is rare, it is usually valued more than what is listed as the typical price. For instance, the Don Carlos #3 from the anniversary collection is valued more than what a regular Don Carlos #3.

So, you should be able to see where I think your P's and T's could use a little work. LMK what you think and how you would like to proceed, or if you have any questions.

Thanks,
- C
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Try This
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I'll do that tonight, thanks.
 
Just curious are the ISOMS locked, or can we trade an ISOM for ISOM, or Premium for ISOM....just curious , trying to get a jump on my possibilities!

THX, LOYD
 
Loyd at this point I would still prefer that there is no trading of the ISMO's.

It would be un-fair to the guys who have all ready had the pass.

Thanks Jay
 
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Where is Michigain anyways? It's not that d@mn state up north, is it!?!? :angry:



Grammar school in the UP maybe? :laugh:

Just kidding bud! Play on...
 
Pass has arrived safe and sound, I am officially drooling About to educate myself a bit by doing the required research on T's & P's. Might be able to get it out tomorrow, Monday for sure.

This is my first pass but I have to believe it ranks up there for quality and organization.....thanks Jay, hojadepuro, ggiese and emodx!

Martin2D/Jimihendrix are you ready? PM sent
 
After doing a considerable amount of research I have a question that involves rarity that I can not judge.

The take.....Between The Lines listed at $12.00 and $13.25 respectively at Top 25 and on CP Reference. I know this cigar is rare but I don't know how to determine it's rarity compared to others.


The Put......Tatuaje Cojonu 2003 Listed at $13.00 and $13.00 respectively at Top 25 and CP reference. I am not real familiar with Tats so I don't know the rarity.

Thoughts?

Thanks
Jeff
 
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