If this is too far off then maybe I can change it. Or.......we can go with Sids suggestion. Whatever the group is more comfortable with.Charley said:
If this is too far off then maybe I can change it. Or.......we can go with Sids suggestion. Whatever the group is more comfortable with.Tall Paul said:
ironpeddler said:My take on it...
The whole concept of a Pass is 'equal for equal' but different. We just can't bomb the crap out of the Pass and in turn make some cigars unapproachable to those down stream. This by far the #1 edict to a cigar pass and we should not break this basic covenant of fairness. While I appreciate the comments of CigSid, those sentiments are better left to an individual bomb to a fellow B/SOTL...and God knows he knows bombing!
We need...no, MUST...keep the basic rules of a cigar pass in effect at all times and not try to deviate from these most simple principles. As in parenting, it's so easy to say YES...and very difficult to say NO. Saying NO means more work...but isn't this what a Cigar Pass is all about? Pricing out sticks, learning their values based on availability, and trying to set a baseline of rarity factors?
In most cigar passes, the debate is usually about how much of a gap in pricing is allowed between P&Ts. Brian (Jonesy) would run newbie passes and would insist on no more than a $0.25 to $0.50 maximum difference between P&Ts. Now think about it, if everyone increased their PUT by $0,50 per cigar...12 guys down stream that cigar would cost a brother $6.00 more to replace....so a $5.00 cigar is now an $11.00 cigar. So, based on the opening lineup (values) of cigars that originally enticed a member to join the Pass in the first place, is no longer the case when it finally arrives at his house.
Remember, every cigar has to be priced out to at least 3 online vendors to establish it's average price. This is a somewhat easier task with NC cigars. The issue with CC is that you have the full blown retail vendors and the tax free zone vendors...and the guys in between. Here in lies the game...what handful of vendors should be used to create the average price per cigar? Maybe that's a call for the Pass Host to make.
While this is Paul's Pass, it's his to do as he pleases...but remember, like in Life itself...there are some basic rules to be followed. :thumbs:
YMMV...
If this is too far off then maybe I can change it. Or.......we can go with Sids suggestion. Whatever the group is more comfortable with.Charley said:
whylieineedacigar said:
My take on it...
The whole concept of a Pass is 'equal for equal' but different. We just can't bomb the crap out of the Pass and in turn make some cigars unapproachable to those down stream. This by far the #1 edict to a cigar pass and we should not break this basic covenant of fairness. While I appreciate the comments of CigSid, those sentiments are better left to an individual bomb to a fellow B/SOTL...and God knows he knows bombing!
We need...no, MUST...keep the basic rules of a cigar pass in effect at all times and not try to deviate from these most simple principles. As in parenting, it's so easy to say YES...and very difficult to say NO. Saying NO means more work...but isn't this what a Cigar Pass is all about? Pricing out sticks, learning their values based on availability, and trying to set a baseline of rarity factors?
In most cigar passes, the debate is usually about how much of a gap in pricing is allowed between P&Ts. Brian (Jonesy) would run newbie passes and would insist on no more than a $0.25 to $0.50 maximum difference between P&Ts. Now think about it, if everyone increased their PUT by $0,50 per cigar...12 guys down stream that cigar would cost a brother $6.00 more to replace....so a $5.00 cigar is now an $11.00 cigar. So, based on the opening lineup (values) of cigars that originally enticed a member to join the Pass in the first place, is no longer the case when it finally arrives at his house.
Remember, every cigar has to be priced out to at least 3 online vendors to establish it's average price. This is a somewhat easier task with NC cigars. The issue with CC is that you have the full blown retail vendors and the tax free zone vendors...and the guys in between. Here in lies the game...what handful of vendors should be used to create the average price per cigar? Maybe that's a call for the Pass Host to make.
While this is Paul's Pass, it's his to do as he pleases...but remember, like in Life itself...there are some basic rules to be followed. :thumbs:
YMMV...
That's a great idea.
Tall Paul said:
My take on it...
The whole concept of a Pass is 'equal for equal' but different. We just can't bomb the crap out of the Pass and in turn make some cigars unapproachable to those down stream. This by far the #1 edict to a cigar pass and we should not break this basic covenant of fairness. While I appreciate the comments of CigSid, those sentiments are better left to an individual bomb to a fellow B/SOTL...and God knows he knows bombing!
We need...no, MUST...keep the basic rules of a cigar pass in effect at all times and not try to deviate from these most simple principles. As in parenting, it's so easy to say YES...and very difficult to say NO. Saying NO means more work...but isn't this what a Cigar Pass is all about? Pricing out sticks, learning their values based on availability, and trying to set a baseline of rarity factors?
In most cigar passes, the debate is usually about how much of a gap in pricing is allowed between P&Ts. Brian (Jonesy) would run newbie passes and would insist on no more than a $0.25 to $0.50 maximum difference between P&Ts. Now think about it, if everyone increased their PUT by $0,50 per cigar...12 guys down stream that cigar would cost a brother $6.00 more to replace....so a $5.00 cigar is now an $11.00 cigar. So, based on the opening lineup (values) of cigars that originally enticed a member to join the Pass in the first place, is no longer the case when it finally arrives at his house.
Remember, every cigar has to be priced out to at least 3 online vendors to establish it's average price. This is a somewhat easier task with NC cigars. The issue with CC is that you have the full blown retail vendors and the tax free zone vendors...and the guys in between. Here in lies the game...what handful of vendors should be used to create the average price per cigar? Maybe that's a call for the Pass Host to make.
While this is Paul's Pass, it's his to do as he pleases...but remember, like in Life itself...there are some basic rules to be followed. :thumbs:
YMMV...
That's a great idea.
Brickhouse said:
My take on it...
The whole concept of a Pass is 'equal for equal' but different. We just can't bomb the crap out of the Pass and in turn make some cigars unapproachable to those down stream. This by far the #1 edict to a cigar pass and we should not break this basic covenant of fairness. While I appreciate the comments of CigSid, those sentiments are better left to an individual bomb to a fellow B/SOTL...and God knows he knows bombing!
We need...no, MUST...keep the basic rules of a cigar pass in effect at all times and not try to deviate from these most simple principles. As in parenting, it's so easy to say YES...and very difficult to say NO. Saying NO means more work...but isn't this what a Cigar Pass is all about? Pricing out sticks, learning their values based on availability, and trying to set a baseline of rarity factors?
In most cigar passes, the debate is usually about how much of a gap in pricing is allowed between P&Ts. Brian (Jonesy) would run newbie passes and would insist on no more than a $0.25 to $0.50 maximum difference between P&Ts. Now think about it, if everyone increased their PUT by $0,50 per cigar...12 guys down stream that cigar would cost a brother $6.00 more to replace....so a $5.00 cigar is now an $11.00 cigar. So, based on the opening lineup (values) of cigars that originally enticed a member to join the Pass in the first place, is no longer the case when it finally arrives at his house.
Remember, every cigar has to be priced out to at least 3 online vendors to establish it's average price. This is a somewhat easier task with NC cigars. The issue with CC is that you have the full blown retail vendors and the tax free zone vendors...and the guys in between. Here in lies the game...what handful of vendors should be used to create the average price per cigar? Maybe that's a call for the Pass Host to make.
While this is Paul's Pass, it's his to do as he pleases...but remember, like in Life itself...there are some basic rules to be followed. :thumbs:
YMMV...
That's a great idea.
Brickhouse said:
Charley said:
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