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Here is the e-mail I just them.



Hello,

I am a member of Cigar Pass, a cigar forumn community that you recently suspended from your services. It has been passed on that you did so because:

"Promoting the "bombing" of people with "Fecal" matter and other questionable practices is a liability for our company."

The above quote, reportedly from an e-mail from your company. I must admit some form of amusement how you could ever think that is what we were tradining in comparrison to our lengthly disucssions on cigars and the trading of them. I can only imagine you got so by reading a term we use, 'dog rocket'. If, that is the case I must fully endorse you going back to high school and taking a class called reading comprehension. None of the members or guests of Ciagr Pass have EVER sent each other fecal matter or bombed each other with it (by the way again the term 'bomb' is a slang term we use to describe the sending of a gift package full of cigars, had you read the entire foumns instead of just a few select words, you would of found the definition of what we call a 'bomb' in several threads and of the term dog rocket as have stated on numerous occassions what we consider to be such).

It is my hope that you will see that you were in gross error over what transpires on our site and send an apology not only to our site adminstrator but to all of us members as well. While I can find some humor in your misunderstanding, it is because I find blatant ignornace comical and you have showed that. That aside however, I am very offended that you or anyone would think that myself and my friends were engaged in the "promoting the bombing of people with fecal matter". You need to invesitgate things instead of making massive gross asumptions as you have and making such slanderous accusations.

As an organizational leader of a couple non-profit groups that does use the internet medium and in need of web-hosting services, I can guarantee you that I will not be using your company. Furthermore, I do plan on sending infomration about your misconduct on this matter to those associates of mine who may also be looking for such services. Personally I think you should be held responsible for slander for not only the web site, but also for all of us who are members of this site.

I do hope that you realize your mistake and make appropiate apologies immediately. Perhaps next time that a web site comes along that you truly do not understand the terminology or the slang used in the posts made, you will think twice and decide to actually ask for clarification or do some research on your own to find out the meanings of such words. The fact that you couldn't comprehend what we were doing though shows me a lack of intelligence that makes me wonder how you have ever started and kept a business such as yours running.

Sincerely,
 
This stinks! :lookup:

Kudos to you ROD for getting it back up for us. :thumbs:
 
well I'll be honest with you, after thinking about this for a bit, here's what I THINK might have happened.

The site has been growing a lot lately, everyone has noticed this. Based on what their pricing packages are (I don't know what Rod is paying) but I would think that maybe the site simply was too active for this company to handle, and therefore they simply "found" a way that the site was violated the user agreement. I have certainly seen this before. I've even seen a company double bill all of the people who host their site with them, and then simply unplug their servers and close up shop.

just my 2 cents...
 
Allofus123 said:
Oh and Rod..... I had about 5,000 post before the crash.
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And I of course, had 10,001.;)
 
Of all the stipulations they accused CP of violating, I can't find a single legitimate reason (besides cursing). I would be willing to bet they apply an automated filter to each site they host. Anytime a particular word or phrase is used, no matter what context, the site is marked. Seeing as that we love to use "dog rockets" and whatnots... their automated systems just red flagged us. I can't possibly imagine someone mistaking what we discuss in the forums as "bombing" and "fecal" matters. I guess this is what happens when people get lazy and delegate their tasks to computers and programs. :angry:

Btw, I had upwards of 2000 posts. :D Of course, only 265 or so were legitimate. :thumbs:
 
Yet another email from L40.net

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We have been recieving "mass" emails from your users of cigarpass. We
have
also been receiving several Denial of Service attacks. The users are
stating
and quoting the messages we relayed to you and only you about situation
of
having nude images and allowing questionable activities.

Therefore we are going to be reporting your are asking your users to
spam us
and perform Denial of Service Attacks to the proper authorities.

Please be advised that these type of activity is a federal offense.

--
Support Services
L40.net Webhosting
www.L40.net

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I don't remember asking you guys to SPAM them, or perform DoS attacks? More false accusations from them...
 
Actually...spamming is NOT a federal offense...the Senate did in fact pass anti spam legislation...but I odn't think it's gone to the house yet...let alone signed by the president. and I certainly did not see you ask us to perform DOS atatcks.
 
Well, I did send them an email, and this is what I said.

Good day Sir. I would like to lodge a formal complaint with your company, this is in regards to a forum to which I belong to "CigarPass.com" The complaint is basically that your company has closed the above forum based on ill advised info from one of your employees, who has absolutely no knowledge of what goes on in this forum, not only did he state that we where trading fecal material, which I find personally offensive that your company could suggest that we where doing this, plus I would like to know exactly were this so called employee of yours had gotten info that we were trading such material. Based on the total lack of common sense your company has used in dealing with the above forum, I would have to advise any and all members of all the current forums I belong to, plus I will also inform the current ITT person of the city I work for, not to ever use your company, I truly hope you will rectify your mistake. Thank You.

Now as for DoS attacks, I think they are loosing there small minds. Damn loosers.
 
Tell them so is slander. Tell them also you would be happy to report their slanderous business ethics to their local better Business Bureau.

Now they're pissing me off. Assholes can't even admit that they made a mistake on their statements and want to threaten legalities? F#$K em.

Sam
 
Hey Jeff and Rod,
If you need a place to host the forum let me know, I have a forum on my website that I am not using... You guys are welcome to use it if you need to

Mike
 
Rod,
I am not sure on the legalitty of it, but isn't your site considered your property, even though it is hosted on their equipment? If so, then they are responible for providing the site as it was when they turned off service. The last back up they performed should be made available to you.
Emo
 
The only thing that I find funny about all of this, is that Beast and Joe lost all there posts from the padding war. LMAO
 
Rod:

I think you should send this in to Letterman or Leno. :) It's like these people are from a different planet than we are!

BTW, what is a "Denial of Service" attack?

Take care, Bacchus
 

or their?


bwahhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaa

King's English Police, just trying to beat DaveWF to the punch and trying to see if you still love me Mike.
 
A way of overloading a hosts server but sending too many requests for the server to handle. Which by the way, if their server is at peak bandwidth or processor usage because of our little site, then they really are small time mom and pop operation ot worth of any real web site. Just my 2 cents

Emo
 
Excellent. Back to well under 200 posts. THANKS ROD!!!


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