jayro75
Well-Known Member
Looks like he pussied out!
I apologize. My earlier post was in poor taste, only posted because I was reminded by the title of the post of riddles. To my knowledge I've only jumped into two volatile threads, what's-his-face with the Westchester cigar club, and Fred. In one other situation, a volatile situation found a thread I was already in, and I tried to diffuse it. But your point is well taken, my apologies.Ahem, Phil (Insight)....what say you?
I think... like most of the issues we have here this discussion could have been avoided if early on the detractors had not been busy playing emperor's new clothes.
I also think Gavin should stop jumping into every volatile thread, it doesn't look good.
I was just trying to help the guy. Sorry if you thought I was trying to make a buck. I paid for the wood and in a package of shavings is about equal to what I paid for it. No profiteering on it. I am a contributor here. I've been busy at work and my lap top has a broken power port so I don't get to post as much as I use to. I work 9:00 to 6:00 then go home, eat then head out to my shop and work to around 11:00PM. When I get the lap top fixed I will contribute more from home.
As far as what the 10 bucks would have got you goes, it's about a cubic foot of material packed. Probably 2 or more board feet. Spanish cedar is about 8 bucks a BF. But honestly, pay the postage and I'll send you all of it for free. It's not a big deal.
When everyone came down on me a long time ago I was told to "Read more, post less" With my computer problems that's what I've been doing.
Also, something that goes on behind the scenes that no one is considering, is that I get a lot of PM's asking for advice on peoples own builds. I reply to the best of my knowledge and offer any resources I can to help. I contribute regularly in that arena.
This economy has hit my business very hard. Down 70%+ from 2 years ago. I'm working many more hours than in the past to beat this economy into submission. I will be doing more reviews and much more in the future. And just so you know, I've only built 2 desk tops since November. I'm not in any kind production. I'm mostly working on the curved cabinet I posted a while back. Jumping to conclusions isn't the way to resolve an issue. I'm disappointed so many respected people here did. I apologize if anyone is offended, it's not my intention. It's too bad you have never met me. I think you all would have a different opinion.
I was just trying to help the guy. Sorry if you thought I was trying to make a buck. I paid for the wood and in a package of shavings is about equal to what I paid for it. No profiteering on it. I am a contributor here. I've been busy at work and my lap top has a broken power port so I don't get to post as much as I use to. I work 9:00 to 6:00 then go home, eat then head out to my shop and work to around 11:00PM. When I get the lap top fixed I will contribute more from home.
As far as what the 10 bucks would have got you goes, it's about a cubic foot of material packed. Probably 2 or more board feet. Spanish cedar is about 8 bucks a BF. But honestly, pay the postage and I'll send you all of it for free. It's not a big deal.
When everyone came down on me a long time ago I was told to "Read more, post less" With my computer problems that's what I've been doing.
Also, something that goes on behind the scenes that no one is considering, is that I get a lot of PM's asking for advice on peoples own builds. I reply to the best of my knowledge and offer any resources I can to help. I contribute regularly in that arena.
This economy has hit my business very hard. Down 70%+ from 2 years ago. I'm working many more hours than in the past to beat this economy into submission. I will be doing more reviews and much more in the future. And just so you know, I've only built 2 desk tops since November. I'm not in any kind production. I'm mostly working on the curved cabinet I posted a while back. Jumping to conclusions isn't the way to resolve an issue. I'm disappointed so many respected people here did. I apologize if anyone is offended, it's not my intention. It's too bad you have never met me. I think you all would have a different opinion.
Problem is John, that with a quick search online I've found 30 pound bags of kiln dried Spanish cedar chips for 10 dollars plus shipping. It must be a mighty large sock to hold 30 pounds.
Also those chips are guaranteed 100% clean since they are not woodworking byproducts, big difference to the results of gathering up all the shavings and dust left over from a project and putting it in a bag (been an avid woodworker for years trust me on that).
I have nothing wrong with him making a small profit off what basically is a waste product. Gouging I do have a problem with, and I think gouging is what is being addressed here John.
I'm so glad to see your willingness to support an American small business in these tough times. I guess China is a better investment. Their open for business just for you.
I'm so glad to see your willingness to support an American small business in these tough times. I guess China is a better investment. Their open for business just for you.
I'm so glad to see your willingness to support an American small business in these tough times. I guess China is a better investment. Their open for business just for you.
You've represented yourself as a retailer since July '09 when you opened the new shop. I don't see how the watchdogs "knowing" you were going to do this and that you were a retailer representing yourself as a hobbyist has anything to do with anything. It's a he said / she said that will never have a winner.
I'm so glad to see your willingness to support an American small business in these tough times. I guess China is a better investment. Their open for business just for you.
You really don't get it.
I'm in another wood working contest on Fine Wood Working's website. I made the top 15 wood turnings selected by Fine Wood Working magazine's editors but the winner is up to the public. I was hoping that if you feel I'm deserving of your vote that you might vote for me. My turning is called Monsoon. Here's the link and thanks.
http://www.finewoodworking.com/item/18577/vote-for-the-winner-of-our-wood-turning-gallery-challenge
Like John (jfields) said, a lot of us have kept our mouths shut because we were under the impression that you had The Todd's blessing. Many many months back when I asked you about an ashtray, and you gave me a figure, it was insanity. I could not believe that you had presented yourself as a BOTL to the community with a "hobby" for making cool looking ashtrays and humidors, then behind the scenes you were asking close to $300 for a 4-seater ashtray.
I wish I still had the PM, but when I asked you about the cost of materials, and you gave me a number, I started scratching my head as to why you'd charge that much for a material that didn't cost as much as the ashtray and the price you gave me. In my opinion, I thought as a self-proclaimed BOTL, you'd just be charging enough for materials to keep your "hobby" expenses down so you can continue to build. I PM'd you back and asked you why the price was so high, and you danced around the price question until you finally told me that most of the cost was for your hours of work. Based on the time you told me, I think you said around 4 hours of work per ashtray, I was paying close to $50 bucks an hour for your labor, then materials, and shipping and handling. When I still said no, you then told me that we could work out a partial cigars/money trade for it. That's when I stopped communicating with you and wrote you off as a swindler. Some price for a "hobbyist" BOTL who's just here to "contribute" to the community.
That's another thing! I don't know why, but your use of the word Watchdog annoyed me.