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Newbie or anybody for that matter pass.

I don't see wasting a good opportunity as it seems there are several up for doing this as long as there's a change or two.

So, if Steamboat is cancelling the pass, I would like to pick up the ball and run with it. If there are no objections, I d like to read up a little more on other passes, study the rules, and get help from one of the more experienced members to get this started. I have a fairly good selection that I would be more than happy to put up to start this thing.

Does anyone have objections to this? If no objections, who would be a good candidate/volunteer to give direction, pointers, advice, criticism (constructive), etc.?

As long as you have an experienced member (or even 2) help you get it going, I don't think you'll get many objections. As for who that person is, you might get a volunteer from your post. If not, you might want to select an experienced BOTL (*cough* BBS *cough*), send them a PM and proactively solicit their support. :)
 
I am inclined to wait. I have no intention of rocking the boat or trying to change the way things are done. I seemed to have inadvertently stepped on some toes and I think I will have a much better chance of recruiting seven people after things cool off a little. If I was a newbie reading this thread, thinking about joining a pass, the first few posts saying it was a bad idea and wouldn't work, would really make me hesitate before joining this pass no matter how bad I wanted to join a pass. I had one person tell me they would like to join but didn't want to risk making others mad at them by joining my pass. I sent them a SLR in the mail today so they don't have miss out on a cigar due to controversy.

Thanks for the offer to help and I will take you up on it at a later date, if it is still available.

My concern is why didn’t the first few posts tell you “it was a bad idea and wouldn't work”. Actually they did, you just dismissed it. So my concern is why is that you continue to dismiss the advice, suggestions, and offers to assist as “The Big Kids won’t let you play” or that your wanting to host a pass is “stepping on toes”.

What’s with this newbie entitlement mentality? I don’t understand this “I’d do it but I don’t want to make someone mad or rock the boat”. It’s pure BS. There’s no separation between “Fog” and “Newb”, this is a community of brothers and Sisters. Yes, reputation is important but reputation is the result of those you interact with getting to know your character. It’s the same in every aspect of society; this isn’t something unique to CigarPass.

Why on earth would you expect to be received differently here than at work, school, or anywhere else? In the real world do you always get what want from people who know nothing about you, just because you want it? And when you don’t get what you want, is it because “The Big Kids won’t let you play” or is it because you’ve not taken the opportunity to show yourself to be of good character?

Quit being the Newbie Martyr, it’s unbecoming a Brother.


I don't feel like a brother.

This discussion has arrived at the point where it is no longer productive and I am going to click on the link and ask that it be closed.
 
I don't feel like a brother.
Nobody likes me.

You are all mean.

Quit picking on me.

I want this thread closed so all you bad men will leave me alone.

.....whatever.

Preembargo's post was right on. Get over it and move on, move aside, or move out. Just pick one and get with it.

Good freakin' grief - B.B.S.
 
Man, I have been around a little while and still don't feel comfortable with participating in passes let alone starting one. Why don't you wait to participate in 1 or 2 before you try to start one....

-D
 
If you're done, then please follow the link at the top of the page and have this thread and your "would it be" thread moved to the completed folder. That will for the most part end this discussion, and allow your cooling off period to begin. Not to mention cleaning up the "open" folder.

Quoted for the reading impaired that think I have a motive for closing this thread other because you asked me to close it.

If there are any more Trolls out there that want to trash me, go ahead, I can take it.
 
And now people are "Trolls" for offering advice? Nice way to look at things.
 
And now people are "Trolls" for offering advice? Nice way to look at things.
I never saw anywhere in this thread where anyone was trashing him either. ??? Everyone seemed quite nice and offered really good advice that just seemed to be ignored.
 
And now people are "Trolls" for offering advice? Nice way to look at things.
I never saw anywhere in this thread where anyone was trashing him either. ??? Everyone seemed quite nice and offered really good advice that just seemed to be ignored.

Please read blindedbyscience's post and if that isn't considered a Troll post, let me know. It is about three or four posts up. I am certain it doesn't qualify as really nice..
 
All a matter of perspective and how people read things. Some people seem to be offended by you using the "big kid/little kid" line and you're obviously offended by your reading of other people's post. It's hard to interpret people's true meaning in text.

Some "thick skins" could be distributed all around, if you ask me.
 
All a matter of perspective and how people read things. Some people seem to be offended by you using the "big kid/little kid" line and you're obviously offended by your reading of other people's post. It's hard to interpret people's true meaning in text.

Some "thick skins" could be distributed all around, if you ask me.

Man, the reading comprehension here is a little rough. Someone posts something rude, clearly intended to upset me, someone else posts that everyone was being really nice and they didn't understand why I called someone a troll and when I point out the post in question, you think I need to grow a thicker skin.

LOL, at first I was a little upset but it is begining to get amusing. At this rate, I'll have my hundred posts knocked out in no time and can take another shot at a pass.
 
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Henceforth I shall be known as "Mr. Not Really Nice"....... :laugh:
 
OMG y'all are killin' me!! I laughed so hard I almost passed out! I love the sense of humor you guys have... :laugh:

Okay....back to serious face again... :angry:
 
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