It is you you you

[Bsneed51]

You also have to consider that when you listen to music from years past, while it may not sound like the modern classification of the genre, during it’s time it was considered very progressive. If you listen to Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Motorhead, or Iron Maiden it may very well sound like modern hard rock, or some other genre, but during it’s time period it was the most aggressive influential music.

 

[jayro75]

You also have to consider that when you listen to music from years past, while it may not sound like the modern classification of the genre, during it’s time it was considered very progressive. If you listen to Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Motorhead, or Iron Maiden it may very well sound like modern hard rock, or some other genre, but during it’s time period it was the most aggressive influential music.

Yep and 1980's Metallica would kill themselves if they looked into a crystal ball and saw what they would become in the future.

 

[b.dawgson]

You also have to consider that when you listen to music from years past, while it may not sound like the modern classification of the genre, during it's time it was considered very progressive. If you listen to Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Motorhead, or Iron Maiden it may very well sound like modern hard rock, or some other genre, but during it's time period it was the most aggressive influential music.

I'll agree with you on this.

 

[Devil Doc]

There is an older fella I work with who, when asked if he listened to heavy metal, pulled out a Black Sabbath CD and proceeded to jam out. I have much respect for every band mentioned here but I just call em like I see em. Deep Purple, Ozzy/Black Sabbath, GnR, AC/DC etc. are all classic rock now-a-days.


"There are more things on heaven and earth, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

That's like saying Fats Domino ain't Rock 'n Roll

Doc.

 

[Jonesy]

You also have to consider that when you listen to music from years past, while it may not sound like the modern classification of the genre, during it's time it was considered very progressive. If you listen to Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Motorhead, or Iron Maiden it may very well sound like modern hard rock, or some other genre, but during it's time period it was the most aggressive influential music.

This is so true. These are the bands I grew up on and for the time, like you said Brent, they were the most aggressive out there. It may not seem like it now, but back then, that's what everyone was gauged against. Just like I stated earlier with the 2 Live Crew reference. Hell, their album was banned in some state because of obscenity. Now, it would sound just like any other rap album that no one even blinks an eye over anymore.

Why do you always have to be the voice of reason Brent?? :laugh:

 

[Bsneed51]

I will say though, that for a long time I just listened to the music of "my generation" and it's only been in the last 5-6 years that I've really started to get big into digging back into the roots of the music I like. I love rock now so I've been listening to a lot of Hedrix, The Who, The Rolling Stones, The Doors, etc. I also like heavy metal so I've been listening to more Sabbath, Judas Priest, King Diamond, Motorhead, and others. It's awesome to listen to one of those "classic rock" albums, and then listen to a more modern album, because after a while you start to pick up on the subtle (and sometimes not so subtle) influences that are there.

 

[b.dawgson]

There is an older fella I work with who, when asked if he listened to heavy metal, pulled out a Black Sabbath CD and proceeded to jam out. I have much respect for every band mentioned here but I just call em like I see em. Deep Purple, Ozzy/Black Sabbath, GnR, AC/DC etc. are all classic rock now-a-days.

"There are more things on heaven and earth, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

That's like saying Fats Domino ain't Rock 'n Roll

Doc.

Sure in the 40's/50's or whatever he was Rock 'n Roll, so was Elvis. Now it's oldies.

I will say though, that for a long time I just listened to the music of "my generation" and it's only been in the last 5-6 years that I've really started to get big into digging back into the roots of the music I like. I love rock now so I've been listening to a lot of Hedrix, The Who, The Rolling Stones, The Doors, etc. I also like heavy metal so I've been listening to more Sabbath, Judas Priest, King Diamond, Motorhead, and others. It's awesome to listen to one of those "classic rock" albums, and then listen to a more modern album, because after a while you start to pick up on the subtle (and sometimes not so subtle) influences that are there.

I love that part right there. :thumbs:

 

[Devil Doc]

You're hopless, dawgson.

Doc.

 

[b.dawgson]

YESSSS!

:laugh:

Just pickin' at ya Doc!

 

[Nashkicker]

Maybe I shouldn't have said "most" influential. But Outkast definitely did something different and influential. I have an older brother, I know the roots. :thumbs:

And BTW: Metallica isn't heavy metal.

Sure, you could technically consider them thrash metal, which is a sub-genre of heavy metal. Maybe you can consider them speed metal. Beyond that, you've got me.

What if I consider them garbage?

 

[Jonesy]

Maybe I shouldn't have said "most" influential. But Outkast definitely did something different and influential. I have an older brother, I know the roots. :thumbs:

And BTW: Metallica isn't heavy metal.

Sure, you could technically consider them thrash metal, which is a sub-genre of heavy metal. Maybe you can consider them speed metal. Beyond that, you've got me.

What if I consider them garbage?

BLASPHEMY I SAY!!!

 

[Smokyballs]

I will say though, that for a long time I just listened to the music of "my generation" and it's only been in the last 5-6 years that I've really started to get big into digging back into the roots of the music I like. I love rock now so I've been listening to a lot of Hedrix, The Who, The Rolling Stones, The Doors, etc. I also like heavy metal so I've been listening to more Sabbath, Judas Priest, King Diamond, Motorhead, and others. It's awesome to listen to one of those "classic rock" albums, and then listen to a more modern album, because after a while you start to pick up on the subtle (and sometimes not so subtle) influences that are there.

Yeah, I wonder why?

 

[Strayvector]

Janis, her name was Janis.

Doc.

Meh...Scott was the original Joplin.

 

[AVB]

I am the dance of ages,
The drummer and the wine.
Heartbeat in the sand,
Dreams inside your hand.
I am a shout of THUNDER,
A cannon in the wind

Heavy Metal as a defined musical genre did not exist before November 1970 when the term was first used by Mike Saunders in Rolling Stone #70 to critique the Humble Pie album “As Safe As Yesterday Is.” “This album, more of the same 27th-rate heavy metal crap, is worse than the first two put together." Obviously, the music was around before the terminology with Blue Cheer's cover of Summertime Blues and Steppenwolf's Born to be Wild hitting the charts within a month of each other followed by Beck's "Truth" and The Yardbirds' "Think About It" with the seminal Iron Butterfly's In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida shortly afterwards.

Of course, the entire world owes William S. Burroughs for coming up with Uranian Willy, the Heavy Metal Kid in 1962 from the book "The Soft Machine" which also became the name of a group who opened for Hendrix in 1968. In his book "Nova Express" (1964), Burroughs continues the theme, "With their diseases and orgasm drugs and their sexless parasite life forms—Heavy Metal People of Uranus wrapped in cool blue mist of vaporized bank notes—And The Insect People of Minraud with metal music."

Now if anyone wants to talk the roots of Heavy Metal ala the Kinks "All Day And All Of The Night", The Who's "The Ox" or Cream's "Fresh Cream" I'm all for it.

 

[AVB]

Black Market Clash - Pressure Drop

 

[Devil Doc]

I prefer the ska version by the Maytals My link There's some music that certain folks should avoid.

Doc.

 

[Bsneed51]

I will say though, that for a long time I just listened to the music of "my generation" and it's only been in the last 5-6 years that I've really started to get big into digging back into the roots of the music I like. I love rock now so I've been listening to a lot of Hedrix, The Who, The Rolling Stones, The Doors, etc. I also like heavy metal so I've been listening to more Sabbath, Judas Priest, King Diamond, Motorhead, and others. It's awesome to listen to one of those "classic rock" albums, and then listen to a more modern album, because after a while you start to pick up on the subtle (and sometimes not so subtle) influences that are there.

Yeah, I wonder why?

You're just my enabler, who happens to have every good musicians entire catalog on file. Thank you. :laugh:

 

[PJ the Comic]

Yeah I didn't catch it either... Though if someone says something about Peter Frampton, I automatically think "Frampton comes alive" with his crazy mouth harp skills. Of course I know who he is, hell I've got the CD. Doesn't mean I know every collaboration he's ever done.

However, I think I may be safe to say that Doc and Ray would have no idea what I was talking about if I said "southernplayalisticcadillacmusic". Probably one of the most influential groups of the revolutionary rap/r&b era(s).


/tangent

Boy, we can tell you're young if you think that Outkast first album was one of the most influential. Where do you think all this started? Although I hate it now, I was a teen in the 80's so all I listened to was rap. Everyone raised hell back then because of 2 Live Crew because of their lyrics...now you can't sell a rap album unless you say F#ck 30 times in each song. N.W.A. was the pioneering "Gangsta" rap band, Grandmaster Flash, The Fat Boys, Kurtis Blow, DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince, Beastie Boys....etc.

You want to talk about the most influential rap album and group....it's Run DMC and their Raising Hell album.

Oh sure Brian, and what next? You going to try and tell me that Metallica didn't create heavy metal, Slash isn't the greatest guitarist ever, Limp Bizkit didn't start the rap/rock revolution, and Garth Brooks wasn't the first true country music legend? :laugh:

Ha!!

:hands Brian a napkin:

Here ya go pal, for the egg on your face. Don't ever say I wasn't a true friend.

For what? There wasn't a thing I said that wasn't true!

By the way, this is why I dislike most people who love Metallica. Most of them didn't even know who they were before "One" came out. Then they came out with the Black Album and everybody and their Brothers loved them. Where were these people when I was jamming to Kill 'em All, Ride the Lightning, and Master of Puppets on cassette in my "boombox"! I guess Iron Maiden, Slayer, and Megadeth weren't metal either.

(this was when I wasn't trying to beat box like the Fat Boys! :laugh

I was there baby! All the cassettes as well. Until my mom found the devils music and destroyed them all in a Christan fit. But thankfully all have been replaced on disc.

My favorite was going to the show and watching all the hotties rocking out to the radio songs then standing quietly while the boys rocked Sanitarium or any early songs. Of course they were easy to look at but not much for the music.

Metallica was the beginning of Heavy Metal. But as with all things someone had to be faster and harder. Back in the day Metallica was the fastest and hardest mainstream band out.

PJ

 

[sigar_zealot]

Fats Domino and Metallica mentioned on the same thread??

I love it!

 

[AVB]

Simply one of the most ludicrous statements I have ever read.

Metallica was the beginning of Heavy Metal.
PJ