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Interesting read

I have never ordered from Puroexpress, but I might try some of the replacement brands they mentioned.... And I fully understand that it was an add disguise as a blog post
 
Good read. I've ordered from puroexpress in the past and have no complaints.

I haven't really been in the buying phase of the hobby for some time and decided to take a look... GOOD LORD! Some of the sticks I used to consider daily smokers are looking like investment sticks! One thing the article failed to mention is the impact inflation has had. When a currency's buying power decreases, the cost of things increases and it's clear that the Cuban cigar market is no exception.
 
With limited production and insane 'baller' demand, they can pretty much charge as much as they want and will still sell every stick they can put together. It's my understanding that shipments to Switzerland, once known as a large hub for these smokes, is getting their allocation cut so more can be shipped to....China. I've also heard that most of the smokes sold through the on line auction site also go to China.

As long as there are folks that are willing to pay $40.00 - 100.00+ a stick, and as long as they sell every one they can make....don't look for any price reductions.
 
BlindedByScience said:
With limited production and insane 'baller' demand, they can pretty much charge as much as they want and will still sell every stick they can put together. It's my understanding that shipments to Switzerland, once known as a large hub for these smokes, is getting their allocation cut so more can be shipped to....China. I've also heard that most of the smokes sold through the on line auction site also go to China.

As long as there are folks that are willing to pay $40.00 - 100.00+ a stick, and as long as they sell every one they can make....don't look for any price reductions.
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it's almost like they are embracing Capitalism ...:eek:
 
I hope the CC pricing and demand, goes the way of what I've seen in the Craft beer industry and now starting in the Whiskey/Bourbon area. Popularity drives up price and demand. Eventually people find alternatives and now you have things sitting on the shelves, that would have been snagged up immediately.

I don't know if this will happen, as long as there are people buying these absurd priced boxes. I guess one can only hope. Sure would be nice to be able to buy a box of PSD4, for $250 again 😂
 
Let’s just say, for the sake of this question, that CC prices have reached their peak and no one is buying. If they dropped the prices by 25%, would that be enough for you to start buying again, keeping in mind the significant degradation in quality/construction?

For me, that would be a big no…
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For me, 25% isn't close. The absurd prices have forced folks to find alternatives, and there are wonderful alternatives out there. Of course there are "Cuban only" guys out there. All I can say is they're missing out on some really great sticks....
 
BlindedByScience said:
For me, 25% isn't close. The absurd prices have forced folks to find alternatives, and there are wonderful alternatives out there. Of course there are "Cuban only" guys out there. All I can say is they're missing out on some really great sticks....
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+1

I was never a Cuban only guy anyway, but there are a ton of terrific cigars out there in a whole range of flavor profiles that Cubans can't replicate.
 
What the article meant to say but never did was Puroexpress and others like Prez at FOH have been cut off. So now they have to convince you of the new product ventures they are going into. Sales were easier pre-covid and now they are struggling and spending way more energy to keep their head above water. They are also dealing with new headaches they werent anticipating. So life is not the party it once was. John
 
Johnny-O! said:
What the article meant to say but never did was Puroexpress and others like Prez at FOH have been cut off. So now they have to convince you of the new product ventures they are going into. Sales were easier pre-covid and now they are struggling and spending way more energy to keep their head above water. They are also dealing with new headaches they werent anticipating. So life is not the party it once was. John
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Interesting to hear, thanks for that. Do you see any sanity returning to the market, or are they going to ride this price structure as long as they can...??
 
BlindedByScience said:
Interesting to hear, thanks for that. Do you see any sanity returning to the market, or are they going to ride this price structure as long as they can...??
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My guess, as long as China is buying the price will keep rising. I saw this in the high-end headphone space for the past decade. And it is still on going there; the price ceiling won't be hit until China calms their "price equates quality" philosophy.
 
If there is any price reduction in the cigars it will start with the lesser known brands/vitolas, machine made and smaller cigars. Common brah, $6 for Jose L Piedras? They will however keep coming up with fancy packaging/regional/limited editions that are just regular production cigars that are being priced higher. The most recent examples I can think of is Esplendidos Gran Cosecha 2017 and Lanceros Tributo that are being disguised as older/aged cigars when they are just regular production cigars. If the Chinese get tired of Habanos SA's jedi-mind-tricks it will be a while as they have a deep culture in to tobacco/cigars and there just too many people that have to maintain their status/image. You can blame Bill Clinton for his dadgummed "Globalization" for this situation. John
 
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