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100-0 basketball game?

"...when my girls played with honor and integrity."

That's not integrity, it's the furthest thing from. That would have been a fun game to watch though, for the first 10 minutes at least :p
 
tsmckenney said:
WWJD?
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He would keep taking it to the rack until those other girls learned to D up!

I think the fact that people are upset over this, and the coach got fired is ridiculous. As someone who helps coach young kids in sports, you never want to embarrass another team, but at the same time if you are going to instill in your team to play hard, and play right, you can't "dial it down" just because the other team isn't as good as you are. I've had teams on both end of butt kickings, and I can tell you that I would much rather the other team keep playing hard and beat us by 100, than for them to back down and show us mercy. I'm sure the reserves played plenty in that game, and you can't ask them to just stand around killing the clock. I guess I'm just of a different mindset.
 
Bsneed51 said:
tsmckenney said:
WWJD?
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He would keep taking it to the rack until those other girls learned to D up!

I think the fact that people are upset over this, and the coach got fired is ridiculous. As someone who helps coach young kids in sports, you never want to embarrass another team, but at the same time if you are going to instill in your team to play hard, and play right, you can't "dial it down" just because the other team isn't as good as you are. I've had teams on both end of butt kickings, and I can tell you that I would much rather the other team keep playing hard and beat us by 100, than for them to back down and show us mercy. I'm sure the reserves played plenty in that game, and you can't ask them to just stand around killing the clock. I guess I'm just of a different mindset.
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Agreed. Where is the motivation to practice harder and to play better, if every team must hold back and play down to your level? 100-0 is bad, but it doesn't deserve the winning coach to be fired.
 
What I find interesting about the article is the mentioning of the frenzied crowd. That, in itself, tells you that there's more going on here than is being reported. This story is a great example of today's media. "Hey, look at what this cocks.cker did. We should burn him alive!!!" I see what you're saying, Brent. I don't think 'this' should have happened though. You show up, you kick ass and your girls are honorable or whatever stupid term the coach used, and then you just stop scoring. This story would be completely different had that happened, regardless of what the numbskull parents in the stands were going on about.

A good coach does a little more than just teach the skills of the game. Whether or not the guy should get fired? Who knows, we would need the whole story around that as well and we're not going to get it.
 
Yeah this is a local story here and is getting beat to death.

I don't have any real strong opinions either way, but here are a couple of facts that may or may not have made the news cycle where you are;

The winning team did dial it down late in the game. They didn't score a single point in the last 4 minutes. I guess there was something magical about 100 points AND a shutout.

They played a full court press early on but backed off to half court after the score was already out of hand. It was at that point, the game was described as a 'layup drill' for Covenant. Steal the ball at half court, drive for the layup, etc.

Having taught Upward Basketball in church, I can assure you there are ways to teach good sportsmanship and competitiveness without completely demoralizing your opponent.

It appears to me, there were problems all the way around in this story and in the end, nobody really wins.
 
Maybe the winning school, the parents, and the losing school are upset because of the following:

Dallas Academy has eight girls on its varsity team and about 20 girls in its high school. It is winless over the last four seasons. The academy boasts of its small class sizes and specializes in teaching students struggling with "learning differences," such as short attention spans or dyslexia.
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As we know, Special Olympics shows that even children and adults with mild to severe disabilities can perform extremely well in sports and sometimes even out-perform your average sports player in certain categories*. Just wondering if the parents and schools felt the coach abused and exploited any "disabilities" the girls of Dallas Academy might have by destroying them in their basketball game, not to say that dyslexia or short attention span is on the same level as some of the disabilities of the athletes of the S.O.s, and I personally don't classify dyslexia or short attention span as a disability, but you get my point... :phew:


Maybe we should ask BigJake, I'm pretty sure he went to school there!**






(*DISCLAIMER: I'm not making a joke here...)
(**DISCLAIMER: Now that be a joke right dere'... :laugh: :sign: )
Edited to clarify my stance on disabilities...
 
souldog24ca said:
As we know, Special Olympics shows that even children and adults with mild to severe disabilities can perform extremely well in sports and sometimes even out-perform your average sports player in certain categories. Just wondering if the parents and schools felt the coach abused and exploited any "disabilities" the girls of Dallas Academy might have by destroying them in their basketball game.

Maybe we should ask BigJake, I'm pretty sure he went to school there!**
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:0 I don't get it. ???
 
I will concede that if the coach was telling his team to keep scoring, and they were taunting, etc. that is out of line. I don't know for sure if that did or did not happen. I just know that I have coached games with my son's teams that we have been leaps and bounds better than our opponent. In those cases you don't intentionally run the score up, but at the same time you don't make your kids stop playing hard. Sure, you try to employ ways to slow the game down, but when your opponent doesn't defend a wide open player, or their shortstop keeps booting grounders, you continue to play the game.

Don't get me wrong on this however, I'm not the type of coach who gloats over a blowout win, or approves of that behavior. You still promote sportsmanship in your players, and you immediately put a stop to any bragging or trash talking. I honestly feel bad for kids when they lose badly, or when I see an opposing coach who hasn't taught his team how to play properly, and who doesn't care. Sometimes blowing out another team is unavoidable, so I can see this from the winning coaches perspective.
 
....but you have to admit, it looks a little weird that they score like crazy up until the moment they hit 100 points with 4 minutes left in the game.

Hmmm.....
 
sonuvabum said:
....but you have to admit, it looks a little weird that they score like crazy up until the moment they hit 100 points with 4 minutes left in the game.

Hmmm.....
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Yeah, there's little doubt that was the deal. Maybe he wanted to get there, the girls wanted to get there, the crowd wanted it, student body, etc... BUT, wait, there's a twist... The coach decides they shouldn't score 100, they should stop somewhere well before that and explains to his girls why. Everyone understands the decision and commends the coach later. In fact, f'ng MTV comes out and buys the rights to the movie. The coach retires wealthy and surfs porn for the rest of his miserable existance.
 
Bsneed51 said:
tsmckenney said:
WWJD?
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He would keep taking it to the rack until those other girls learned to D up!

I think the fact that people are upset over this, and the coach got fired is ridiculous. As someone who helps coach young kids in sports, you never want to embarrass another team, but at the same time if you are going to instill in your team to play hard, and play right, you can't "dial it down" just because the other team isn't as good as you are. I've had teams on both end of butt kickings, and I can tell you that I would much rather the other team keep playing hard and beat us by 100, than for them to back down and show us mercy. I'm sure the reserves played plenty in that game, and you can't ask them to just stand around killing the clock. I guess I'm just of a different mindset.
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However I read that the "winning" team was making afull-court press and shooting threes late into the game. A bit much if you ask me. Otherwise you play your second, third string and keep playing - just don't rub it in.
 
I come from a family with a number of coaches, and I agree with the fact that you should never ask your players not to play their hardest, but I think this situation is different. If it's completely obvious that the other team doesn't belong on the floor with you, and you're still having your team jack up threes well into the fourth quarter in an effort to get to 100 points, then you have completely thrown any modicum of sportsmanship out the window. On top of that, the winning team's own fans (and an assistant coach according to the report) were going crazy the closer they got to 100, further embarrassing a group of girls who I'm sure just wanted the game to end. My question to the winning coach would be "what exactly did you accomplish?" I don't think he deserved to get fired over it, but I did think the coach needed to apologize, not for the lopsidedness of the victory, but for the behavior of the fans and his own coaching staff.

EDIT: I just heard that they were still full-court pressing in the second half (even after they were leading 59-0 at halftime). If that's true, then that asshole deserved to be fired, especially after his comments that his team played with "honor and integrity".
 
There are a lot of people to blame about this. Coaches and administration deserve the bulk of it, and the crowd does too. But, I would be ashamed if I were a player on the Covenant team. As a high school athlete, you should be old enough and mature enough to play with some class. There's nothing wrong with playing as hard as you can, but there is something wrong with shooting treys at the end of a game with a large lead. When I played, we were in this situation many times and as a competitor, you know better. I would have kicked the shit out of any of my teammates for trying to run up the score. There's a right way to play the game and a wrong way, and I give the administrator all the credit in the world for recognizing that and apologizing.
 
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