100-0 basketball game?

[bigmanfromou]

I heard the Covenant coach offered to "mercy rule" the game at halftime, but the Dallas Academy coach declined.

My thoughts on the 3 pointers were that they have a less chance of making those. The team my wife coaches was in a similar situation. Granted 3's run up the score, its also a lower probability than taking shots in the lane. However, they did invoke the mercy rule

The full court press was a little much .

 

[Eshaw99]

If this comes across as sexist, I do not mean for it to. But...if this was a game between boys teams, don't you think one of those players on the team who was running it up would have been knocked on his ass in the second half after it became obvious what was happening?

 

[Goldie]

Competition is competition, and I guess I don't feel the coach was in the wrong. I don't see......you know what, I will bite my tongue

 

[Mizicke5273]

I agree with the coach for not backing down. Why should he or the girls who won have to feel ashamed and apologetic? The ones who should feel bad is the losing team for getting beat that bad. They are the ones who should be ashamed, not the winning team. And I do speak form experience, from both sides of the coin. I played football in high school and my sophomore year we were terrible. We won 1 game all season. Our school's 2nd worst season ever. Our first game that year, we lost 40 something to nothing. I felt like shit that whole year every friday night, and I wasnt even one of the playes out on the field. Forward three years to my Senior year. We played the same team and beat them 60 something to 7. Winning and losing go hand in hand. As does getting shut out and outclassed. And as for them driving up the score like that, there is nothing wrong with that in sports.

Dallas Academy has eight girls on its varsity team and about 20 girls in its high school. It is winless over the last four seasons. The academy boasts of its small class sizes and specializes in teaching students struggling with "learning differences," such as short attention spans or dyslexia.

So they have a small school, and a very small team.....not too suprising they lost that bad.

 

[Satchmo]

If this comes across as sexist, I do not mean for it to. But...if this was a game between boys teams, don't you think one of those players on the team who was running it up would have been knocked on his ass in the second half after it became obvious what was happening?

I completely agree. I think boys would have taken this thing to the next level.... Someone would have been eating the free throw line before the score hit 100. Look at Temple basketball the other year. Send in the goons....

 

[tsmckenney]

I agree with the coach for not backing down.

I don't think "backing down" is the appropriate language here. What were they "backing down" from? Perhaps, backing off... Just out of curiosity, what is your idea of sportsmanship?

This is from Wiki: "Sportsmanship expresses an aspiration or ethos that the activity will be enjoyed for its own sake, with proper consideration for fairness, ethics, respect, and a sense of fellowship with one's competitors."

 

[Mizicke5273]

By not backing down, I meant towards the push from the school to force his apology. A winning team shouldn't have to apologize for a win, no matter how high the score.

As for my idea of sportsmanship, as long as the game is played fair and no cheating is involved, then there is not much else you can ask for. Well other than over the edge cheap shots, there is always players who will try to cheap shot some one, but as long as it is not severe then it just goes with the territory. By over the edge, things like twisting a players ankle in the pile, a low blow to the jewels, and so on. Thats the stuff that is unsportsman like to me.

 

[sonuvabum]

I would think that de-moralizing a team would come under the heading of not being of good sportsmanship.

Tossing up three's late in the game....

Cheering on and encouraging the route.....

Proving that you had the wherewithal to slow it down by not scoring a point for the last 4 minutes after you reached the magic number of 100 while at the same time saving the shutout.....

None of these seem very sportsmanlike to me.

Say what you will, but the evidence indicates otherwise.

As has already been addressed, there were plenty of other reasons why this should never have happened and the coach should never have lost his job over it, but there is no excuse for what happened and it was very un-sportsmanlike for the players and the coach to have allowed it to go on.

 

[DesertRat]

Several years ago when my oldest son decided to try and play football in the local youth league he found himself on a team that was woefully untalented and never won a game. during one particular game they were down something like 28-0 and the referee called in the "mercy rule" meaning the winning team was not allowed to score until my son's team scored first. Then, to make that easier, my son's offense was told to line up at the ten yard line and had 4 down to make the ten yards for a TD. This resulted in the total humiliation of every guy on our team. Each of them said they would rather lose trying their hardest and lose by a huge margin than lose by the "mercy rule".

 

[Mizicke5273]

See to me, score has no bearing on sportsmanship. You play to win, and always play your hardest. No matter the opponent. Ive never been in a losing game where the opposing team took it easy on us. You always go for the extra if you can get.

 

[sonuvabum]

See to me, score has no bearing on sportsmanship. You play to win, and always play your hardest. No matter the opponent. Ive never been in a losing game where the opposing team took it easy on us. You always go for the extra if you can get.

Maybe at the older player level, but these were young girls. AND, evidently the coach got some kind of religion with about 4 minutes left because they SUDDENLY didn't score another flippin' point.

You obviously don't have young kids.

I don't care how you paint it, demoralizing your opponent is NOT part of the game at ANY level of play!!

:angry:

 

[lherzolite]

What I have not heard reported is what players the coach had in playing. After half time only the kids who normally get the least playing time, should be in the game. It should be an opportunity for the coach to 1) give these kids some playing time, and 2) evaluate the kid's skills during a game. If the coach did anything else he's a classless act all around, and I would agree with his firing.

 

[Smokin'Sims]

Score isn't particularly meaningful, it is how you get there. From what I've heard, this wasn't very sportsman like, but that is without knowing what players were out there. My high school, the year after I graduated, embarrassed a team 88-6 in the second round of the state football playoffs. In this case the starters were out mid-way through the second quarter and our JV players were scoring from the last minutes of the third quarter. Our coach had pulled the best players once the game was out of hand, but they didn't stop our worst players. But to magically stop scoring with 4 minutes left after reaching a "set" score is fishy.

 

[The Black Cloud]

These weren't paid professionals, mind you. They were high school kids. I would think, with a team from a religious school, that competing with honor, integrity, and sportsmanship would be the biggest personal growth lessons a team of that sort could teach. And then we wonder why pro sports is dominated by obnoxious, money-grubbing a-holes.

 

[Mizicke5273]

See to me, score has no bearing on sportsmanship. You play to win, and always play your hardest. No matter the opponent. Ive never been in a losing game where the opposing team took it easy on us. You always go for the extra if you can get.

Maybe at the older player level, but these were young girls. AND, evidently the coach got some kind of religion with about 4 minutes left because they SUDDENLY didn't score another flippin' point.

You obviously don't have young kids.

I don't care how you paint it, demoralizing your opponent is NOT part of the game at ANY level of play!!

:angry:

Wait isn't this varsity level? Thats what I though it was after reading the article linked. And there is nothing wrong with demoralizing your opponent in varsity level sports, to an extent. As long as its not something severe like, I dont know I cant really think of anything at the moment but I dont consider 100-0 demoralizing. A lose is a lose, no matter if you lose 12-0 or 100-0, a shut out feels just as bad either way. Like Ive said, I have been at both end of the sprectrums, so I know what its like to lose 60+ to 0, and it felt the same as it did when we lose 7-0. It might actually feel worse when you lose 7-0 than 100-0, cause when its that close you know you had a shot at it at one point.

 

[Eshaw99]

I dont consider 100-0 demoralizing.

Well, then there's really no need in continuing this debate.

 

[Mizicke5273]

I dont consider 100-0 demoralizing.

Well, then there's really no need in continuing this debate.

I should rephrase that, and make it a bit clearer. At the varsity level and above I dont consider 100-0 demoralizing. Its only a score after all.

 

[tsmckenney]

Several years ago when my oldest son decided to try and play football in the local youth league he found himself on a team that was woefully untalented and never won a game. during one particular game they were down something like 28-0 and the referee called in the "mercy rule" meaning the winning team was not allowed to score until my son's team scored first. Then, to make that easier, my son's offense was told to line up at the ten yard line and had 4 down to make the ten yards for a TD. This resulted in the total humiliation of every guy on our team. Each of them said they would rather lose trying their hardest and lose by a huge margin than lose by the "mercy rule".

Huh. The "Mercy Rule" I remember in high school was "game over". I would agree with the kids on that one, but that's just stupid. Christ, where are the people with common sense? I would be the parent out on the field politely explaining to the ref why his plan sucked ass.

I dont consider 100-0 demoralizing.

Well, then there's really no need in continuing this debate.

Right.

 

[Brickhouse]

I think you go out and play your hardest every damn second you're on the court...period.

If the score starts to get embarrassing, then you take your scorers out and put in the scrubs to let them get experience and play time. But if the opposing team can't even stop the scrubs from scoring....too bad. Get better.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

 

[sonuvabum]

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

...and in this case, hate the organizers that allowed such a lop-sided affair to take place. By most accounts, this was like a PE class trying to compete at a level of organized sports where they had no business.

As I said earlier, there were lots of reasons why this should never have happened.