Decided on the Padlilla Torp Hybrid that Jhawk sent instead of the JJ. This cigar is very complex. There is a lot going on. I pick up strong coffee, some fruitiness and cedar. But there is something else that I just can't place. It is a very strong cigar. It smeeled strong of nicotine during prelight nose and reminded of copenhagan suff. I am enjoying the hell out of trying to figure this one out.