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The passed few weeks

First of all, Rich, sorry for the loss of your things, especially those that can't be replaced.

Second, just as an FYI for those who may not know, Rich mentioned that the people who owned the house were too cheap to buy insurance. Even if they had insurance on the house, it would not have covered Rich's stuff in their house. If you live in a house owned by someone else you need "renter's insurance" to cover YOUR possessions in their house. Any insurance they have will only cover the structure.
 
Everyone is fine, 4 of the cats didnt make it and 2 of them were pregnant. I was cooking at the time it happened and I heard people yelling "WATER!!". I had no idea what was going on. I went running down the hall with family running towards me. When I get ino the bedroom all I seen was fire engulfing my sons crib and going up the wall. The best I could of one was get water and attempt to put it out, ran back outside fast seen all were out and ran back in to try addng more water. Ran back out got more fresh air, ran back in my wife gave me a fire exstinguisher wrapped a towel around my nose & mouth and gave it 1 more shot. Well that didnt work so well, the smoke was about 5 ft from the ground, and it was hard to see and breathe below the smoke line. So basically my brain said get the F out so I listened, and sat across the street and had every emotion come flooding in watching eveything we owned go up. Heard things exploding and wondered what would make it and what wouldnt. And then for the rest of the next few hours, sat and thought what do we do next. For the next week sifting thru ashes sucked, I did find the metal emblem that was on the Comacho box and 6 cigars that did make it out of the 200 in the coolidor, its pretty wierd during a fire, to see what makes it and what dont. But as you can see we are still alive and breathing, messed up thing is the following week the wife took a pee test and its positive another baby on the way. And yes I would gladly accept cigars from anyone who would send them. I thought about all the smokes I lost days after the fire and I was like dammit, but then turned to the wife after her asking whats wrong, my simple reply was "damm I hated those bath towels" and chuckled. I can go on, but this is kinda long as it is. I do believe my address is on my profile but I will check and post it if isnt.

Rich, try and help me out here. I am assuming by the way you describe the events this was a Ranch, owing to the kitchen (which you were in) and the bedroom area (were your family was) being on the same floor. Is that correct?

Now you state your family was running towards you (in the kitchen area) and you are running towards the commotion which turned out to be a fire in the bedroom (the area your family was in). So was your family in the room when the fire started? What caused the your sons crib to catch on fire?

Again, I will ask if you have been in contact with the Red Cross. They can provide you with temporary housing and cloths. Also there are numerous church groups that are more than willing to help in these situations.
 
Hey guys finally got back online and figured would say hi. The resulting hiatus of my laps of the forums was due to the house myself and my family stayed at. It caught fire and we lost everything from clothes, to furniture, my coolidor, all the things that are right in your face on a daily basis. I am happy everyone made it out, now it has turned the other side of the coin and the loss factors of possesions burnt to a crisp. It was my wife who grabbed both boys, but myself who ran back in 3 times to try and fight the fire and was almost succumed to smoke and fire. It was so surreal, and I had thought of being the least scared till I was outside watching the flames shooting out the windows. Now time to heal and wait till the nightmares go away.

"Both Boys" is clearly plural

Ok now I see what happened, I did some copy/paste from the other thread which is leading up to the mooch thing and alot of the confusion were dealing with now. I am not mooching, nor do I want it to sound this way. Two members added a kind gesture in my other thread and it was replied to them. It also added some confusion along the way and I should of been more cautious and proof-read it. I also should of just been more patient, and thought, before I replied to end the confusion in this thread. But my moods got ahead of me and it shouldnt have, my appologies. I really wasnt expecting to be asked so many different types of questions
All I can say is that I hope a fire in the place were someone resides dont happen cause it really sucks. I know everything can be replaced, family aside but what cant be replaced is the memories the items holds for a person. If I didnt have my son eric I wouldnt of given a crap about them as much as I do now. Like the flyrod that I used for many years, and him hopefully wanting to learn how to use, then him feeling the same feeling many of us do when we use something of our fathers that he passed to us. I really dont know what else to say at this moment.

Good nite all
Rich

Do you have one son or two?
 
Secondly your statment is making me sound like I am demanding everyone send me cigars, thats not true dont put words in my mouth. I cannot stop repeating this but 2 members offered to send some to me and if I minded and I used the word "anyone" to address both of them in one statement in the other thread.

Hey Rich, it's not my intention to put words in your mouth, that post was directed to HM. As far as I'm concerned, your explanation makes some sense, and that's fine for me. I've got no beef with you whatsoever, I presented my concerns, and your responded well. Others here have questions for you, so I'll let you address them now. But I thank you for putting some of these concerns to rest. :thumbs: Best of luck with the new place, and I hope you get everything back to how it was before the fire. ;)
 
Hey guys finally got back online and figured would say hi. The resulting hiatus of my laps of the forums was due to the house myself and my family stayed at. It caught fire and we lost everything from clothes, to furniture, my coolidor, all the things that are right in your face on a daily basis. I am happy everyone made it out, now it has turned the other side of the coin and the loss factors of possesions burnt to a crisp. It was my wife who grabbed both boys, but myself who ran back in 3 times to try and fight the fire and was almost succumed to smoke and fire. It was so surreal, and I had thought of being the least scared till I was outside watching the flames shooting out the windows. Now time to heal and wait till the nightmares go away.

"Both Boys" is clearly plural

Ok now I see what happened, I did some copy/paste from the other thread which is leading up to the mooch thing and alot of the confusion were dealing with now. I am not mooching, nor do I want it to sound this way. Two members added a kind gesture in my other thread and it was replied to them. It also added some confusion along the way and I should of been more cautious and proof-read it. I also should of just been more patient, and thought, before I replied to end the confusion in this thread. But my moods got ahead of me and it shouldnt have, my appologies. I really wasnt expecting to be asked so many different types of questions
All I can say is that I hope a fire in the place were someone resides dont happen cause it really sucks. I know everything can be replaced, family aside but what cant be replaced is the memories the items holds for a person. If I didnt have my son eric I wouldnt of given a crap about them as much as I do now. Like the flyrod that I used for many years, and him hopefully wanting to learn how to use, then him feeling the same feeling many of us do when we use something of our fathers that he passed to us. I really dont know what else to say at this moment.

Good nite all
Ri

Do you have one son or two?


I have 1 son, but I am in a relationship that the girl had 3 other boys.
 
Hey guys finally got back online and figured would say hi. The resulting hiatus of my laps of the forums was due to the house myself and my family stayed at. It caught fire and we lost everything from clothes, to furniture, my coolidor, all the things that are right in your face on a daily basis. I am happy everyone made it out, now it has turned the other side of the coin and the loss factors of possesions burnt to a crisp. It was my wife who grabbed both boys, but myself who ran back in 3 times to try and fight the fire and was almost succumed to smoke and fire. It was so surreal, and I had thought of being the least scared till I was outside watching the flames shooting out the windows. Now time to heal and wait till the nightmares go away.

"Both Boys" is clearly plural

Ok now I see what happened, I did some copy/paste from the other thread which is leading up to the mooch thing and alot of the confusion were dealing with now. I am not mooching, nor do I want it to sound this way. Two members added a kind gesture in my other thread and it was replied to them. It also added some confusion along the way and I should of been more cautious and proof-read it. I also should of just been more patient, and thought, before I replied to end the confusion in this thread. But my moods got ahead of me and it shouldnt have, my appologies. I really wasnt expecting to be asked so many different types of questions
All I can say is that I hope a fire in the place were someone resides dont happen cause it really sucks. I know everything can be replaced, family aside but what cant be replaced is the memories the items holds for a person. If I didnt have my son eric I wouldnt of given a crap about them as much as I do now. Like the flyrod that I used for many years, and him hopefully wanting to learn how to use, then him feeling the same feeling many of us do when we use something of our fathers that he passed to us. I really dont know what else to say at this moment.

Good nite all
Ri

Do you have one son or two?


I have 1 son, but I am in a relationship that the girl had 3 other boys.

Rich, I believe you had a fire and lost everything. I am truly sorry this happened to you. I wouldn't wish that upon anyone. I am not trying to attack you in any way at all, so please do not take it that way.

I am sure there is just a simply misunderstanding. You yourself have one son. Your wife/girlfriend has 3 boys. But, you said she "grabbed both boys." May I ask where the other two boys were?

Again, please don't take my response as an attack. I have no malaise intentions and I wish you the best of luck. I know what it is like to be kicked when you are down and I don't want you to think anyone in the community is doing that. Everyone is just trying to understand whats going on with a fellow brother.
 
I've been through a fire. It really hurts more that you can imagine. We take for granted all the luxuries we have in life. Think about those cigars and how you come across them. Some are just bought but some come from friends and strangers. Many have a story too tell. I have many that the people that sent them put a lot of thought into what they were sending. I can't imagine loosing them like that. This man just lost everything. How about we put ourselves in his shoes and cut him some slack. If you don't want to send him cigars how about some prayers.
I don't want this to turn into a fiasco, just asking for understanding. I wish you the best Rich. Remember, when one door closes, another one opens. When my fire happened, I kept telling myself, "This too will pass." And it will, I can asure you.

Humi Mini, I'm pretty positive I was quite polite and reasonable in presenting everything to him, so I don't see how I'm not "cutting him some slack?" Not once did I jump down his throat and cry, "BANHAMMER!" Not once did I call him a liar or a mooch, I simply told him the reason why so many members are questioning the nature of his posts. I think I've given him plenty of understanding.

Also, this has nothing to do with anybody not wanting to send him some cigars, so your statement is invalid. This is about his questionable posts referencing his loss of cigars and the brazen statement about having "anyone" and everyone send more to him.

No problem. Just making sure it doesn't escalate into something it shouldn't. Like I said, I've been there. It really is a horrible thing to endure. The day of my fire, the store owner next to me said. "Good, now I'll own your property sooner" Everyone stepped back and thought I was going to kill him. I just walked away though. When people start to question your situation, it can be very hurtful if not worder very carefully. I understand that the members here are very cautious about motives and that's one reason I like the people here. I understand where you are coming from. No disrespect.

BTW I was insured but I was underinsured by over 65K. The only reason I was able to come back from the ashes is because I use to be a framer so I rebuilt with a couple friends instead of paying a contractor.

Hey Rich, next time check into renters insurance. It may be $200.00 to $300.00 a year but it's worth every penny. Do you need any Tee shirts? I get a bunch from vendors I could send you.
 
Man, moving a family of 6 halfway across the country into 1BR to help some cheap family members with bills on a house that was paid off, only to lose everything, is a tough break. With the guy who is now buying the house, are they at least going to help you out?
 
Man, moving a family of 6 halfway across the country into 1BR to help some cheap family members with bills on a house that was paid off, only to lose everything, is a tough break. With the guy who is now buying the house, are they at least going to help you out?


Nope no help from them, and actually it was 7 my mother-in-law moved with us
 
What was it in your bedroom that exploded?


From what I can figure the new bottle of Crown Royal black which I was going to crack open that night, various cans around the room, there was a 32 inch tv in the ent center and who knows what else. But thats what comes to mind as far as things that could of exploded. Not like anyone would want see them but I will post the pics in my gallery as soon get them off my phone.

Rich
 
I personally don't understand the need to post about one's grief on a forum you've been a member of for 3 months (and you made mention to being away for much of this time). ?[sup][/sup]

However, and this is not a disclaimer, I am genuinely sorry to hear that children had to go through something so horrific. Please take good care of them. You may even consider some professional help for them as it is most likely the most traumatic experience they've ever had.
 
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