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So Humi Minister what's on your mind?

souldog said:
Oh Brian, this is the only thing I can say:
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This thread has way too much man-love going on here... :angry: Take it to PM.
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Jon,

you finally decided to share your desktop picture with us :laugh:
 
JHolmes763 said:
I really think this should be handled like a court case. One of you guys who are against HM "sue" him for a "breach of the community trust" for example. A rotating FOG decides whether the initial accusation has enough merit to "go to court". The accuser and accused (or their chosen representative) can each issue one statement and one rebuttal. No one else chimes in or else they're held in contempt (punishment is to spend one night with Souldog ;)). After this it's put to a public vote for or against the accusation. Enough of a vote against the accused results in a ban. Fit right in with the self-moderated community if you ask me.

Also, sorry Jonesy. By "time for this again" I meant is it time again for the guys who think HM is a non-contributor to the community to rally behind some cause and attempt to get him to answer to the accusations to their satisfaction.

John
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I think this is a good idea for someone who warrants a possible ban. But I'm not sure "not getting it" is reason enough for a ban. Yes, I think HM's latest posting is asinine, self-serving, and downright useless, but not ban-worthy. Now, if you want to talk about his posting in the very beginning, that's a different story...
 
tomthirtysix said:
JHolmes763 said:
I really think this should be handled like a court case. One of you guys who are against HM "sue" him for a "breach of the community trust" for example. A rotating FOG decides whether the initial accusation has enough merit to "go to court". The accuser and accused (or their chosen representative) can each issue one statement and one rebuttal. No one else chimes in or else they're held in contempt (punishment is to spend one night with Souldog ;)). After this it's put to a public vote for or against the accusation. Enough of a vote against the accused results in a ban. Fit right in with the self-moderated community if you ask me.

Also, sorry Jonesy. By "time for this again" I meant is it time again for the guys who think HM is a non-contributor to the community to rally behind some cause and attempt to get him to answer to the accusations to their satisfaction.

John
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I think this is a good idea for someone who warrants a possible ban. But I'm not sure "not getting it" is reason enough for a ban. Yes, I think HM's latest posting is asinine, self-serving, and downright useless, but not ban-worthy. Now, if you want to talk about his posting in the very beginning, that's a different story...
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Admit it Tom you just want to sue his ass! :laugh:
 
tomthirtysix said:
Now, if you want to talk about his posting in the very beginning, that's a different story...
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That's what's driving all of this, isn't it? Along with his actions afterwards?

I mean, Doc "knew it all along" that HM was going pro and he's doing nothing but gouging the community and says in this thread "simply stated he's a cancer and needs to be gone." MMM refers to his asking for votes as "Shady character flaw, if not total scumbaggery." Souldog says he is "hooking in the buyer with claims of "paying it forward" and masking it with cigar exchanges to make the sucker feel like he's getting a deal" with reference to a $150 quote on an ashtray and later says "this guy just needs to be shown the door" with reference to his gouging on cedar chips. JFields says "HM will step in it again, it's only a matter of time", so it certainly sounds like more than the guy just not getting it. Rodrigo has been here since '07 and accuses HM of "deceived good folk along the way" which is more than just not getting it. Jayro says " we don't need to cover all the ways you've tried to take advantage of the membership" but maybe we do?


I don't have a dog in this fight and gives a fuck whether HM goes or not. I'm not completely happy with the way he handles things, but the same will be said of me by many of you.

I'm tired of the drama, the baiting in threads like this, the behind the scenes rallying at cigarsnobs, the bandwagoning (yes, it's happening), etc. Make your fucking case and convince the self-moderated community that he's a cancer or realize he's just someone you're not going to get along with and ignore each other.

-John
 
Hey JHolmes, if you insist on quoting member's posts, please provide links so that statements can be read in context to the original discussion. Also, you might want to ask Rod if discussing other cigar forum's issues here is kosher here as well.
 
JHolmes763 said:
I really think this should be handled like a court case. One of you guys who are against HM "sue" him for a "breach of the community trust" for example. A rotating FOG decides whether the initial accusation has enough merit to "go to court". The accuser and accused (or their chosen representative) can each issue one statement and one rebuttal. No one else chimes in or else they're held in contempt (punishment is to spend one night with Souldog ;)). After this it's put to a public vote for or against the accusation. Enough of a vote against the accused results in a ban. Fit right in with the self-moderated community if you ask me.
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Why you continually insist on changing a system that has so far worked quite well is beyond me.

If you don't like it here, why do you bother to log in? I for one am really tired of your "piss on it to make it smell better" attitude and honestly, I can't imagine why you hang out here if it's the f#@ked up mess you seem t think it is.

B.B.S.
 
BlindedByScience said:
I can't imagine why you hang out here if it's the f#@ked up mess you seem t think it is.
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No, this one situation is a f'd up mess that doesn't seem to be getting resolved in the year and a half it's been going on.

I don't think CP is a f'd up mess, as you imply. I think it's a great place, full of people I enjoy talking with and discussions I enjoy participating in. It's a place kept free of asshats and gougers on a relatively quick basis. I'm not looking to change the intent of the self-moderated community or CP in general. I just want to put a focus and hopefully an end to this ongoing issue that people have (with regards to HM).

-John

MilesMingusMonk said:
Hey JHolmes, if you insist on quoting member's posts, please provide links so that statements can be read in context to the original discussion. Also, you might want to ask Rod if discussing other cigar forum's issues here is kosher here as well.
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Sorry. Some quotes are from this thread. The others are from here. I think it's relevant because it's discussing CPs issues, just on another board. There is no discussion of the other forum's issues or what's going on there - only the situation at CP.

-John
 
What you fail to understand, Holmes, is your reputation as a malcontent and provocateur preclude you from being useful.

Doc.
 
You folks need some better things to do with your afternoons as this is way past ridiculous.
 
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