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Wasn't this dbag on some state's most wanted list? What is his full name and where is he wanted? Time to call Dog and see if he'll work the Mainland.

Yes and I filed a report last night. Problem is he is in KY and the warrant is in IN. Maybe one of the cops on the forum knows somebody in that area that could pick him up for the IN cops.

Hmm, looks like he's just wanted for a DUI, and most of the times thats a misdemeanor get a ticket and be released at the scene. Maybe Q can add some more insight as that's nearer to his coast than mine...

Dammit Greg, stop trusting so many people! :p Just kidding buddy, hopefully you get your sticks...
 
Thanks for the info Greg. This noob's gonna stay on CP turf for a long time. Lions, Tigers and Bears out there!! :0 Let's catch this worthless prick!
 
So, have you actually gotten the sticks yet or you just noticed the email after you paid? I believe you can "file a claim" with paypal and put that the item is "Not as described". You may have a decent chance of getting your money back through PP if you go about it this way.

Transaction done 10/10, claim filed 10/11. From what I was just told by PP, the funds are on hold until resolved, meaning I have to receive the items as described or else get my money back. So, I'm sure I'll get my money back. I just hope anyone else that sent funds to the scumbag can do the same.

I wouldn't trust pp with that. They told me the same thing after I reported some fraudulent activity in my account (ebay related) and an hour later I got an email notification from them that the transaction went through, and my money was sent, despite pp telling me that no money would leave my account.

I ran down to my bank, and they handled the whole thing, covering my account for what was lost so nothing would bounce until they got the money back from pp. Hopefully this all worls out for you.
 
I had my PP account hacked a while back. I called PP and had them freeze the transaction. I also called the bank and had them freeze my account. All pending charges that were swiped via-an actual debit card would still go through, however, wire transfers (which is what PP is classified as) would be denied. A few days later, I got an email from PP that said my transaction could not be completed and it would be cancelled. Once I got that, I had the bank un-freeze my account and everything was fine. Maybe look into these two options.
 
Good Lord Greg! that sucks beyond belief. Hopefully it works out to your favor and soon. And kudos for stepping forward with this for the community.



BBS... well said. Hopefully people read your post again and think about it! :thumbs:
 
Greg what did you buy from him via p.p. last time? Edit: Phone posting sucks.

I didn't, Ed (Spivy) did in the infamous OR Anejo/Opus buy.

I'm getting responses from the guy now, he's pissed because I filed a dispute against him with PP and his account is now frozen. :) He also stated that Ed (Spivy) was the one that screwed him out of $3,500.

I've asked him to please elaborate.

heh. I would love to hear how he spins that one. ;)
 
Greg what did you buy from him via p.p. last time? Edit: Phone posting sucks.

I didn't, Ed (Spivy) did in the infamous OR Anejo/Opus buy.

I'm getting responses from the guy now, he's pissed because I filed a dispute against him with PP and his account is now frozen. :) He also stated that Ed (Spivy) was the one that screwed him out of $3,500.

I've asked him to please elaborate.

heh. I would love to hear how he spins that one. ;)


I can't help but wonder, if spivy paid with paypal did he take steps to get his money back? It would seem like a simple action, either through paypal or his bank or credit company.
 
Joe, that is indeed an intriguing question. The trouble is, you can't believe one word out of this smokinj's mouth. But can we trust him to always lie? If you can, then word your question wisely and you soon shall know the answer.
 
Wasn't this dbag on some state's most wanted list? What is his full name and where is he wanted? Time to call Dog and see if he'll work the Mainland.

Yes and I filed a report last night. Problem is he is in KY and the warrant is in IN. Maybe one of the cops on the forum knows somebody in that area that could pick him up for the IN cops.

Hmm, looks like he's just wanted for a DUI, and most of the times thats a misdemeanor get a ticket and be released at the scene. Maybe Q can add some more insight as that's nearer to his coast than mine...

Dammit Greg, stop trusting so many people! :p Just kidding buddy, hopefully you get your sticks...

On my side, it varies by agency. My department will do anywhere in the state of Ga. But our Sheriff's office will go to Alaska and beyond to pick someone up on an outstanding warrant. Best thing I can say is locate the town he's in in KY and speak with the local law enforcement. I may be able to help with that. If Greg wants to pursue it he can get a report done at his local police/sheriff's office, and get the ball rolling with that (if the sale goes bad in the end, because it is a fraud offense). I can give a call to the detectives in the town there, and maybe ask for a little help in apprehending him. If not for Greg's incident, but just to get this dirtbag off the internet and into a cell.

Edited to add: Does anyone know if he is using "David Scott" as an alias, and are we 100% positive it's the same person? Just wanting make sure before I start digging any further. (don't really have anything going on at work, so I'm working this case. :thumbs: )
 
Sorry to hear about this Greg. Thanks for sharing the info. I was wondering the same thing about the cigar transaction but it sounds like it happens a lot. I am VERY curious as to the SPIVY situation and hope you can get any/all of your $ back.
 
Edited to add: Does anyone know if he is using "David Scott" as an alias, and are we 100% positive it's the same person? Just wanting make sure before I start digging any further. (don't really have anything going on at work, so I'm working this case. :thumbs: )

That's my problem with this whole deal Q, is that we're operating off such shit information. Yeah, an email goes back to a "David Scott," who happens to have a Mary warrant, but it's a bit rough being 100% that smokinj really is Mr. Scott. Based on the totality of the circs, if this guy has been at it for the past 6 years defrauding cigar connoisseurs on various boards with an electronic footprint on every transaction, I wonder if he would be that stupid to use his real name. Undoubtedly someone else, somewhere, at an unknown time, had a group of buddies looking up one of smokinj's aliases before when they got ripped, and may have come up with the same info. we are looking at now.


But, I'm just conjecturing at this point. I know where you're coming from in terms of your word, and calling down the entire blue cavalry on Mr. Scott for a simple misdemeanor warrant based on hearsay and an email address, because you want to be sure. Let me know how it turns out and if you need me for anything.
 
Edited to add: Does anyone know if he is using "David Scott" as an alias, and are we 100% positive it's the same person? Just wanting make sure before I start digging any further. (don't really have anything going on at work, so I'm working this case. :thumbs: )

That's my problem with this whole deal Q, is that we're operating off such shit information. Yeah, an email goes back to a "David Scott," who happens to have a Mary warrant, but it's a bit rough being 100% that smokinj really is Mr. Scott. Based on the totality of the circs, if this guy has been at it for the past 6 years defrauding cigar connoisseurs on various boards with an electronic footprint on every transaction, I wonder if he would be that stupid to use his real name. Undoubtedly someone else, somewhere, at an unknown time, had a group of buddies looking up one of smokinj's aliases before when they got ripped, and may have come up with the same info. we are looking at now.


But, I'm just conjecturing at this point. I know where you're coming from in terms of your word, and calling down the entire blue cavalry on Mr. Scott for a simple misdemeanor warrant based on hearsay and an email address, because you want to be sure. Let me know how it turns out and if you need me for anything.


One of my concerns at this point, is that the reverse e-mail look up, said he was 39. Mr. Kruthoffer is listed as 32 (on his warrant). Of course he could be lying, but that is one discrepancy. It seems he hasn't logged onto that email address since Sept. 19th, or near that date (that's the last date it shows any activity). I'm still digging though. I'll keep you guys informed.
 
From Scumbag list

abehoff
AKA jm9er, markallenville, thebillboardman, smokinj, usmcsmokinj, “Brose”
Girlfriend is 'Cigargirl'
John Kruthoffer
AKA 'David Scott', 'Mark Allen' (brother's name)
Lexington, KY dscottusmc@yahoo.com & brose1411@gmail.com – Yahoo scammer, has sold repackaged 'original release' Añejos (really just normal release with the cedar off, stuffed into old cello), amongst other scams – White Pages & Google



From Moki


John M Kruthoffer
2117 Broadhead Pl
Lexington, KY 40515-1108

David Scott aka-Smokinj
2117 Broadhead Place
Lexington, KY. 40515
 
I forwarded all the info I've obtained to the Detectives in Indiana, and also Fayette CO. SO (Lexington KY) The detectives will call me back once they decided if they would extradite or try at all to locate him over there. I'll keep you guys posted.

Keep your fingers crossed. :thumbs:
 
I forwarded all the info I've obtained to the Detectives in Indiana, and also Fayette CO. SO (Lexington KY) The detectives will call me back once they decided if they would extradite or try at all to locate him over there. I'll keep you guys posted.

Keep your fingers crossed. :thumbs:
Nice work Q! :thumbs:
 
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