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Post Here when you receive your Cigar from VITASEA

Well, I'll be smoking the CoRo, I got tommorrow, is it from the same box as eric's?

Also, anyone get anything other than cohibas?
 
vitasea said:
you have not had a kind thing to say about me since i arrived on this board and quite frankly i expected a bad review from you

:: shrug :: You're welcome to think what you want; I actually tried to help you, both here and via email. If these cigars were real, I would have said so -- but they aren't.

It isn't just me; SamClemmons had a dramatically similar opinion of the "Esplendido" that you sent him; but I won't put words in his mouth, read his review of it here.

i know well were me cigars come from and its not a farm source
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Fair enough; as Matt alluded to earlier, you can't easily change someone's mind about such things. Best of luck to you. Just don't do what Cohibin did ;)
 
vitasea said:
i have never seen a cuban cigar smoke like that ,i will send you another in a shipping box to retest
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Not necessary, but thanks for the offer
 
It seems like a good time to re-post this...

from: http://www.shortcut-cigars.com/en/content/...feit_cigars.htm


• A friend back from Cuba gives you a box of Cohiba, Partagas, Montecristo, etc. at half the official price.
There's some serious chance that your cigars are not made by Habanos.

• You bought cigars directly from someone working at the factory?
This is not a guarantee. The cigars could be false as well.

• The dealer is a torcedor and he picked up your box directely at the factory.
Once again, this does not at all guarantee the authenticity of your cigars.

In Cuba, the trade of counterfeit cigars is very significant. Practically all cigars sold in the street are counterfeit merchandise.

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Counterfeit cigars in Cuba too

The counterfeit cigar is also a problem in Cuba. The only way to get true cigars is to buy them at the official stores. Indeed, Havana hides many workshops producing counterfeits cigars and a huge network of retailers. Practically all the cigars resulting from these parallel networks are imitations.

Non-official Havana cigars made in the factory

Good to know: In Cuba, each torcedor can roll cigars for his personal use on his own time. He can do this at work and with his own tobacco. Thus, you could buy a box directly from a torcedor, at the entrance of the factory, and get counterfeit cigars.


How good or bad is an imitation?

A counterfeit cigar will not be inevitably bad; You can find various qualities on the parallel market. Some are not smokable, stuffed with paper and reject material, or quite simply badly rolled, and others can be done with cuban tobacco and of good quality.

The cost of a counterfeit cigar

Should you travel to Cuba or elsewhere, if you plan to buy cigars directly from someone at a very (too) attractive price, and through the non official market, the point is to buy these cigars for what they are (most probably imitations) and pay for your box accordingly. If you pay 30 $US a box, then okay, that's a good deal.

Why does a counterfeit cigar in Cuba should be different than official Havana cigars?

Just like some prestigious French wines, the Havana is the result of complex procedures and know-how. In all this process, let's just mention the selection of particular tobaccos by the expert of the factory, blend of 3 types of leaves (ligero, seco and volado) in a way that will give to the cigar its identity and a taste in conformity with the brand.

If I could have the opportunuty to take care of a single vine in the best French vineyard, I would not for sure produce an exceptionnal wine, even with the best conditions. The same applies to the counterfeit cigars in Cuba: You could find there some suitable and even tasty cigars, but keep in mind that they will be completely different than the brand printed on the box.

Yes you can buy some Cohiba, Montecristo or whatever from the grey market, but do not pay more than 20 or 30$ a box (and definitely not 300$!). Smoke your cigars for what they are: modest (and maybe interesting) cigars but not Espendidos

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...and of course, there is the old stand-by:

http://www.cigarnexus.com/counsel/counterfeit/index.html
 
Yes I would like to sell some cigars and contribute to this forum. I’m retired and have a large sail boat in FL that I cannot afford. For the past 5 years I have delivered tons of meds, medical equipment, clothes personal care items to Cuba. Selling cigars supports this work which I think is very important.

One year I got 300 t-shirts donated be cause of a printing error on them. There were 20 med 20 lg and the rest xl,xxl xxxl,they were huge, Anyway my Cuban Dr friend said this is great we can use these as gowns in the childrens ward which they did. It was heart warming to see a room full of kids with Mutual of Omaha t-shirts on. I have a lot of letters from Drs thanking me for what I do. Dr Gilberto who is a thoracic surgeon is lucky to have aspirin to admister to his patients. Medical care is free in Cuba but very little drugs are available, sure you buy them at a government pharmacy but few people can afford them.

So that’s my story believe it or not, by the way I have received PM’s from members that liked my samples,
 
vitasea said:
So that’s my story believe it or not, by the way I have received PM’s from members that liked my samples,
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Yep, I know KayakinBoy liked the CoRo you sent him (which I didn't taste, my comments are restricted to the Esplendido that you sent me). I can't comment on that cigar, I didn't try it -- but I've had some known-fakes that were pretty good cigars actually, and it's also possible that the CoRo's are real -- I've no idea.
 
I liked the CoRo, and I believe me and Vitasea are doing a trade. I want to try the other cigars people received to see what I think of those.

KB
 
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