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[cohibasurfer]

Obiviously Lumberg you weren't following the posts in this thread and all around the board? All the quanity for quality threads being posted? The post are plain as day.

 

[Lumberg]

thanks blair... It's easier thank going back looking for it....

What are you thanking me for? I didn't do anything!

Fatshot, excellent puts and takes!! Very generous. HOWEVER, there is still time to take the BTL. If you want it, make a trade. I didn't mean to imply that it is off-limits. In fact, I'm a little worried that this pass has taken on a serious tone and that is the last thing that I wanted when I started it. My intentions were to make a quite laid back pass and we've kinda gone the other way (albeit, perhaps necessarily.) Either way, I don't want anyone to sweat their p and t's too much. The idea is to just make it fair and you, and everyone else thus far, have gone way WAY above and beyond. THAT IS VERY APPRECIATED. Still, at the same time I don't want those who follow (i.e. those who are further down the mailing list) to think that this is what must be done. Most do - because we have a very generous group here at CP - but it isn't a requirement. As an example, coventrycat is currently swamped in passes. If you're in four simulataneous passes and you over-put on every one of them it takes to fun out of it. You've deleted your stock! So, long post-short - everyone, just have fun with it. If you are in a giving mood, then by all means give! But, don't put in a penny extra because you feel as though you have to.

Again, great puts Fatshot. And thanks for the host cigar! I love a surprise !


blair

Cohiba I do not appreciate your tone. I can read and comprehend as well as you can. Why dont' you let someone who actually has a take in this pass answer this question rather than revert to your "**** stirring" ways?

 

[cohibasurfer]

Lumberg.... I am in this pass. :0
But that has absolutely nothing to do with it. And my tone is all in your head. I am simply stating the facts as everyone here can attest.
The post quote you provided means what? Exactly what does that support?

And I'm not trying to stir any "****". You are greatly mistaken there. However I'm not suprised by your responses in the least. It never fails when someone isn't curtious enough to accept corrective critisism, they lash out and point fingers at others. You need to check yourself.

I'll will however let some of the others here post there oipinion on this, instead of argue with you myself. I don't think your going to get any help though.

 

[Bobbyson1a]

I don't know whether or not it is necessary to mention this, but I got a pm regarding the BTL that Phil put and well... Be careful trading the BTL - Because of its rarity (there are very few boxes of these released annually), it is one those cigars that can't be traded by a price-to-price match. In my opinion no Opux X would match this one.

I say this, not only because I am hoping to end up with it   :sign:, but because of the recent attention that has been paid to square dealing. Price-to-price isn't always the only factor to consider. This cigar is a good example.

That having been said, feel free to make a trade for it if you have a qualifying cigar. The cigar was (very generously) donated by Phil for the box pass and it should be treated as fair game. I only want to address the fact that price and rarity come into play with this one!

Thanks!!! 

???

I thought that two Opi for one BTL was a fair trade. The rest of the puts cover the rest of the takes IMO.

Anyways I have the pass and will be looking through it shortly. My internet was broken all weekend and it just got fiexed and I have a ton of things to do today.

JC

I'm have to agree with cohibasurfer the BTLs is very hard to get.
and like you said 2 for 1 is quanity for quality. IMHO

 

[blair]

I'm also going to have to go with Cohiba on this one. Especially because I specifically said

Be careful trading the BTL - Because of its rarity (there are very few boxes of these released annually), it is one those cigars that can't be traded by a price-to-price match. In my opinion no Opux X would match this one.

I want PhatAsh to have the cigar; but only if he has a (single) cigar to match its caliber. Quality for quality has been a well-established rule around here (i.e. CP, not just this pass) lately.



Frankly, I would never have expected that this pass would see such great cigars. But, thanks to its amazing participants, it has taken a turn towards a high-end pass.

 

[vewyphishy]

I think the BTL's rarity is without question... but in terms of quality, they're about the same. In fact, I'd even say the Opi are better in that regards. Just something to think about.

 

[Phil]

I think the BTL's rarity is without question... but in terms of quality, they're about the same. In fact, I'd even say the Opi are better in that regards. Just something to think about.

Okay folks if you want my .02 on this here it is.


I put the BTL in this pass to add a bit of that really high "quality" that we all love.

The hemmingway BTL is a "rare" cigar and there are many people who will go to great lengths for just one of them.

Putting two opus instead of the BTL is diluting that quality. We ALL KNOW what kind of cigars should be put in place of the BTL if it is taken and an opus is not one of them.

I know folks who compare OR's will ashton aged maduro's, but he damn well knows not to replace one with the other in a pass unless it favors the pass.

COME ON FOLKS, I DIDNT THINK PUTTING A NICE CIGAR IN A PASS WOULD CAUSE ANY TROUBLE!!!!!!!

Phatash - if you have a rare cigar now is the time to cough it up IMO, I put that in the pass to make sure that the rarity of the BTL makes it back to Blair, I didnt care if it was the BTL or another cigar, but the rarity should be equal if not (what I really expected) to take the BTL and replace it with a cigar that would INCREASE the rarity of it.

I would like to see SOMETHING done about this.

Phil

 

[Lumberg]

Well he has already given the pass to me. I will put in a PAM 1926 to cover the BTL, in addition to my own puts and takes. I don't expect anything in return.

 

[Lumberg]

Lumberg.... I am in this pass. :0
But that has absolutely nothing to do with it. And my tone is all in your head. I am simply stating the facts as everyone here can attest.
The post quote you provided means what? Exactly what does that support?

And I'm not trying to stir any "****". You are greatly mistaken there. However I'm not suprised by your responses in the least. It never fails when someone isn't curtious enough to accept corrective critisism, they lash out and point fingers at others. You need to check yourself.

I'll will however let some of the others here post there oipinion on this, instead of argue with you myself. I don't think your going to get any help though.

When you say "Obiviously (sic) Lumberg you weren't following the posts in this thread and all around the board? All the quanity for quality threads being posted? The post(sic) are plain as day." That is less than respectful. That is what I was referring to when I said that I do not appreciate your tone.

When I said "let someone who actually has a (s)take in this pass answer this question" I meant someone who would still have had the opportunity to get the BTL.

Third of all the quote I used, specifically this part: "If you want it, make a trade. I didn't mean to imply that it is off-limits. In fact, I'm a little worried that this pass has taken on a serious tone and that is the last thing that I wanted when I started it. My intentions were to make a quite laid back pass and we've kinda gone the other way (albeit, perhaps necessarily.) Either way, I don't want anyone to sweat their p and t's too much." was basically a counter point to your quote which was the more serious side of the pass.

Either way I'm wrong, you're right. The host is spoken, end of story.

 

[Lumberg]

Oh just wanted to say I think the packaging of the pass is really well done. I think the map in particular is a nice touch.

As far the the next hand-off, Frank and I spoke of trying to meet mid-week. Not sure how well that will work for me as I am away at work for 10-11 hours a day. Are we going to try to do a VA pass close-out herf?

 

[cohibasurfer]

Bing.... boing.... bong....



Phatash, PM me when you get a chance bro! Thanks.

 

[blair]

Oh just wanted to say I think the packaging of the pass is really well done. I think the map in particular is a nice touch.

Hey, thanks man!!

 

[DaveWF]

Wait a second... a PAM 1926 for a BTL?? :lookup:

In that case, I have a 1926 aging nicely in the humidor - someone care to trade a BTL for it?

Dave

 

[Bobbyson1a]

:sign:

 

[blair]

The 1926's though don't even match price-for-price, do they? I may not be looking in the right place, but they seem to be about $20 whereas the BTL about $35. Is that right? Also, the 1926's are hard to find but are they as illusive as our BTL?

Regarding the 1926, I had actually already commented on it as trade for the BTL ??? The '26 just doesn't seem to stack up to the BTL. I think the '26 is far more common than the BTL. It's a GREAT smoke, but comparatively common.

 

[Lumberg]

Well if it doesnt' cut it PhatAsh is just going to have to send the BTL back because a PAM 1926 is the "best" cigar I have. I did see a BTL traded for a UTSM, of which I have several, but I think a 1926 is better.

 

[DaveWF]

hate to show my ignorance, but what's a UTSM?

Dave

 

[Bobbyson1a]

hate to show my ignorance, but what's a UTSM?

Dave

AF Un Told Story Maduro

 

[Toaster]

Let me start with I have already played in "pass", and as a player- completed or future, I feel my voice should be heard and has merit (in this pass anyways )

I considered taking the BTL also- but made sure to check with a few fogs around here who were more knowledgable than I, to ask what would be a fair put for that take... The answers were basically DO NOT TAKE THE BTL! And honestly the best thing I could have done was to ask around, and thanks to the generosity of some fine BOTL- well it all worked out for me (thanks, you know who you are and you can chime in if you choose )

I know I don't personally stock anything as rare as the BTL, and honesty I think the best play would be to return the stick I'm sorry to say. :lookup:

But thats my $0.02
:thumbs: Toaster

 

[Toaster]

hate to show my ignorance, but what's a UTSM?

Dave

I hate those anagram games with cigars around here :lookup:

I'm looking to trade a pam woam coro for a utsm m.i.c.k.e.y.m.o.u.s.e.