Medical Marijuana

[BigJake6904]

The world is just better off without it, IMO.

 

[bfreebern]

I think all of you need to partake and chill the hell out, with a bag of cheetos.

 

[jfields]

The world is just better off without it, IMO.

There's a lot of people who say the same thing about tobacco and are working hard to make it happen.


I prefer to live by the "To each his own" mantra myself. As long as what somebody does is not hurting me directly, I figure who am I to judge.

I think all of you need to partake and chill the hell out, with a bag of cheetos.

Then watch some porn and wonder why our dicks are turning orange.

 

[stepthirteen]

I think all of you need to partake and chill the hell out, with a bag of cheetos.

Oh how I loved the munchies :love: after blazing up. Too bad a few hours later I was doing meth, had sunburned finger tips from peaking out the window, and had the doors of the house taped shut :0 :laugh:.

Jim

 

[bfreebern]

I think all of you need to partake and chill the hell out, with a bag of cheetos.

Oh how I loved the munchies :love: after blazing up. Too bad a few hours later I was doing meth, had sunburned finger tips from peaking out the window, and had the doors of the house taped shut :0 :laugh:.

Jim

Ok, then you can partake in a Padron Millenium, minus the foil hat.

 

[Goldie]

I have seen a few programs on medical marijuana, and have to say I am really surprised other states aren't jumping on that tax dollar band wagon. One show that I saw had the proprietor of a medical marijuana shop saying his shop produces tax dollars in the tens of millions (It might have even been in the hundred mark, but I cannot remember for certain). I do not smoke weed myself, but I don't think there is anything wrong with it. If someone wants to, have at it. I know that there is a lot more to the idea of legalizing, and taxing, than just doing it, but I would like to see it legalized and taxed.

On one show I saw a senator made a comment to the effect of, lets take the profit from the drug dealers, and put them out of business. And I agree.

 

[BigJake6904]

The world is just better off without it, IMO.

There's a lot of people who say the same thing about tobacco and are working hard to make it happen.


I prefer to live by the "To each his own" mantra myself. As long as what somebody does is not hurting me directly, I figure who am I to judge.

I never judged anyone with my statement, John. In fact, it was quite the opposite. What I meant...and hopefully this is more clear so that it's not misinterpreted...was due to the headaches and legality issues associated with the substance that were previously discussed in the thread. For example, Jon's comments earlier on the State of California's laws vs. Federal laws.

I'll leave it at that in order to keep clear of political discussion. Just know that I was, in no way, addressing or judging someone's choices and I too believe in the "To each his own" mantra.

 

[jfields]

Didn't mean for my comment to be taken as I thought you were judging others Jake.

That was directed more toward the anti smoking establishment and how they tend to get a little overzealous with the cause.

 

[DirtyDave]

For or against, I don't care. I'm with Doc on this one. Here is something biologically to think about. Alcohol affects your dopamine receptors in the brain. These are present in about 90% of your brain cells. This leads to the highly addictive nature of alcohol. This isn't even getting into the fact that it can shut down your most basic functions, stopping your heart or breathing in large doses.

The reason it is stated that "Pot can't kill you" is because it functions very differently in the brain. It only affects one receptor, the CB1 receptor. This receptor is named this because until the early 1990's the only thing that scientists could find that worked on it was THC or cannibis. They did find a naturally occuring chemical in the brain that was named anadamide that works on these receptors as well. It is chemically very similar to THC. The CB1 receptors are much less prevalent in the brain and do not inhibit any of your basic biological functions. A more accurate statement would be "Nobody has ever overdosed on pot." Biologically speaking, it is impossible to OD on marijuana. That is not saying that long term smoking will not have ill effects though.

To each their own.

 

[stepthirteen]

For or against, I don't care. I'm with Doc on this one. Here is something biologically to think about. Alcohol affects your dopamine receptors in the brain. These are present in about 90% of your brain cells. This leads to the highly addictive nature of alcohol. This isn't even getting into the fact that it can shut down your most basic functions, stopping your heart or breathing in large doses.

The reason it is stated that "Pot can't kill you" is because it functions very differently in the brain. It only affects one receptor, the CB1 receptor. This receptor is named this because until the early 1990's the only thing that scientists could find that worked on it was THC or cannibis. They did find a naturally occuring chemical in the brain that was named anadamide that works on these receptors as well. It is chemically very similar to THC. The CB1 receptors are much less prevalent in the brain and do not inhibit any of your basic biological functions. A more accurate statement would be "Nobody has ever overdosed on pot." Biologically speaking, it is impossible to OD on marijuana. That is not saying that long term smoking will not have ill effects though.

To each their own.

Excellent post! Thank you!!

Jim

 

[DirtyDave]

For or against, I don't care. I'm with Doc on this one. Here is something biologically to think about. Alcohol affects your dopamine receptors in the brain. These are present in about 90% of your brain cells. This leads to the highly addictive nature of alcohol. This isn't even getting into the fact that it can shut down your most basic functions, stopping your heart or breathing in large doses.

The reason it is stated that "Pot can't kill you" is because it functions very differently in the brain. It only affects one receptor, the CB1 receptor. This receptor is named this because until the early 1990's the only thing that scientists could find that worked on it was THC or cannibis. They did find a naturally occuring chemical in the brain that was named anadamide that works on these receptors as well. It is chemically very similar to THC. The CB1 receptors are much less prevalent in the brain and do not inhibit any of your basic biological functions. A more accurate statement would be "Nobody has ever overdosed on pot." Biologically speaking, it is impossible to OD on marijuana. That is not saying that long term smoking will not have ill effects though.

To each their own.

Excellent post! Thank you!!

Jim

Thanks Jim, I was channeling my Neuropsych Professor from college on that one. He did a lot of research into the effects of THC on the brain (in the lab ) It is very interesting stuff.

 

[ELittle]

I had a card, I don't have it anymore and don't smoke it anymore. It's crazy walking into those dispensaries and it's like a weed supermarket. 35 kinds of weed, hash, hash oils, cookies, brownies, pre rolled joints, some even sell seeds, baby plants, clones and growing equipment. This one I went to even taught classes on how to grow/harvest/trim your weed! Crazy stuff!

 

[PJ the Comic]

CNBC has a one hour long special report titled "Marijuana Inc." It explores in depth the legalization of the weed, the violation and misuse of public lands namely state parks to grow the stuff in large quantities, and the direct economic impact on the emerald triangle in northern California. The area in San Fransisco with a plethora of weed dispensaries is named New Oaksterdam I seem to recall. It is a riveting special I highly recommend. There was a different special on msnbc recently exploring a Canadian entrepreneur $1 Million + grow operation sanctioned by his government.

The scary part is it may not be long before we have to buy our cigars from a Mexican cartel in order to circumvent ridiculous regulation meant to increase the nanny states power over all of us sheep.

To each his own. Make it legal and the American farmer might actually be able to make enough money to feed his family without federally subsidized growing regulations.

Let us also not forget that the founding fathers of our country were hemp farmers. An acre of hemp requires 1/10 the fertilizer and chemical inputs as compared to cotton. That same acre uses less water and would produce a higher quality cloth or rope than cotton. One of the reasons it is not allowed is simply the physical identification of the plant that produces thc as compared to a plant that would produce cloth, paper, or rope is almost impossible to a non-botanist. I think it grows wild in parts of the upper mid-west.

Or so I have been reading :whistling:

PJ

 

[Yeahthatsme]

The benefits of hemp are really insane once you get into it, but it would bring some serious changes in our country if it was grown in large amounts. I'll be interested to see what happens in the next few months/years with the legalization of marijuana.

 

[Joho]

The topic of marijuana in law is very relevant to my interests, and I do recall taking a very careful look at many of the aforementioned studies.

Many of these studies are not scientifically conclusive in order to make some of the general statements that you guys have mentioned; if I remember correctly, an Australian study had the test subjects smoking 10+ joints a day--that's just an ungodly amount of marijuana and quite uncommon. Others are inconclusive or later disproved. The issue with schizophrenia, if I do recall, was that marijuana affected those who were already at risk for the disease; marijuana usage could not cause schizophrenia in just any person.

Smoking anything is bad for your lungs, and smoking marijuana is not harmless. It is simply a lot less serious than the media and general public make it out to be; of course it should definitely not be taken lightly, either. Marijuana does have the ability to impair judgment and perception, and may have adverse effects on those who are predisposed to mental illness, and should only be used responsibly and where needed if at all...but it is certainly not something that is even worth the government spending the money they do in trying to keep it away from everybody. Damn, I personally think that alone is enough reason for the government to just drop it.

To each his own, eh?

 

[StinkiMonki]

What a fun topic.

A great deal of my law practice involves marijuana offenses and I'm also on the NORML Legal Committee. I'm current on all the pot laws in CA and how the Feds crossover on certain issues. If anyone has a question on pot in CA feel free to ask me.

Geoff