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Looks like I got screwed.

Well scthornton is on-line and viewing the board, but have yet to see any commentary or update on this matter. :whistling:

This is the first time I have seen this thread today, I didn't see it this morning. I sent a tracking number on Monday to Les. I also threw in a box of RP 92s in glass tubes, a handful of nice ISOMs and a few extras to say I'm sorry for not getting these out in a timely manor and for not replying to one of his messages.
 
OK, this was posted on Saturday. On Monday we should have seen a tracking number be it USPS or UPS or FedEx or DHL....something and it should be taken care of (delivered) by today. Since You have internet access you could have arranged the delivery by any of those services and it doesn't matter where you are. Post Offices, mail boxes and delivery service drop off points are in or near any damn hotel in the country.

However, it is now the 5th day since you said "...and it will be taken care of" and nothing has been posted to show it was. I can't speak for anybody else but this total lack of regard has put you on my permanent shit list and I will advise any and all never to do business with you in any way, shape or form. Realistically, if this isn't completed by close of business tomorrow, you''re done here and I won't lose any sleep over that either.

This is my fault, however you cut and it will be taken care of. I'm not making excuses. I do travel everyday and am gone during the week, whether you choose to believe that or not, I will not lose sleep.

Ditto. Scthornton has had his attention called to this thread on multiple instances today, even within other threads that he was seen viewing. His continued lack of response/update on this matter is just outright bullshit, and a total lack of respect and integrity...not only towards the BOTLS/SOTLS here, but also towards himself and his reputation. Complete cowardice from the get-go.

I don't know how you came up with that, this is the first I read this thread today, so I wasn't dodging this issue. You talk a lot of shit...
 
Well scthornton is on-line and viewing the board, but have yet to see any commentary or update on this matter. :whistling:

This is the first time I have seen this thread today, I didn't see it this morning.

Hmm, You didn't see it because you didn't want to look. You knew that the membership has been expecting word from you since Monday. You didn't see it because you didn't want to see it.


And this

...to say I'm sorry for not getting these out in a timely manor and for not replying to one of his messages.

looks like you're minimizing your failure to respond.

One: it was absolutely unnecessary to make such a qualification.

TWO: interscape said it was more than one.

... and PM’s [plural] are no longer returned. FedEx says from his zip to mine the longest time is 4 days. This sucks.

Les
 
You talk a lot of shit...

Your future looks dim. :(

Why? Because MC has continually insulted me? I responded to this thread immediately once notified, explained what happened, aplogized, admitted I was wrong, rectified the situation and on top of it, included an extra +$150 worth of cigars because I did feel bad...and also, have yet to cash his check because I want to make sure he's happy.

I'm not going to let someone sit and call me a coward and talk shit about me over and over like others have done here over a mistake that I am fixing...

Call it what you want, but I have taken the beating here for my mistake and have resolved the situation. The insults can stop...
 
Well scthornton is on-line and viewing the board, but have yet to see any commentary or update on this matter. :whistling:

This is the first time I have seen this thread today, I didn't see it this morning.

Hmm, You didn't see it because you didn't want to look. You knew that the membership has been expecting word from you since Monday. You didn't see it because you didn't want to see it.


And this

...to say I'm sorry for not getting these out in a timely manor and for not replying to one of his messages.

looks like you're minimizing your failure to respond.

One: it was absolutely unnecessary to make such a qualification.

TWO: interscape said it was more than one.

... and PM’s [plural] are no longer returned. FedEx says from his zip to mine the longest time is 4 days. This sucks.

Les

No, I'm not trying to minimize it. I neglected to reply to a message sent to me May 17 2007, 10:08 PM. I responded to all of his others. It was a bad time to not respond because this problem was way past due...
 
You talk a lot of shit...

Your future looks dim. :(

Why? Because MC has continually insulted me? I responded to this thread immediately once notified, explained what happened, aplogized, admitted I was wrong, rectified the situation and on top of it, included an extra +$150 worth of cigars because I did feel bad...and also, have yet to cash his check because I want to make sure he's happy.

I'm not going to let someone sit and call me a coward and talk shit about me over and over like others have done here over a mistake that I am fixing...

Call it what you want, but I have taken the beating here for my mistake and have resolved the situation. The insults can stop...

scthornton did PM me the number Monday and we have left it at that. Has not failed to communicate in anyway since this tread started.

:edit for grammer
 
You talk a lot of shit...

Your future looks dim. :(

Why? Because MC has continually insulted me? I responded to this thread immediately once notified, explained what happened, aplogized, admitted I was wrong, rectified the situation and on top of it, included an extra +$150 worth of cigars because I did feel bad...and also, have yet to cash his check because I want to make sure he's happy.

I'm not going to let someone sit and call me a coward and talk shit about me over and over like others have done here over a mistake that I am fixing...

Call it what you want, but I have taken the beating here for my mistake and have resolved the situation. The insults can stop...


I'm sure if that's true he'll be very happy with an extra $150 worth of late cigars but this transaction is no longer between the two of you. It's now a matter between you and the entire membership of CP. If you don't care for what is being said then I suggest you accept your responsibility to ALL OF US as well your responsibility to interscape.
 
You talk a lot of shit...

Your future looks dim. :(

Why? Because MC has continually insulted me? I responded to this thread immediately once notified, explained what happened, aplogized, admitted I was wrong, rectified the situation and on top of it, included an extra +$150 worth of cigars because I did feel bad...and also, have yet to cash his check because I want to make sure he's happy.

I'm not going to let someone sit and call me a coward and talk shit about me over and over like others have done here over a mistake that I am fixing...

Call it what you want, but I have taken the beating here for my mistake and have resolved the situation. The insults can stop...
No one here has insulted you " over a mistake that I am fixing " or anything else. What has happened is the failure to communicate and to properly finish a transaction that should have been done a long time ago regardless of your excuses. If you were at all worried about your reputation or the integrity of this board, then you should have posted your confirmation # the second you had it. Then you state that "I responded to THIS THREAD immediately once notified ", but you couldn't respond to Les until you were called out by Rod ? Seems to me you need to rectify this situation with quite a few more people other than Les now that you've started piling it on MC for him stating what most everyone else on this board already feels about you. " I'm not going to let someone sit and call me a coward and talk shit about me over and over"...........My response to that is, if you don't like it here go somewhere else because at this point with what you've just pulled with MC, nobody gives a shit what you think. JMHO.
 
You talk a lot of shit...

Your future looks dim. :(

Why? Because MC has continually insulted me? I responded to this thread immediately once notified, explained what happened, aplogized, admitted I was wrong, rectified the situation and on top of it, included an extra +$150 worth of cigars because I did feel bad...and also, have yet to cash his check because I want to make sure he's happy.

I'm not going to let someone sit and call me a coward and talk shit about me over and over like others have done here over a mistake that I am fixing...

Call it what you want, but I have taken the beating here for my mistake and have resolved the situation. The insults can stop...
No one here has insulted you " over a mistake that I am fixing " or anything else. What has happened is the failure to communicate and to properly finish a transaction that should have been done a long time ago regardless of your excuses. If you were at all worried about your reputation or the integrity of this board, then you should have posted your confirmation # the second you had it. Then you state that "I responded to THIS THREAD immediately once notified ", but you couldn't respond to Les until you were called out by Rod ? Seems to me you need to rectify this situation with quite a few more people other than Les now that you've started piling it on MC for him stating what most everyone else on this board already feels about you. " I'm not going to let someone sit and call me a coward and talk shit about me over and over"...........My response to that is, if you don't like it here go somewhere else because at this point with what you've just pulled with MC, nobody gives a shit what you think. JMHO.


Actually, I have been insulted, quite a bit. I did not directly insult or do anything wrong towards MC. I simply stated that he talks a lot of shit, which if you read his posts in this thread, is true. Many posts here haven't tried to recitify the situation, but more have bashed me. I found out about this thread from AVB, who sent me a PM notifying me about it. I responded immediately and have communicated with Les the details surrounding this. I have tried to do what I can to make up for my mistake. I have done all I can to resolve this problem. If Les isn't happy, then I have already told him I will fix it. If he is not happy with the cigars, I am going to mail his check back to him, uncashed.
 
You talk a lot of shit...

Your future looks dim. :(

Why? Because MC has continually insulted me? I responded to this thread immediately once notified, explained what happened, aplogized, admitted I was wrong, rectified the situation and on top of it, included an extra +$150 worth of cigars because I did feel bad...and also, have yet to cash his check because I want to make sure he's happy.

I'm not going to let someone sit and call me a coward and talk shit about me over and over like others have done here over a mistake that I am fixing...

Call it what you want, but I have taken the beating here for my mistake and have resolved the situation. The insults can stop...
No one here has insulted you " over a mistake that I am fixing " or anything else. What has happened is the failure to communicate and to properly finish a transaction that should have been done a long time ago regardless of your excuses. If you were at all worried about your reputation or the integrity of this board, then you should have posted your confirmation # the second you had it. Then you state that "I responded to THIS THREAD immediately once notified ", but you couldn't respond to Les until you were called out by Rod ? Seems to me you need to rectify this situation with quite a few more people other than Les now that you've started piling it on MC for him stating what most everyone else on this board already feels about you. " I'm not going to let someone sit and call me a coward and talk shit about me over and over"...........My response to that is, if you don't like it here go somewhere else because at this point with what you've just pulled with MC, nobody gives a shit what you think. JMHO.


Actually, I have been insulted, quite a bit. I did not directly insult or do anything wrong towards MC. I simply stated that he talks a lot of shit, which if you read his posts in this thread, is true. Many posts here haven't tried to recitify the situation, but more have bashed me. I found out about this thread from AVB, who sent me a PM notifying me about it. I responded immediately and have communicated with Les the details surrounding this. I have tried to do what I can to make up for my mistake. I have done all I can to resolve this problem. If Les isn't happy, then I have already told him I will fix it. If he is not happy with the cigars, I am going to mail his check back to him, uncashed.
You're missing the whole point. MC is speaking for the whole board on this issue. When you tell him he's talking a lot of shit, you might as well say it to all of us. You made a mistake the first time and forced Int. to go public which was your first mistake. After it all came to a head it was very clear to me what you needed to do. I do not understand why it is so hard for you to understand. Communicate with Int., send the agreed upon transaction out, and then post a tracking # ASAP in this thread to let everyone kow it has been handled. While sending out $150.00 in extras is a nice gesture, I do not think that is what we were after. Communication and coming through was the theme here I believe.
You're in no position to be getting defensive about feeling wronged. Own up to your mistakes and acknowledge it. Take your lumps and move on while trying to build yourself back up in the eyes others here. Sending back his check will not accomplish this.
 
You talk a lot of shit...

Your future looks dim. :(

Why? Because MC has continually insulted me? I responded to this thread immediately once notified, explained what happened, aplogized, admitted I was wrong, rectified the situation and on top of it, included an extra +$150 worth of cigars because I did feel bad...and also, have yet to cash his check because I want to make sure he's happy.

I'm not going to let someone sit and call me a coward and talk shit about me over and over like others have done here over a mistake that I am fixing...

Call it what you want, but I have taken the beating here for my mistake and have resolved the situation. The insults can stop...
No one here has insulted you " over a mistake that I am fixing " or anything else. What has happened is the failure to communicate and to properly finish a transaction that should have been done a long time ago regardless of your excuses. If you were at all worried about your reputation or the integrity of this board, then you should have posted your confirmation # the second you had it. Then you state that "I responded to THIS THREAD immediately once notified ", but you couldn't respond to Les until you were called out by Rod ? Seems to me you need to rectify this situation with quite a few more people other than Les now that you've started piling it on MC for him stating what most everyone else on this board already feels about you. " I'm not going to let someone sit and call me a coward and talk shit about me over and over"...........My response to that is, if you don't like it here go somewhere else because at this point with what you've just pulled with MC, nobody gives a shit what you think. JMHO.


Actually, I have been insulted, quite a bit. I did not directly insult or do anything wrong towards MC. I simply stated that he talks a lot of shit, which if you read his posts in this thread, is true. Many posts here haven't tried to recitify the situation, but more have bashed me. I found out about this thread from AVB, who sent me a PM notifying me about it. I responded immediately and have communicated with Les the details surrounding this. I have tried to do what I can to make up for my mistake. I have done all I can to resolve this problem. If Les isn't happy, then I have already told him I will fix it. If he is not happy with the cigars, I am going to mail his check back to him, uncashed.
You're missing the whole point. MC is speaking for the whole board on this issue. When you tell him he's talking a lot of shit, you might as well say it to all of us. You made a mistake the first time and forced Int. to go public which was your first mistake. After it all came to a head it was very clear to me what you needed to do. I do not understand why it is so hard for you to understand. Communicate with Int., send the agreed upon transaction out, and then post a tracking # ASAP in this thread to let everyone kow it has been handled. While sending out $150.00 in extras is a nice gesture, I do not think that is what we were after. Communication and coming through was the theme here I believe.
You're in no position to be getting defensive about feeling wronged. Own up to your mistakes and acknowledge it. Take your lumps and move on while trying to build yourself back up in the eyes others here. Sending back his check will not accomplish this.

I understand, thanks for your response. With the exception of posting the tracking number, all is done. I have no problem taking my lumps, I just have a problem with direct insults, when there is no need for them, they don't resolve anything. I am more than willing to take the lumps and move on, but many here have already said that is not an option for me. I have made a mistake and resolved it. Les should be able to acknowledge this soon. There was never a need for insults...
 
There's a key difference between "getting insulted" and "feeling insulted."

I'm glad that this is wrapping up.

Wilkey
 
As a Noob on this site, I've followed a lot of what MC posts. I think he's an interesting individual. He has a lot of life experience, and he shares those experiences. I wouldn't bullshit anyone here, and I am the last person on this forum to kiss anyone's ass. With that said, I can't remember a circumstance in which I thought MC was "talkin' shit". He's looking after his community. I don't think everyone here does that, some people do just talk shit. People might think that of me. But of MC, naw, that doesn't fly.

Mick
 
You talk a lot of shit...

Your future looks dim. :(

Why? Because MC has continually insulted me? I responded to this thread immediately once notified, explained what happened, aplogized, admitted I was wrong, rectified the situation and on top of it, included an extra +$150 worth of cigars because I did feel bad...and also, have yet to cash his check because I want to make sure he's happy.

I'm not going to let someone sit and call me a coward and talk shit about me over and over like others have done here over a mistake that I am fixing...

Call it what you want, but I have taken the beating here for my mistake and have resolved the situation. The insults can stop...
No one here has insulted you " over a mistake that I am fixing " or anything else. What has happened is the failure to communicate and to properly finish a transaction that should have been done a long time ago regardless of your excuses. If you were at all worried about your reputation or the integrity of this board, then you should have posted your confirmation # the second you had it. Then you state that "I responded to THIS THREAD immediately once notified ", but you couldn't respond to Les until you were called out by Rod ? Seems to me you need to rectify this situation with quite a few more people other than Les now that you've started piling it on MC for him stating what most everyone else on this board already feels about you. " I'm not going to let someone sit and call me a coward and talk shit about me over and over"...........My response to that is, if you don't like it here go somewhere else because at this point with what you've just pulled with MC, nobody gives a shit what you think. JMHO.


Actually, I have been insulted, quite a bit. I did not directly insult or do anything wrong towards MC. I simply stated that he talks a lot of shit, which if you read his posts in this thread, is true. Many posts here haven't tried to recitify the situation, but more have bashed me. I found out about this thread from AVB, who sent me a PM notifying me about it. I responded immediately and have communicated with Les the details surrounding this. I have tried to do what I can to make up for my mistake. I have done all I can to resolve this problem. If Les isn't happy, then I have already told him I will fix it. If he is not happy with the cigars, I am going to mail his check back to him, uncashed.
You're missing the whole point. MC is speaking for the whole board on this issue. When you tell him he's talking a lot of shit, you might as well say it to all of us. You made a mistake the first time and forced Int. to go public which was your first mistake. After it all came to a head it was very clear to me what you needed to do. I do not understand why it is so hard for you to understand. Communicate with Int., send the agreed upon transaction out, and then post a tracking # ASAP in this thread to let everyone kow it has been handled. While sending out $150.00 in extras is a nice gesture, I do not think that is what we were after. Communication and coming through was the theme here I believe.
You're in no position to be getting defensive about feeling wronged. Own up to your mistakes and acknowledge it. Take your lumps and move on while trying to build yourself back up in the eyes others here. Sending back his check will not accomplish this.

I understand, thanks for your response. With the exception of posting the tracking number, all is done. I have no problem taking my lumps, I just have a problem with direct insults, when there is no need for them, they don't resolve anything. I am more than willing to take the lumps and move on, but many here have already said that is not an option for me. I have made a mistake and resolved it. Les should be able to acknowledge this soon. There was never a need for insults...
I know! It's easy for me to say when I'm not on the end that's taking all the abuse but, that's the way things are done here. With good reason from some of the searches I have done. You, nor I are not above that no matter how good our intentions are. As Newbs, we pay for what all the other Jackasses have done in the past until we prove otherwise.
With that in mind , we need to agree to fly the straight and narrow when we come here or, just simply go away. As hard as it may be to swallow what seems like the whole world jumping down your throat and being disrespectful.........You can only blame yourself, not your wife, MC, or INT.
 
You talk a lot of shit...

Your future looks dim. :(

Why? Because MC has continually insulted me? I responded to this thread immediately once notified, explained what happened, aplogized, admitted I was wrong, rectified the situation and on top of it, included an extra +$150 worth of cigars because I did feel bad...and also, have yet to cash his check because I want to make sure he's happy.

I'm not going to let someone sit and call me a coward and talk shit about me over and over like others have done here over a mistake that I am fixing...

Call it what you want, but I have taken the beating here for my mistake and have resolved the situation. The insults can stop...
No one here has insulted you " over a mistake that I am fixing " or anything else. What has happened is the failure to communicate and to properly finish a transaction that should have been done a long time ago regardless of your excuses. If you were at all worried about your reputation or the integrity of this board, then you should have posted your confirmation # the second you had it. Then you state that "I responded to THIS THREAD immediately once notified ", but you couldn't respond to Les until you were called out by Rod ? Seems to me you need to rectify this situation with quite a few more people other than Les now that you've started piling it on MC for him stating what most everyone else on this board already feels about you. " I'm not going to let someone sit and call me a coward and talk shit about me over and over"...........My response to that is, if you don't like it here go somewhere else because at this point with what you've just pulled with MC, nobody gives a shit what you think. JMHO.


Actually, I have been insulted, quite a bit. I did not directly insult or do anything wrong towards MC. I simply stated that he talks a lot of shit, which if you read his posts in this thread, is true. Many posts here haven't tried to recitify the situation, but more have bashed me. I found out about this thread from AVB, who sent me a PM notifying me about it. I responded immediately and have communicated with Les the details surrounding this. I have tried to do what I can to make up for my mistake. I have done all I can to resolve this problem. If Les isn't happy, then I have already told him I will fix it. If he is not happy with the cigars, I am going to mail his check back to him, uncashed.
You're missing the whole point. MC is speaking for the whole board on this issue. When you tell him he's talking a lot of shit, you might as well say it to all of us. You made a mistake the first time and forced Int. to go public which was your first mistake. After it all came to a head it was very clear to me what you needed to do. I do not understand why it is so hard for you to understand. Communicate with Int., send the agreed upon transaction out, and then post a tracking # ASAP in this thread to let everyone kow it has been handled. While sending out $150.00 in extras is a nice gesture, I do not think that is what we were after. Communication and coming through was the theme here I believe.
You're in no position to be getting defensive about feeling wronged. Own up to your mistakes and acknowledge it. Take your lumps and move on while trying to build yourself back up in the eyes others here. Sending back his check will not accomplish this.

I understand, thanks for your response. With the exception of posting the tracking number, all is done. I have no problem taking my lumps, I just have a problem with direct insults, when there is no need for them, they don't resolve anything. I am more than willing to take the lumps and move on, but many here have already said that is not an option for me. I have made a mistake and resolved it. Les should be able to acknowledge this soon. There was never a need for insults...
I know! It's easy for me to say when I'm not on the end that's taking all the abuse but, that's the way things are done here. With good reason from some of the searches I have done. You, nor I are not above that no matter how good our intentions are. As Newbs, we pay for what all the other Jackasses have done in the past until we prove otherwise.
With that in mind , we need to agree to fly the straight and narrow when we come here or, just simply go away. As hard as it may be to swallow what seems like the whole world jumping down your throat and being disrespectful.........You can only blame yourself, not your wife, MC, or INT.


I agree with. Before this gets even more out of hand...I was reacting when I replied to MC, probably shouldn't have been said, but numerous times being called a coward, excuse-making ass, no character, being on a permanent shit list and telling others to never do any transactions with me, saying I have no regard for my reputation, taunting about me being online reading the thread, (not all by MC, but I replied to him). I didn't see this thread until this evening when I saw that the package was due to arrive today instead of tomorrow, I then noticed new replies.

This is quite a bit, 90+ threads, when I immediately admitted my mistake and resolved it. I did say some things I probably shouldn't have, I apologize for that, but put yourself on the other side, this was quite a beating when until now, I have had a good track record, made a mistake, said I would fix it and did.

In retrospect, I should have posted a tracking number, but instead, I sent it to Les, I have communicated with him. I felt it was his tracking number to share, not mine.

I apologize for all that has transpired. I'm not going to say anything else on the matter, I will let Les confirm the shipment and his satisfaction or dissatisfaction when he receives the package. Once again, sorry Les (interscape), sorry to the community for my mistake, sorry MC for my blatant response which should not have been directed at you.
 
Pretty simple. Once it was posted it became a board problem and not just a problem between two people. It was because you two couldn't get your act together that it became a board problem. Now you have to satisfy the members because we are the ones who have to deal with you in the future unless all your interaction will only be with Les. Something I doubt is the case.

I feel safe speaking for the majority that if I have a thread that involves me personally and that my reputation depends on you better damn well believe I check it every time I log on. It is only common sense. You caused the problem, the fix was stated quite plainly, send your end and post the tracking number but you chose to ignore the advice given and went along your merry way doing what you wanted. Well now you pay the price.

You can recover from this but there isn't any easy or quick fix. Read more, post less and figure out how you SHOULD have completed your trade and reacted to the membership. If you can't then there many other places you can hang out.
 
I dunno what the big deal is, stfu, post your proof that you rectified it, and move on. Why is this so hard for some folks to grasp?
 
The End.

Or at least I hope so. Sticks are here and look good. Lessons learned: If you sell something, get it in the mail real quick after the condtions are meet, If you post a complaint and memebers help you out with your problem keep them/everyone informed to the current status of the situation.

Thanks, Les
 
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