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Long Island, NY Herf at Havana Dreams - Sat. March 3, 2007 1:00pm

Forgot that I didn't say that I will be there... I'll be there.
 
Oh that day won't work , so to avoid being a last minute drop out, I gotta say I can't make it while it's still February.

My eldest's birthday on March 31, 13 years ago that very day.

AW
 
I regret that I am going to have to postpone this event due to Churchill's Cigar Lounge's new policy that I found out today - that they do not want free cigar stuff being given out because they want people to buy the cigars that they sell. Stupid right? I think that I am going to postpone this event until late June when I can have it outside in my backyard. I apologize for their stupid policy but there isn't anything I can do and I don't know of another venue that can accomodate 30+ people and allow free cigar stuff to be handed out.
 
Scott1966 said:
I regret that I am going to have to postpone this event due to Churchill's Cigar Lounge's new policy that I found out today - that they do not want free cigar stuff being given out because they want people to buy the cigars that they sell. Stupid right? I think that I am going to postpone this event until late June when I can have it outside in my backyard. I apologize for their stupid policy but there isn't anything I can do and I don't know of another venue that can accomodate 30+ people and allow free cigar stuff to be handed out.
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Well, there goes the neighborhood. Talk about the most efficient way to deter future potential customers. :whistling:
 
Scott sorry to hear that they don't want our business. We will have to find a new place that wants our business.
 
tone-ny said:
Scott sorry to hear that they don't want our business. We will have to find a new place that wants our business.
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Easier said than done. This is really a bummer as I put alot of work into getting a bunch of goodies. I will hold onto them until June, then I will do a herf in my yard.
 
Scott1966 said:
I regret that I am going to have to postpone this event due to Churchill's Cigar Lounge's new policy that I found out today - that they do not want free cigar stuff being given out because they want people to buy the cigars that they sell. Stupid right? I think that I am going to postpone this event until late June when I can have it outside in my backyard. I apologize for their stupid policy but there isn't anything I can do and I don't know of another venue that can accomodate 30+ people and allow free cigar stuff to be handed out.
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What a great business idea.....turn away a group!
 
Scott1966 said:
tone-ny said:
Scott sorry to hear that they don't want our business. We will have to find a new place that wants our business.
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Easier said than done. This is really a bummer as I put alot of work into getting a bunch of goodies. I will hold onto them until June, then I will do a herf in my yard.
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Wow, they are some stupids bastards. It's not like were occupying other cigar-buying people's space. There selection is rather lame, and their prices are semi-ridiculous. Besides, what about the drink and food money our events bring in.. not even mentioning how the events often give some stuff to their resident moron customers, smoking their own shit out of their wall humis. This is outrageous! :angry: All these changes they think they are making towards the better... that whole place seems to be in a downward spiral. Food is overpriced and mediocre (I have been there on other occasions and have sampled the steak). They fire Slider, even though he boosted wine and cigar sales significantly... mind you, it's not a cigar shop, there is no selection and their prices are terrible. Unbelievable. Maybe we should do it anyway... give out the goodies in the parking lot :whistling: :laugh:


I'll tell you what... if you guys want..... their are two apartments in my family's 5-family building, that are vacant. If we just need a space for hanging out and herfin, I'm sure we could make that happen. It would just take a little detour from the island. Just throwing that out there... I mean everthing has been put together already, and now churchill's is just taking a shit on us. The apartments are adjacent... we need a space for 30+, both should do if not one.
What do ya think?

Steve
 
Sorry that this was canceled, as I was looking forward to meeting you gentlemen.

Another time... :)
 
Devin Cole said:
Sorry that this was canceled, as I was looking forward to meeting you gentlemen.

Another time... :)
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Ditto what Devin said and I had trip back from Texas planned so i would get back Thursday evening and rest on Friday then Herf on Saturday. Sorry to hear the bad news Scott, keep us updated....... :cool: :thumbs: :cool:
 
That suck's. I printed out their cigar list and made a mental note to buy a few to support them for, supporting us. There goe the support concept.......... :rolleyes: Thanks for the attempt Scott and however you choose to do this I will try my best to be there. Thanks all the vendors for their support.
 
I don't understand a business model that turns away paying customers. Every time I've been there I've spent over $70 on food and drinks. The only thing is I've never purchased cigars from them because of the selection. Well we'll see what happens.
 
Feb. 21, 2007

Well, you just KNOW I had to chime in on this one now !! :rolleyes:

It does not surprise me in the least that they canceled on you. Even though the event is only two weeks away, hey I was let go on a Saturday night at 7pm after having been working that day since 3pm - go figure. They did not feel comfortable with you guys going to the suppliers(s) asking for free stuff I assume. That is not the most important point here though. What they just did is totally alienate an entire group of loyal cigar smokers (their target audience) plus, all others who read the threads but don't attend HERF's per se. As someone mentioned, you guys not only give out "free stuff" but purchase cigars from the humidor (although the selection is WAY down since I left), you also buy food, drinks, etc. The last HERF you had their back in July 2006 generated $3000 for them on a Saturday afternoon! $3000 on a hot Saturday July afternoon is a grand slam home run for that place. They are dead as a doornail on the weekend days so this is simply found money. My guess is that given the size of the group you would be generating the same if not more revenue this time around.

When I left in mid January they had three humidors. One was totally shut down and empty. The remaining two were about 30-35% full. I have not been there since so I have no idea what the inventory looks like. They were selling about 45-50 different SKUs when I started and were down to maybe a dozen when I left.

I suggest you take the not only the HERF but your business somewhere else. The only other place that I know in the area (Massapequa) that can accommodate a group of this size is Margiotta's Cigars in Massapequa. The owner (Joe?) just called me on Monday - talk about irony. Here is their link - http://www.licigars.com/. They have a back room that can hold 30-40 people plus a very small front area that seats 5 people or so. A very nice selection of cigars and accessories as well. They do not serve food per se but their is a pizzeria and deli across the street. Plenty of parking and a very nice place to hang out. Nice big chairs, sofas, big screen televisions, etc. plus beer! Give them a call and see what they say. The other place is Stogies and Tales in Farmingdale. Here is their link http://www.stogiesandtails.com/ - but 30 people would be a bit tight. I would call to confirm for both places. Please be sure that you mention my name at both. If you need me to reach out to them just let me know and I will call them today.

As for Maxwell and Dunne's, their actions speak for themselves. They are very shortsighted in their business acumen plus they simply are not marketers. They had one but they got rid of me. So let them do what they think is best for their place. They had an opportunity to have 30-40 true cigar lovers in their place on a cold Saturday afternoon, make several thousand dollars and keep their customer's happy. But why do that? :(

Let me know how this turns out 'cause now that it is NOT going to be at Maxwell's I will definitely be attending.
 
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