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Keeping the fire going

Rconectn

Rconectn

King of Scotland
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Tonight I smoked a Tatuaje Reserva SW and it's a great cigar, but like many other Tat's I had to constantly relight it b/c it would turn off. I was wondering does this happen to anyone else? I know it's not the RH (65%) at which I keep my Tat's b/c I store other cigars in the same humidor, i.e. AF's with the Tatuaje's and I never have this problem while I smoked a AF. It always follows the same pattern, I'm sitting there puffing away moderately and when I'm about to take my next puff I notice that the draw doesn't pull alot of smoke and the edge or rim of the foot of the cigar doesn't burn, only the inside filler stays a little lit. By my next puff a minute later, poof! The cigar turned off by itself. Why can't the Tatuaje stay lit?
 
I have the same problem that you're talking about with every Tatuaje I've tried smoking. The wrapper tends to be very thick and oily, so much that it just doesn't burn. I've tried keeping them at 60%, but they just won't behave. Only the center of the filler stays lit even with fairly frequent puffing. People rave about them on and on but I haven't had a good experience yet.

I think my last Cojonu 2003 I relit at least 10 times.

No burn = no flavor :(
 
I had the exact same problem with the first Tat I smoked, and coincidentally enough, it was a SW. This line has been compared every which way but sideways to smokes from the Island, and in much the same way they need to be stored at a lower RH in order burn properly. Try storing them at 60% RH and then letting it sit out for an hour and a half or so before lighting it up. That's what was recommended to me and has worked well thus far. Good luck, because they definitely are worth it!
 
Honestly, I've never experienced this problem. However, I have pretty much always let my Tat's have some down time in the humi. The only Pepin's I usually go for straight away are his Blues, 601 reds, and the Serie JJ. Even the Padilla 8&11's usually hibernate for awhile in my humi.
 
I do the same thing with all my cigars, give them downtime. These Tat's in particular have been in my humi @ 65% RH for the last six months and still they have given problems. I'm going to try to store them @ 60% Phlicker, hopefully that works. As an experiment as of right now I took out a Tatuaje and placed it in a dry box and Im going to smoke it tonight, hopefully 8 hrs out of the humi will dry the cigar a bit. Lets see what happens....
 
I've experienced this problem too and having to keep re-lighting a cigar can kill the experience. I now keep my cabinet at around 62% RH. To avoid the frustration, I dry box my cigars for a day or two (depending on how they feel) and it has seemed to have done the trick.
 
Rconectn said:
I do the same thing with all my cigars, give them downtime. These Tat's in particular have been in my humi @ 65% RH for the last six months and still they have given problems. I'm going to try to store them @ 60% Phlicker, hopefully that works. As an experiment as of right now I took out a Tatuaje and placed it in a dry box and Im going to smoke it tonight, hopefully 8 hrs out of the humi will dry the cigar a bit. Lets see what happens....
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Let us know how it goes for you!
 
Every one I've smoked had a nice sharp burn. I keep them at 60%.
 
I had one on new years, the great big foil wrapped one. I kept relighting with every puff it seemed, Smoked about 2 inches and chucked it. Now the flavor was amazing, it was just such a hassel. I pulled out a BC and fired it up and forgot all about that Tat.
 
In my experience, 65% is too high for the Tats. I usually keep mine no higher than 62% (~60% most of the time, though), in addition to religiously letting them rest for at least two months, and I've had no problems.
 
I've only ever smoked one Tat and had a unique experience. I say unique because I have never had this happen with any other cigar. The cigar burned almost into a funnel, to the point where the wrapper was not burning, but the fire was essentially disappearing into a cylinder of the wrapper. I had never seen something like this happen before. Finally, the fire got too hot in what I will call the cylinder, and started to catch the wrapper on fire from the inside. Once this happened, the excess wrapper burnt off, and I was back to a normal burn. Not sure I have ever seen this happen before. To make this even more interesting, I was sitting with cookie_1978 when this happened. We both commented how unusual this was. Has this ever happened to anyone else?
 
wilmotrogers said:
I've only ever smoked one Tat and had a unique experience. I say unique because I have never had this happen with any other cigar. The cigar burned almost into a funnel, to the point where the wrapper was not burning, but the fire was essentially disappearing into a cylinder of the wrapper. I had never seen something like this happen before. Finally, the fire got too hot in what I will call the cylinder, and started to catch the wrapper on fire from the inside. Once this happened, the excess wrapper burnt off, and I was back to a normal burn. Not sure I have ever seen this happen before. To make this even more interesting, I was sitting with cookie_1978 when this happened. We both commented how unusual this was. Has this ever happened to anyone else?
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I had that happen with my first VSG Beli. It burnt a good inch and a half into the cigar and then the whole wrapper began to burn and come apart. I wouldn't have let it go on so long but I was in heavy traffic and didn't want to take my hands off the wheel. It tasted ashy and charred and I couldn't figure out why anyone liked them. I'm glad I gave them a second shot. And just to add my .02, Tats always need down time at 60%, especailly the RC 184's and 233's. For the larger vitolas I try for at least three months. The Noellas and Petit Tats seem good after one month. The rest of the lines have always burned just fine out of the gate. I've never found that "dry-boxing" worked. The wrapper dries but the binder is still moist and I still have the same problem.
 
wilmotrogers said:
I've only ever smoked one Tat and had a unique experience. I say unique because I have never had this happen with any other cigar. The cigar burned almost into a funnel, to the point where the wrapper was not burning, but the fire was essentially disappearing into a cylinder of the wrapper. I had never seen something like this happen before. Finally, the fire got too hot in what I will call the cylinder, and started to catch the wrapper on fire from the inside. Once this happened, the excess wrapper burnt off, and I was back to a normal burn. Not sure I have ever seen this happen before. To make this even more interesting, I was sitting with cookie_1978 when this happened. We both commented how unusual this was. Has this ever happened to anyone else?
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It's called tunnelling and is usually caused by improper humidification.
 
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