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Jeff's quest...

Number 4 was a custom roll by myself (ok well mostly me trying with the help of a torcedor) in Cancun in the summer of 2008.

Yup. One of a kind type of cigar. I rolled this with a ton of help from a local roller that happened to have a little booth set up in Cancun last summer. I threw him a little money and a cigar, and he sat down with me and explained his art.

Neat huh?

Sorry you didn't like it so much - neither do I partciularly. But it was a neat experience nonetheless.

I rolled several of these and it was a ton of fun to do. I recommend taking a torcedor class if you ever get the chance. It was a blast!

Edit: This cigar was meant to be a curveball and fool Greg. Clearly it did not.
 
jlada said:
Number 4 was a custom roll by myself (ok well mostly me trying with the help of a torcedor) in Cancun in the summer of 2008.

Yup. One of a kind type of cigar. I rolled this with a ton of help from a local roller that happened to have a little booth set up in Cancun last summer. I threw him a little money and a cigar, and he sat down with me and explained his art.

Neat huh?

Sorry you didn't like it so much - neither do I partciularly. But it was a neat experience nonetheless.

I rolled several of these and it was a ton of fun to do. I recommend taking a torcedor class if you ever get the chance. It was a blast!

Edit: This cigar was meant to be a curveball and fool Greg. Clearly it did not.
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Oh man, that is freakin' awesome! Hand rolled by the man himself no doubt! You definitely did an excellent job on the rolling as it was very well constructed IMO. Even though you did have help. :D Weee this is fun!
 
Nice job guys! This is enjoyable to follow.

I have had similar experiences with the 858 SG. I have had a great one and another that was almost unsmokable. I wondered if maybe the unsmokeable one got passed around a lot or something and it lost its flavor, because the first one I had was great.
 
This is a great thread I look forward to everytime I log on. I'm impressed with the reviews and the knowledge.

Mike
 
Stick No. 5​
What a beautiful day. The temperature gauge on the back porch is reading over 80, and with the sun shining directly on my right side, it feels even warmer. I decided to pour a small snifter of Cao Ila 18 to accompany the smoke.

Stick number five has a smooth, dark brown wrapper with one prominent vein, and not a great deal of oiliness to be noticed. The weight feels good in the hand and only a slight give when squeezed. I punch the cap and draw is perfect with a faint taste of cocoa and moist earth.

Fire to the foot and burning good, I take several draws and exhale to get past the initial “power stage”, and then take a good draw. There’s a very good pepper spice on the back of the throat. A ton of smoke is produced and is a good medium in body. I take a sip of the Cao Ila and then draw some smoke right behind and the flavor is simply excellent tasting smooth and creamy peat, roasted nuts, caramel, vanilla, and a cocoa undertone. Oh yes, very nice. The finish is excellent as well with a particular smoked flavor that I believe is coming mostly from the scotch.

Midway in and the cigar is still performing strong. A sweet maduro flavor is coming through with cocoa and roasted nuts. There’s a delicious finish that’s lasting on the palate. The smoke is a good medium body with a perfect spice, and the burn is sharp with a strong medium gray ash forming. A salty sweetness remains on the lips after taking a draw and is very good.

Towards the end, the spice is really kicking and very good I might add. The sweet maduro flavor is still there with tastes of roasted nuts and caramel with a delicious lasting finish. The burn has remained sharp throughout with a strong ash and tons of smoke produced from the perfect draw.

This was a very good cigar with sharp burn and lots of flavor. The finish was long and lasting on the palate, good even after putting the cigar down. I would definitely pick up more of these. I’ll say Nicaraguan/Dominican (although I’m tempted to say Habanos Maduro, but just a little too much spice). Price $8 to $10.

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I think there's been a bit of confusion. I will wait to reveal this cigar until I hear confirmation from Greg.
 
Number 5 was a Padilla Series 68 Robusto

Yup - right around $5ish and an everyday cigar. I find this cigar to be the unsung hero of the Padilla line. You never hear much about it, but it offers a great profile on the cheap. I've never had a burn/construction issue with this cigar either. Your smoking notes are nearly identical to mine. Origin is Nicaraguan, so you pretty much nailed it. You were high on the price, but I believe this cigar offers a lot of value, so I can't fault you.

I've only got a two left.... box split, Greg? Which vitola?
 
jlada said:
Number 5 was a Padilla Series 68 Robusto

Yup - right around $5ish and an everyday cigar. I find this cigar to be the unsung hero of the Padilla line. You never hear much about it, but it offers a great profile on the cheap. I've never had a burn/construction issue with this cigar either. Your smoking notes are nearly identical to mine. Origin is Nicaraguan, so you pretty much nailed it. You were high on the price, but I believe this cigar offers a lot of value, so I can't fault you.

I've only got a two left.... box split, Greg? Which vitola?
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You choose, I'm in! :D
 
jlada said:
Number 5 was a Padilla Series 68 Robusto

Yup - right around $5ish and an everyday cigar. I find this cigar to be the unsung hero of the Padilla line. You never hear much about it, but it offers a great profile on the cheap. I've never had a burn/construction issue with this cigar either. Your smoking notes are nearly identical to mine. Origin is Nicaraguan, so you pretty much nailed it. You were high on the price, but I believe this cigar offers a lot of value, so I can't fault you.

I've only got a two left.... box split, Greg? Which vitola?
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I'm a big Padilla fan as well, this is a great smoke. Nice job Greg!
 
Stick No. 6​
I find the wrapper to be a chocolate brown and oily with a sandpaper feel, but not overly coarse. The weight is good in the hand, and there’s only a slight give when squeezed. I punch the triple cap and find a good draw, maybe a little more resistance than needed, however still plenty of airflow coming through. Taste of raw tobacco comes through in the cold draw.

I torch the foot and blow the embers, torch some more until the foot has a uniform burn, then take a few puffs to get it burning good. My first draw is, to say the least, delicious! Sweet cocoa and roasted almonds with a caramel toffee undertone. The smoke itself is mild to medium and a perfect amount of cinnamon spice tickles the back of the throat. A few more draws and the delicious flavors continue with a finish that is long and lasting on the palate.

This is one very good cigar and doesn’t take me long at all to burn an inch away. The ash is a dark gray and fairly solid, however the burn is leaning to one side. A little over an inch in and I’m starting to lose smoke somewhere, for as much as I puff it seems to not want to burn. I knock off the ash and sure enough, there’s holes down through the center. I can feel a fairly large, empty spot on one side of the cigar where the tobacco is missing.

I continue to puff away hoping the burn improves, however it actually gets worse, and I finally use the Zippo to do a fairly large touch-up. I dump the ash and a huge cone is left where the filler isn’t burning. I will say though, when I could get good smoke out, it was fantastic! Leather, earth, caramel, roasted nuts, just excellent flavors with a fantastic long finish.

Finally, with about an inch and an half left to go, the burn straightened up. Of course, just when I’m about to be done with it I get a good burn. I find the smoke actually changed to more of a mild body towards the end, and the spice was all but gone, however the flavors were still delicious.

I’d have to say as far as flavor, this was the best cigar out of all six. If not for the burn issue, it would have been my favorite. It fit my palate very well and am very curious to know what the heck it is!! I’m thinking Jeff may have me on this one, however I’m going to go with Nicaraguan, price point around $6 to $8.

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Number six was a Cohiba Maduro 5 Genios from mid 07 (around the original release date).

I :love: :love: :love: this cigar. I find this cigar to be exactly what I look for in a cigar: relaxtion, satisfying, excellent flavor, perfect burn duration, etc. This cigar is a staple of my CC smoking habit. I don't have a ton of experience with finely aged CC, but if they taste better than this, sign me up. Sign me up now.

Anyway... box split, Greg? :) I'd rather split these than the Padillas, heck - we could do both. I'm not going to discuss any source in this thread, but my cost is right around $15 per. If you wanna do a 3 way split on one or both, I'm sure another brother would be in for this.

I'm mailing off cigar 7, 8, 9, & 10 soon. You should have them by Sunday or Monday.

Thus far, I must say I am floored by your palette. Superb job, my friend.

Edit: What a terrible burn. I must say I usually don't have issues with burning this cigar, and I've smoked through 3 boxes now. Perhaps you got a lemon? Pity.
 
jlada said:
Number six was a Cohiba Maduro 5 Genios from mid 07 (around the original release date).

I :love: :love: :love: this cigar. I find this cigar to be exactly what I look for in a cigar: relaxtion, satisfying, excellent flavor, perfect burn duration, etc. This cigar is a staple of my CC smoking habit. I don't have a ton of experience with finely aged CC, but if they taste better than this, sign me up. Sign me up now.

Anyway... box split, Greg? :) I'd rather split these than the Padillas, heck - we could do both. I'm not going to discuss any source in this thread, but my cost is right around $15 per. If you wanna do a 3 way split on one or both, I'm sure another brother would be in for this.

I'm mailing off cigar 7, 8, 9, & 10 soon. You should have them by Sunday or Monday.

Thus far, I must say I am floored by your palette. Superb job, my friend.

Edit: What a terrible burn. I must say I usually don't have issues with burning this cigar, and I've smoked through 3 boxes now. Perhaps you got a lemon? Pity.
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You have no idea how close I was to saying it was a Habanos. I've actually smoked a number of Cohiba Maduros and have to say I didn't like any of them much at all. I think maybe they were just too young? I dunno. But, this was a downright fantastic smoke! I'm definitely in for a split!
 
Nice review Greg. I've had one of these and though mine was banded, I would've swore I was smoking a Nicaraguan rather than a Cuban. While my palate is as refined as, well, most people's, I didn't detect anything that would've made me say Cuban about it. Good smoke but I guess I was a little let down with it being my only Cohiba.
 
jlada said:
Number six was a Cohiba Maduro 5 Genios from mid 07 (around the original release date).

I :love: :love: :love: this cigar. I find this cigar to be exactly what I look for in a cigar: relaxtion, satisfying, excellent flavor, perfect burn duration, etc. This cigar is a staple of my CC smoking habit. I don't have a ton of experience with finely aged CC, but if they taste better than this, sign me up. Sign me up now.

Anyway... box split, Greg? :) I'd rather split these than the Padillas, heck - we could do both. I'm not going to discuss any source in this thread, but my cost is right around $15 per. If you wanna do a 3 way split on one or both, I'm sure another brother would be in for this.

I'm mailing off cigar 7, 8, 9, & 10 soon. You should have them by Sunday or Monday.

Thus far, I must say I am floored by your palette. Superb job, my friend.

Edit: What a terrible burn. I must say I usually don't have issues with burning this cigar, and I've smoked through 3 boxes now. Perhaps you got a lemon? Pity.
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Count me in if you do this 3 ways!
 
Cigar Number 1​

Preconceptions:

5" maybe a little over.
Probably a low 40's ring gauge.
Veiny, medium brown.
Somewhat rough construction.
Very flat head - not bulbous at all.
No triple cap noted.
Light in the hand - some give on squeeze.
Small, glistening crystals cover the veiny/bumpy wrapper. Hmm... down-time maybe?
Maybe a custom/farm roll?
Kinda resembles a Padron x000 series in appearance.
I'm stumped.

Pre-light:

Earth, hay, grassy aroma. You mid-westerners know that smell of autumn - when the ground is covered in big brown leaves... you go outside in the morning and take a DEEP breath in. Somewhat reminded me of that smell. No spice noted. Perhaps a bit sweet. Mild.

Beginning:

Mild. Maybe low medium. Very, very smooth. No spice noted at this point. Flows like water from the nose. No tingling of the nasal passages. Not much of a finish. Grass/earth is dominant. Perhaps Dominican.

Draw is flawless. Burn is razor sharp.

3/4" in:

Light-switch! Spice! Moving well into medium. The nasal passages are tingling. Very nice. Me likey. Very "creamy/smooth". Leather noted.

Ash is solid as a rock.

In the middle:

I'm liking this! Plenty of flavor/spice to note. A quite pleasant finish. Earth, but spicy. Hmm... did Pete touch this stick? Perhaps I'm wrong on Dominican? Still very smooth, but the flavor is excellent. As I continue, spice/leather is predominant over organics.

ASH STAND SUCCESSFUL!

The end:

Toned down a bit. Twinge of sweetness noted. Still smoking cool. Still remarkably smooth. Leather/grass finish in my mouth. If I press my tongue to the roof of my mouth and let the saliva pool, I can still taste the spice.

Guess:

Has some down time, I'm guessing. If not, I commend the manufacturer for such a smooth smoke. I'm in between Dominican and Nicaraguan. If it's a Cuban, I definitely don't much much experience with this stick. Close to Cuban I can liken it to is maybe a Partagas.

I'm going to stick to all my thoughts and say a mixed filler blend, non-Cuban. Opus-y notes maybe? Ok... I give up. Price point we'll say $6-$8.

Good, unique smoke that rather abruptly evolved. Wouldn't mind picking up a fiver for a change of pace. Liked it, not loved it. Good smoke.


Edit: Pics coming later in the week when I get the cable to connect my camera to PC.
 
jlada said:
Cigar Number 1​

Preconceptions:

5" maybe a little over.
Probably a low 40's ring gauge.
Veiny, medium brown.
Somewhat rough construction.
Very flat head - not bulbous at all.
No triple cap noted.
Light in the hand - some give on squeeze.
Small, glistening crystals cover the veiny/bumpy wrapper. Hmm... down-time maybe?
Maybe a custom/farm roll?
Kinda resembles a Padron x000 series in appearance.
I'm stumped.

Pre-light:

Earth, hay, grassy aroma. You mid-westerners know that smell of autumn - when the ground is covered in big brown leaves... you go outside in the morning and take a DEEP breath in. Somewhat reminded me of that smell. No spice noted. Perhaps a bit sweet. Mild.

Beginning:

Mild. Maybe low medium. Very, very smooth. No spice noted at this point. Flows like water from the nose. No tingling of the nasal passages. Not much of a finish. Grass/earth is dominant. Perhaps Dominican.

Draw is flawless. Burn is razor sharp.

3/4" in:

Light-switch! Spice! Moving well into medium. The nasal passages are tingling. Very nice. Me likey. Very "creamy/smooth". Leather noted.

Ash is solid as a rock.

In the middle:

I'm liking this! Plenty of flavor/spice to note. A quite pleasant finish. Earth, but spicy. Hmm... did Pete touch this stick? Perhaps I'm wrong on Dominican? Still very smooth, but the flavor is excellent. As I continue, spice/leather is predominant over organics.

ASH STAND SUCCESSFUL!

The end:

Toned down a bit. Twinge of sweetness noted. Still smoking cool. Still remarkably smooth. Leather/grass finish in my mouth. If I press my tongue to the roof of my mouth and let the saliva pool, I can still taste the spice.

Guess:

Has some down time, I'm guessing. If not, I commend the manufacturer for such a smooth smoke. I'm in between Dominican and Nicaraguan. If it's a Cuban, I definitely don't much much experience with this stick. Close to Cuban I can liken it to is maybe a Partagas.

I'm going to stick to all my thoughts and say a mixed filler blend, non-Cuban. Opus-y notes maybe? Ok... I give up. Price point we'll say $6-$8.

Good, unique smoke that rather abruptly evolved. Wouldn't mind picking up a fiver for a change of pace. Liked it, not loved it. Good smoke.


Edit: Pics coming later in the week when I get the cable to connect my camera to PC.
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Cigar Number 1 - Jose L. Piedra Cremas mid '07 - Price point $1.80 per stick ($90 bundle of 50)

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I loaded up on these some time back as they were very good yard 'gars IMO. Especially with a few years downtime, they really come through. These are still a bit young yet, but smoking better now than when they first came in. Can't beat 'em for less than $2 a stick. You were just a little off on this one Jeff! :D
 
Wow. Ya got me! I've never smoked one - sort of a unique profile. Very rough lookin' fella isn't it? Started off a dud and really came through mid-way!

Impressed with how smooth it is for how young. I noted nothing chemical on any of my exhales.

:thumbs: Greg: 1 - Jeff: 0

Smoking NUMBA TOOOOO now. Think I got this one.
 
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