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Jay's "Seven Days" Pass

The Cojonus are regular production. The "2003" is just a designation of the year that size was released. So I don't think there is really any rarity factor with this cigar. Unless, of course, it is an original release, in which case I'm pissed for not taking it when I had the chance.
 
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I have little to say about the last P/T as I also could not find anything on the Davidoff. And I'm not trying to start a fire, but I was curious about the first P/T. Just so it can be documented for others (and myself), I have jotted down my thought process and wanted to see what I was missing.

The Tatuaje Conoju '03 had an MSRP of $13 and is released every three years.

The AF Anejo 77 Shark has an MSRP of ~$12 and is released seasonally.

Thus I would place the Tat a higher value due to its age, more limited release, and MSRP. What did I miss?

What did you miss??? Not trying to be inflamatory but, that comment, at least as read and received by me, is not needed. A simple explaination regarding your valuation of the trade would be sufficient. IMO comments like that are not necessary. After all we are all brother's here aren't we :-) I think a little more courtesy and respect shoudl be extended to fellow CP'ers.

I preficed this as saying:

"As for my P's and T's. This was the hardest part. It took me over an hour to to try to line up value and rarity but, I think I did an pretty good job. Please let me know if something is off or if I need to revise any of these"

You have to understand Mr. Audikraut that Rarity is somewhat subjective. I have no problem revising that transaction as I said it was difficult for me to line these things up exaclty. I am trying, as we all are, to make the pieces of the puzzle fit as best as possible and am not trying to gain or profit just to share some stogies and have a good time. I have no issue re working this.

I see your point as valid. Just so you knw my thought process. I know we are going off of MSRP and to be honest I did not look this one up. I used my personal experience / knowledge from my local B&M the conoju sells for $13 and for whatever reason is usually in stock for several months after release, apparently we do not have much of a Tat following. I was unaware that this was a once every three year release. Anyhow, The Shark sells for 13.50 at my local and sells out in about 1 week. I figured it was kind of a wash and was pretty even. If anything my perception was, that while the conoju may be more of a limited release the shark due to the AF band, the unique shape and marketing hype was more in demand. As with most things, these are all relative to the individuals point of view / experience and I honestly thought this trade to line up the most even ot of all of them. go figure. :-)

I am not trying to get anything additional out of this and if it doesn't compute thats fine by me. As with all my transactions here, I try to give more than I get, thats just who I am. Because of my nature I may have been a little sensitive to your, what I took as farily rude and un needed comment. If it was just your nature and harmless, I accept that and no harm done. We can move on.

Any how, no worries at all, I am completely cool about re doing any of these thats why we run these things up the flag pole as people see adn value things differently.

Any other thoughts on this?

Thank god its friday, can't wait for a steak and a cold one. :-)

*edited for spelling** for those that read this I have not sued my B&M i used them as a reference
 
Charley, When I saw that I thought the same thing about the conoju. I did not recall it being a 3 year release cycle. in fact I had one of the 2003's at my local in May and really enjoyed it. So I grabbed it in the pass. After reading Audikrat, that I was thinking how did that limited release last 7-8 years at my local with no one grabbing them?

Glad I am not going crazy.
 
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I have little to say about the last P/T as I also could not find anything on the Davidoff. And I'm not trying to start a fire, but I was curious about the first P/T. Just so it can be documented for others (and myself), I have jotted down my thought process and wanted to see what I was missing.

The Tatuaje Conoju '03 had an MSRP of $13 and is released every three years.

The AF Anejo 77 Shark has an MSRP of ~$12 and is released seasonally.

Thus I would place the Tat a higher value due to its age, more limited release, and MSRP. What did I miss?

Wow.

Sorry if it came across wrong, but I was simply stating my objective as a question as I too was uncertain about the information I found. As stated above I was looking to document my thought process for others to see and seeking advice from others with regards to my interpretation of your P/Ts. It's my understanding that the pass thread is an open forum where all P/Ts should be discussed, and as such I posted it in this thread. I even started my statement with the preface of "I'm not trying to start a fire...".

I'm not sure how I could have made that post any more PC as I was seeking advice from those more experienced than me and it would have been silly to post the information as a statement when my real objective was to obtain advice on my thought process. And it would have been even sillier for me to be seeking advice without asking a question.

*edit - not trying to be a smart-*ss. Just making a point. Also the statement below.

Charley, When I saw that I thought the same thing about the conoju. I did not recall it being a 3 year release cycle. in fact I had one of the 2003's at my local in May and really enjoyed it. So I grabbed it in the pass. After reading Audikrat, that I was thinking how did that limited release last 7-8 years at my local with no one grabbing them?

Glad I am not going crazy.

I believe this might be where I went wrong. Perhaps I misunderstood the "new version every 3 years" with a limited production run? Honestly I'm not sure about the availability of these, but the 2003s were the inaugural run IIRC.
 
I am sorry as well. Re reading it. I am Not sure why i took it that way. I Got rear ended Tuesday by a 3/4 ton deisel. My car is totalled I have a slight concussion, neck and back pain, I am going for an MRI at 4:30 today for my rotator cuff. I haven't been sleeping basically, I have been miserable . I just read too much into it. Sorry if it was mis interpreted. My bad.

Dr actually made a point to my wife to watch out for depression, anger and memory loss. Re reading it i agree its not that much of a deal but, it rubbed me the wrong way at the time.

Again I am sorry. My Bad, this is not like me.
 
In my eyes the demand for the Shark makes up for what would be a rather small variance in the price. I'm certainly open to being corrected but I'm pretty sure MSRP on them is right about 13?
 
Hope your alright Greggj77

I had lots of trouble with the P/T being new to this pass.
But around me Tats and Padrons are super hard to come by most shops by me dont carry or have few and sold out mostly but AF, Ashtons and Davidoffs are easy all the local shops have them. Shows every area is different.


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Gregg, best wishes and I will pray for a speedy recovery. Beef squashed, lets get the pass back on track :thumbs:
 
In my eyes the demand for the Shark makes up for what would be a rather small variance in the price. I'm certainly open to being corrected but I'm pretty sure MSRP on them is right about 13?

MSRP is right around $12.50 on the current 3 lines of the Cojonu. No rarity at all though.

MSRP on the Shark is $10.25...you usually see them around $12 though.

A new cojonu line is introduced every 3 years, but it becomes a regular production...not a limited run.

Rarity might be a factor...but an additional $2 might make up for it. Close call, I'd call it good though...Shark's are limited, esp. compared to the cojonu, but still in constant production.
 
In my eyes the demand for the Shark makes up for what would be a rather small variance in the price. I'm certainly open to being corrected but I'm pretty sure MSRP on them is right about 13?

MSRP is right around $12.50 on the current 3 lines of the Cojonu. No rarity at all though.

MSRP on the Shark is $10.25...you usually see them around $12 though.

A new cojonu line is introduced every 3 years, but it becomes a regular production...not a limited run.

Rarity might be a factor...but an additional $2 might make up for it. Close call, I'd call it good though...Shark's are limited, esp. compared to the cojonu, but still in constant production.

To weigh in on my end, I agree with the statements below. Any B&M (not in this crap state) I have been in, I have been able to find Cojonu 03's; nut never remember seeing a Shark.
 
Thanks for all the well wishes and the tolerance extended to my over reaction. Re reading it I don't know why it rubbed me anyway I feel like an ass. That was definitely out of character for me. I sent a PM Audi to issue a more personal / sincere apology.

I am still waiting on word from the MRI on Friday. It Looks like there might be a rotator cuff tear as well as the neck issues. This thing absolutely sucks.

If this looks good I will re-hydrate and box up and get this ready to ship for tomorrow.

PM incoming to next in line and DC to follow.
 
Gregg has PMed me and I am all set to receive the pass.

I'll post back later with my proposed P/T. Is the list in the OP updated?
 
Looks like all is well. Packing everything up right now. It will be ready to hit the road tomorrow. I Will drop it at the PO at lunch and post the DC.
 
It isn't updated yet Bluue I'm working on it now.



Ok, the first page is all updated. After you Bluue lets see if we can't get Mobig back in before we get too far away from him on the list.
 
Alright, This bad boy is off and running dropped off at the PO this afternoon.

DC is 0311 1660 0001 8381 3769

Thanks for letting me play.
 
Alright, This bad boy is off and running dropped off at the PO this afternoon.

DC is 0311 1660 0001 8381 3769

Thanks for letting me play.

Looking forward to receiving!

Here are my proposed P/T. Let me know if anything looks fishy and I'll re-work!

Take: (81)Tat Boris Put: Liga Privada No. 9 Belicoso
Take: (88)GOF Robusto ’05 Coffin Put: My Father LE 2010 Coffin
Take: (106)Zino LE Embassy Selection Put: Davidoff Special R
Take: (111) LP Flying Pig Put: LP Dirty Rat
 
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