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I guess I screwed up.

Gonz

Gonz

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I'm going to take a time out now. The majority have spoken and it appears you all feel I was out of line. Since I don't really see it that way yet I feel it's best for me to just walk away. From some of the posts I've read in the past 48 hours there appears to be many here who feel I've got some issues surrounding a need for drama, and have had them for some time.

Perhaps I'll come back this fall and have a different attitude.

Finally, I'm not starting this thread in an effort to get everyone to post some BS "Oh, please Gonz, don't go!". Please know that the easiest way for me to do this is to log off and step away. I don't want this to linger, and I honestly don't want this thread to run three pages of more things I did wrong or things I could have done to change. I just feel like it would have been wrong to disappear.

Take care all.
 
Well it dosen't matter if you don't want the "oh Gonz please don't go" you pretty much left yourself open to this. I don't believe this is a reason for you or anyone go away. Move on from the BS that happened the last 48hrs and just let it be.

Things were said and done and thats pretty much all it is, it's done. Now it's time for everyone involved to maybe step back for the weekend, have a few good cigars and a few drinks and start over come monday and that is all it should be. :thumbs:
 
Occasionally, be it online or meatspace, everyone feels the urge to compare urinary trajectories, penis sizes, or intelligence quotients. Sometimes under the influence of alcohol, sometimes under the influence of testosterone, sometimes because it's just been one of those days.

This forum is filled with the largest collection of gentlemen able, day in and day out, to resist the urge to wave their dicks at the monitor and respond calmly, reflectively, and rationally that I've ever encountered online. Almost every day on here, I'm reminded by their examples to be a little bit better person, a little bit truer to my core values, and a great deal less of an ass online. :rolleyes:

Walking away from a lesson just means you have to learn it all over again the next time.

~Boar
 
It will truly be a sad day if Gonz leaves. I feel more and more uncomfortable with some of the FOGS stepping away from here. This is just my opinion only. I feel there has been a push to change the culture here at CP by some. I would hate to see what CP could become if these guys that devote a lot of time and effort to keep this place safe leave. I truly believe that there is room for all of us here and hope that the culture of CP does not get pushed to the point that some very good people leave.
 
Yeahthatsme said:
Don't walk away man. People have their opinions, you have yours, sometimes they differ, no need to leave because a few people don't like your style.
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I can't help but imagine Joe Joe saying this in a big fur coat, pimp feather hat on his dome, two ladies at his sides, smoking a lancero...

Stay for the ride Andy, I had some good conversations with you. Not everyone can read your sarcasm, and there aren't any inflections in text. Use your best judgment, but I don't want to see you step out for a few.

pembroke3355 said:
I feel more and more uncomfortable with some of the FOGS stepping away from here. This is just my opinion only. I feel there has been a push to change the culture here at CP by some. I would hate to see what CP could become if these guys that devote a lot of time and effort to keep this place safe leave. I truly believe that there is room for all of us here and hope that the culture of CP does not get pushed to the point that some very good people leave.
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I agree. It sucks to see some good FOGs stepping away like Andy is considering.

Edited to add Don's quote.
 
Indeed, there have been times when Andy took people to task for no good reason. This, wasn't one of them. Bigotry, real or imagined should be confronted wherever it rears it's ugly head.

Doc.
 
Gonz you freakin WUSS!

Don't tell me you're a DCT



Come here.... I got a bandade for your wittle boo-boo.

No... we won't spray the stingy bactine on it... just a bandade....

I know.. I know, Tiger. Those bad cigar people! :cool:

cough<wuss>



DCT = "disher can't taker"!
 
Devil Doc said:
Indeed, there have been times when Andy took people to task for no good reason. This, wasn't one of them. Bigotry, real or imagined should be confronted wherever it rears it's ugly head.

Doc.
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100% agreement, Doc. People need to keep in mind we have members of all backgrounds, ages, upbringings, etc. here. Choosing one's words wisely is a prudent measure to take.

I do think posting the PM was wrong, but this whole thing is nothing to leave over.
 
All you had to do was offer a sincere apology. It's not about what you think you did, it's what others think you did. If this is the way you want to go, it's unfortunate, but see you in the fall.
 
I'll make it easier for you. You DID screw up. Own it, man up and keep on truckin'. Otherwise this break might be a good thing while you think it over.
 
LilBastage said:
Devil Doc said:
Indeed, there have been times when Andy took people to task for no good reason. This, wasn't one of them. Bigotry, real or imagined should be confronted wherever it rears it's ugly head.

Doc.
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100% agreement, Doc. People need to keep in mind we have members of all backgrounds, ages, upbringings, etc. here. Choosing one's words wisely is a prudent measure to take.

I do think posting the PM was wrong, but this whole thing is nothing to leave over.
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Well said, my dad used to say, "You can't un-ring a bell."
 
I'm on board too, Andy. Ain't no need to go seek a swami or anything. You have us. Civilized men can disagree and talk it out. Civilized men admit when they're wrong and move on. You did that. Do what you must, but nobody worth a shit is going to take this any further or think less of you if you don't go spend time in the penalty box.

One more thing to add: A man says what he thinks and means what he says. I may want to arm wrestle you over a comment, but I'll always respect you that.
 
Gonz said:
I'm going to take a time out now. The majority have spoken and it appears you all feel I was out of line. Since I don't really see it that way yet I feel it's best for me to just walk away. From some of the posts I've read in the past 48 hours there appears to be many here who feel I've got some issues surrounding a need for drama, and have had them for some time.

Perhaps I'll come back this fall and have a different attitude.

Finally, I'm not starting this thread in an effort to get everyone to post some BS "Oh, please Gonz, don't go!". Please know that the easiest way for me to do this is to log off and step away. I don't want this to linger, and I honestly don't want this thread to run three pages of more things I did wrong or things I could have done to change. I just feel like it would have been wrong to disappear.

Take care all.
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Sounds Like the WIFE found the pic's of you and the little hottie at OUTLAW a little out of line

:sign: :sign:
 
souldog24ca said:
Yeahthatsme said:
Don't walk away man. People have their opinions, you have yours, sometimes they differ, no need to leave because a few people don't like your style.
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I can't help but imagine Joe Joe saying this in a big fur coat, pimp feather hat on his dome, two ladies at his sides, smoking a lancero...
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Good stuff Jon.

Of course Andy will be around. I'd drive to Alexandria with a cooler full of Furious... Of course I have the Cooper, so it would be a smaller cooler. :)

My opinion is just a pea in a mound of peas, but I do think that pm was WAY out of line. I think it was right to post it. It was just that bad. How a message like that gets delivered amongst men is beyond me. Still, I'll do my best to reserve ultimate personal judgement on S. Time always tells.
 
tsmckenney said:
souldog24ca said:
Yeahthatsme said:
Don't walk away man. People have their opinions, you have yours, sometimes they differ, no need to leave because a few people don't like your style.
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I can't help but imagine Joe Joe saying this in a big fur coat, pimp feather hat on his dome, two ladies at his sides, smoking a lancero...
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Good stuff Jon.

Of course Andy will be around. I'd drive to Alexandria with a cooler full of Furious... Of course I have the Cooper, so it would be a smaller cooler. :)

My opinion is just a pea in a mound of peas, but I do think that pm was WAY out of line. I think it was right to post it. It was just that bad. How a message like that gets delivered amongst men is beyond me. Still, I'll do my best to reserve ultimate personal judgement on S. Time always tells.
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That will be the true measure of whether or not what was said was a faux pas, or sign of something more serious... :thumbs:
 
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