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mhortsch

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There's this playhouse/shed so to speak (about 5' x 10') in my back yard. I insulated the walls and ceiling this weekend. Went and bought a $20 heater at homedepot, which sucks and needs to be exchanged for something better. Anyways, Im looking for ideas on venting this thing. I smoked a choix while the wife puffed her cigarette, towards the last 1/3, it was too smokey. Which is obvious since there's no ventalation to begin with. At first I was thinking, where the roof meets the wall there is this nook so to speak, I could rig up some sort of fan there.

Any ideas, it needs to be something that plugs in, and I don't want to deface or damage this thing to much... in case I move in the next 5 years. Keep in mind, today for instance, the low is zero. So I'm concerned that this fan is going to not just remove the smoke, but all the heat as well!

Also, if anyone knows of a good electric heater for $50 or so...
 
mhortsch said:
There's this playhouse/shed so to speak (about 5' x 10') in my back yard. I insulated the walls and ceiling this weekend. Went and bought a $20 heater at homedepot, which sucks and needs to be exchanged for something better. Anyways, Im looking for ideas on venting this thing. I smoked a choix while the wife puffed her cigarette, towards the last 1/3, it was too smokey. Which is obvious since there's no ventalation to begin with. At first I was thinking, where the roof meets the wall there is this nook so to speak, I could rig up some sort of fan there.

Any ideas, it needs to be something that plugs in, and I don't want to deface or damage this thing to much... in case I move in the next 5 years. Keep in mind, today for instance, the low is zero. So I'm concerned that this fan is going to not just remove the smoke, but all the heat as well!

Also, if anyone knows of a good electric heater for $50 or so...
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I have an image of you and the wife huddled in this cold little shed in the back yard, puffing away. :laugh:

On another note, maybe something like this would work. They must have one that plugs in.......
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I would think just a simple bathroom fan would do the trick of clearing the smoke, but it's not too hardcore so it won't remove the heat too fast. And bathroom fans usually have a one way trap that helps not allow the cold air in when it's not running.

And then what you should do is figure out a way to turn the heater on a while before you go out there, to get it warmed up, without having to physically go out there. Some sort of remote or switch activated outlet.
 
I just re-read about how it has to plug in, and wouldn't necessarily be hardwired. I'm sure there's a way to add a plug to the wiring instead, ask the well-educated folks at the local hardware store.

And with the electric heater, I guess you could just plug in the extension cord to your house before you go out there.
 
Just finished my smoking room at the end of November, so have some recent experience with this one. We installed a Nutone (ultra-quiet) ventilation fan that turns the air over every nine minutes. It is hard-wired, but can be plugged in (slight modification). In the past, I have used a $30 two-way ventilating window fan from Wal-Mart as well. It works very good...just have to cut a hole if you don't have a window.

Now for your other problem...they all draw out the heat. If you mount it high, it will draw out the heat. That is the same thing I fight in my smoking room. My solution right now is, get it good and warm first, then turn on the ventilation and smoke. It stays reasonable until the cigar is done. My long term solution will be a wood burning stove that produces an abundance of heat...won't have to worry about it.

As for a good $50 heater, get an industrial/shop ceramic heater with a fan. They run less than $50. I have an oscillating heater...it's OK, but does not through out too much heat. Get something oversized as well...around 1500 watts should do it for that small space.

Hope it helps.
 
Gonz said:
I just re-read about how it has to plug in, and wouldn't necessarily be hardwired. I'm sure there's a way to add a plug to the wiring instead, ask the well-educated folks at the local hardware store.

And with the electric heater, I guess you could just plug in the extension cord to your house before you go out there.
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How did I not think of that... but then I'd have to have the cord entering the house some how. Right now, its running to my detached garage. How would one go about modifying a fan? There are windows in there, and my initial impression was to get one of those window box fan dealies. Then attempt to constuct some sort of 'cover', and only turn the fan on when the smoke builds in the room. The cover could act as a shield in the meantime.
 
Gonz said:
I just re-read about how it has to plug in, and wouldn't necessarily be hardwired. I'm sure there's a way to add a plug to the wiring instead, ask the well-educated folks at the local hardware store.

And with the electric heater, I guess you could just plug in the extension cord to your house before you go out there.
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How did I not think of that... but then I'd have to have the cord entering the house some how. Right now, its running to my detached garage. How would one go about modifying a fan? There are windows in there, and my initial impression was to get one of those window box fan dealies. Then attempt to constuct some sort of 'cover', and only turn the fan on when the smoke builds in the room. The cover could act as a shield in the meantime.
 
mhortsch said:
Gonz said:
I just re-read about how it has to plug in, and wouldn't necessarily be hardwired. I'm sure there's a way to add a plug to the wiring instead, ask the well-educated folks at the local hardware store.

And with the electric heater, I guess you could just plug in the extension cord to your house before you go out there.
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How did I not think of that... but then I'd have to have the cord entering the house some how. Right now, its running to my detached garage. How would one go about modifying a fan? There are windows in there, and my initial impression was to get one of those window box fan dealies. Then attempt to constuct some sort of 'cover', and only turn the fan on when the smoke builds in the room. The cover could act as a shield in the meantime.
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The nutone that I have is kind of cool. The motor actually plugs into a junction box on the shell of the fan. The junction box is then hard wired. If you just by-pass the junction box and run the extension cord straight to the motor, you can use it that way. The only problem is that the only control you have is unplugging and plugging it. Got your space, I would just use the window unit. They work great. It should not be hard to come up with some kind of insulated cover...just construct a box and insulate with blue-board. Just some thoughts.
 
First off, all those bathroom vents pictured will move too much air. The smallest Broan is 50-60 CFM and that is what you want to find. You'll need that, a forced air heater and some type of air purifier to make it useable in the winter. IMO.
 
It's amazing what cold winter weather and not being able to smoke inside will make you do. I built a temp. 2x4 shed on my back deck, stuck the porch swing inside, wrapped it with heavy plastic, and since it was only two feet from the dryer vent I ran a flexable vent into the shed, hey fresh air and heat. I then built a vent to stick on the roof and gave it a try. With the dryer on high heat it provided pleanty of warmth, but after about 15 min. it was so smokey that I was getting a headache and my eyes were burning, the dryer was pushing almost no smoke up the vent. After another hour of installing a Wal-mart two-way ventilating window fan, everything worked great. I picked up a $20.00 1500 watt heater, for when it dips down below zero. Just enough room for two to comfortably sit with a small table and enjoy your cigars.
The only draw backs are,
1. After 60 min. the dryer's heater turns off and starts to blow cold air.
2. When you actually use the dryer for it's proper use, the humidity goes up to 100%.
3. The entire time I was building it, I kept thinking "You might be a redneck if!!!!" :blush:

cigardawg said:
Just finished my smoking room at the end of November, so have some recent experience with this one. We installed a Nutone (ultra-quiet) ventilation fan that turns the air over every nine minutes. It is hard-wired, but can be plugged in (slight modification). In the past, I have used a $30 two-way ventilating window fan from Wal-Mart as well. It works very good...just have to cut a hole if you don't have a window.
Now for your other problem...they all draw out the heat. If you mount it high, it will draw out the heat. That is the same thing I fight in my smoking room. My solution right now is, get it good and warm first, then turn on the ventilation and smoke. It stays reasonable until the cigar is done. My long term solution will be a wood burning stove that produces an abundance of heat...won't have to worry about it.
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This thread reminds me of the Cheech and Chong movies :laugh: :laugh:

Randy...A plastic smoking shack, that is classic :whistling: :cool:
 
You should see it, It looks even worse than it sounds, but it is warm, and
out of the wind. The other option would have been to do all my smoking after 11:00 pm at the DQ after it closes for the night, although it took about a half a can of air freshener the next morning at opening time to make it not smell like cigars.
 
I've got a 12x10 shed I'm thinking of insulating and using for my woodshop/smoke room. Running power out to it this spring so I can use the power tools, install a heater, fan, etc. I've already got my Polk Audio outdoor speakers mounted in there....next will be cable tv.

The windows have screens for the spring and fall, worked great then. Wife thinks I'm nuts for siting out but it works for me.... :laugh:
 
If you don't have electricity and don't want big holes, how about hooking up a couple of 120mm computer fans to a 9v battery. It's cheap and easily hidden. Put one by where you smoke and the other by your wife. I can guarantee that if you blow the smoke towards them, they'll remove it all.
 
Lee, combo woodshop/smoke shack, that's sweet, just remember to empty your saw dust trimmings or you won't have any shack to speak of. And, having said that, don't keep your humidor in there in case of emergency. The beetle pictures are bad, but I couldn't imagine pictures of a woodshop/smoke shack/humidor inferno.
 
Some very good ideas, I like the computer fans, I just can't imagine a little fan like that would remove the stagnant smoke that doesn't make it in the general direction.

AVB - You care to elaborate on your description. What's a Broan 50-60 and can it be plugged in? And what is the purpose of the air purifier?

Im starting to think the window fan is the way to go, finding it will be hard as it's out of season here.

Any other recommendations on a heater? Ive heard ceramic and forced air? Any specific models?
 
The smallest Broan bathroom vent moves 50-60 CFM at a lower RPM and quieter. While you can get 100-110 CFM 120mm muffin fans they will make a fair amount of noise.

The air purifier is for just that, to clean up the air that doesn't get vented. Venting isn't 100% effective. Also, you should think about a timeer for the fan so it will run for 10-15 minutes after you leave to keep the room from smelling too much like old smoke the next time you use it.
 
AVB said:
Also, you should think about a timeer for the fan so it will run for 10-15 minutes after you leave to keep the room from smelling too much like old smoke the next time you use it.
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I actually use a Csonka Air Purifier (Ozonator) to remove the smoke odors. The vent fan keeps the room clear and the ozone knocks out any residual odors with 24 hours. It's a great combination.
 
mhortsch said:
What do you guys think of this heater? A buddy at work has one, and is quite fond of it, although he's exchaning it for the bigger one, since its for his garage


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Do you guys like that invisible link I included?

http://www.mrheater.com/productdetail.asp?id=678
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I saw this post and did some research. I went and bought one on Saturday. Used it at our poker game on Saturday night. Great heater. :thumbs: Provided just the right amount of warmth.
 
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