stepthirteen
Either get busy living, or get busy dying
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Thanks for the link, I think I will be purchasing shortly.
I wouldn't begrudge anbody else.................But, Holt's will not be seeing any more of my money after that whole Padilla "Buh Bye" episode.
I wouldn't begrudge anbody else.................But, Holt's will not be seeing any more of my money after that whole Padilla "Buh Bye" episode.
I wouldn't begrudge anbody else.................But, Holt's will not be seeing any more of my money after that whole Padilla "Buh Bye" episode.
While I certainly can understand your position, and I will never begrudge a man for his convictions, this is getting to the point where there is almost no one left to buy from. Can't buy Tatuaje's because Pete has bad people skills. Can't buy from Holt's because they blasted Padilla. Can't buy from Pepin because he is cutting ties with those that helped him make his name. Can't buy from Fuente because they price gouge, and their all about making money not putting out a good product. Can't buy from cigarbid because there stuff isn't shipped properly. (Yes all of these are arguements I have heard on here at one time or another).
The fact is, IN MY OPINION ONLY, that I am a consumer, and I am looking for the best product at the best price. Yes, customer service is important, but let's be honest, not many places have good customer service left these days. I appreciate people on here sharing their experiences with retailers, and it gives me an idea of what to expect, but it seems like if you quit dealing with places everytime someone else has a bad experience, there would be no one left to buy from.
I wouldn't begrudge anbody else.................But, Holt's will not be seeing any more of my money after that whole Padilla "Buh Bye" episode.
While I certainly can understand your position, and I will never begrudge a man for his convictions, this is getting to the point where there is almost no one left to buy from. Can't buy Tatuaje's because Pete has bad people skills. Can't buy from Holt's because they blasted Padilla. Can't buy from Pepin because he is cutting ties with those that helped him make his name. Can't buy from Fuente because they price gouge, and their all about making money not putting out a good product. Can't buy from cigarbid because there stuff isn't shipped properly. (Yes all of these are arguements I have heard on here at one time or another).
The fact is, IN MY OPINION ONLY, that I am a consumer, and I am looking for the best product at the best price. Yes, customer service is important, but let's be honest, not many places have good customer service left these days. I appreciate people on here sharing their experiences with retailers, and it gives me an idea of what to expect, but it seems like if you quit dealing with places everytime someone else has a bad experience, there would be no one left to buy from.
I wouldn't begrudge anbody else.................But, Holt's will not be seeing any more of my money after that whole Padilla "Buh Bye" episode.
While I certainly can understand your position, and I will never begrudge a man for his convictions, this is getting to the point where there is almost no one left to buy from. Can't buy Tatuaje's because Pete has bad people skills. Can't buy from Holt's because they blasted Padilla. Can't buy from Pepin because he is cutting ties with those that helped him make his name. Can't buy from Fuente because they price gouge, and their all about making money not putting out a good product. Can't buy from cigarbid because there stuff isn't shipped properly. (Yes all of these are arguements I have heard on here at one time or another).
The fact is, IN MY OPINION ONLY, that I am a consumer, and I am looking for the best product at the best price. Yes, customer service is important, but let's be honest, not many places have good customer service left these days. I appreciate people on here sharing their experiences with retailers, and it gives me an idea of what to expect, but it seems like if you quit dealing with places everytime someone else has a bad experience, there would be no one left to buy from.
I wouldn't begrudge anbody else.................But, Holt's will not be seeing any more of my money after that whole Padilla "Buh Bye" episode.
While I certainly can understand your position, and I will never begrudge a man for his convictions, this is getting to the point where there is almost no one left to buy from. Can't buy Tatuaje's because Pete has bad people skills. Can't buy from Holt's because they blasted Padilla. Can't buy from Pepin because he is cutting ties with those that helped him make his name. Can't buy from Fuente because they price gouge, and their all about making money not putting out a good product. Can't buy from cigarbid because there stuff isn't shipped properly. (Yes all of these are arguements I have heard on here at one time or another).
The fact is, IN MY OPINION ONLY, that I am a consumer, and I am looking for the best product at the best price. Yes, customer service is important, but let's be honest, not many places have good customer service left these days. I appreciate people on here sharing their experiences with retailers, and it gives me an idea of what to expect, but it seems like if you quit dealing with places everytime someone else has a bad experience, there would be no one left to buy from.
Let me hit on a couple of points here:
I do appreciate all of the information that is shared here in regards to vendors, sellers, etc. It does help to make informed decissions on products and places to buy them. I don't let people's opinions completely sway me, but I do listen to them (especially when it's someone with a lot of experience, or someone that I respect a great deal, which is most of you.)
I buy most of my cigars either on the b/s/t forum here, or at the Outlaw. I trust buying from the guys on here, and haven't had a bad deal yet. I also like the guys at the Outlaw because of the customer service I get there from Brad and the guys, so yes customer service does go a long way with me. As far as the large online retailers like Holts, Cigars Intl, etc, I honestly don't expect much in terms of customer service. I know that going in, so if it ends up biting me in the rear, I won't be completely let down by it. I look at online retailers the same as I do the chain stores. I don't expect my food to look the like the picture on the sign at McDonalds, and I don't expect the kid at Home Depot to know what a lag bolt is. I know it shouldn't be that way, but that's how I approach it.
Again, I'm not knocking any of you for your decision to support or not support anyone, and I do appreciate the information. I just hope (and I know this is the case) that if I choose to ignore your advice you won't hold it against me.