bilder
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Let the run for daylight begin!!
From an Alaskan standpoint, it is all good from here till Summer Solstice.
From an Alaskan standpoint, it is all good from here till Summer Solstice.
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Happy Solstice
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CoventryCat86
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Why are you now talking about December of 2007, that's next year? The winter solstice for 2006 was indeed today at 1335hrs EST but that doesn't change the fact that the day this year with the shortest number of hours of daylight is December 22, not December 21st.
You are correct that the solstice is an exact moment in time, there's no confusion about that but the point is that just because the winter solstice happened today (in yours and my case which is the Eastern Time Zone) that does not automatically mean that today has the least amount of daylight.
And yes I live in Connecticut but how is tht relevant to the discussion?
Devil Doc
When Death smiles, Corpsmen smile back
Sorr;y, 2007 was a typo. I'm not disagreeing with you.
Doc.
Doc.
CoventryCat86
Corresponding authority
Well if 2007 was a typo then you and I do indeed disagree on the time then, my source (my ex-wife) says it was today at 1:35 pm and you're saying it's at 5:22 pm.
I learned long ago NOT to argue with my ex-wife so you're going to have to do that. :laugh:
Trust me, it's just easier to say she's right.
I learned long ago NOT to argue with my ex-wife so you're going to have to do that. :laugh:
Trust me, it's just easier to say she's right.
Devil Doc
When Death smiles, Corpsmen smile back
Well, your wife is in disagreement with the NOAA. :whistling: It's actually 1722 EST. Were're both wrong.
Doc.
Doc.
CoventryCat86
Corresponding authority
Well God help the NOAA because I can guarantee that they'll lose an argument with her.
The NOAA site says 1922 EST.
Geez Doc, I dunno I think you're losing it! :laugh:
PetersCreek
Codger-in-training
Take a gander at the data services available on the U.S. Naval Observatory website.
Tomorrow will bring us 5 hours, 23 minutes of daylight at the house in Peters Creek...
Tomorrow will bring us 5 hours, 23 minutes of daylight at the house in Peters Creek...
USNO said:
Devil Doc
When Death smiles, Corpsmen smile back
I gotta get my eyes checked.
Doc.
Doc.
CoventryCat86
Corresponding authority
Another question, where in hell did you get this from? It doesn't matter if you're in the midwest or on Mars, the time of the Solstice is still 1922 EST or 1822 CST or 1722 MST or 0022 GMT on December 22nd.
You're totally confusing me.....
PetersCreek
Codger-in-training
My appointment is on the 27th. My arms are anywhere near long enough anymore.
tigger
gutter-grade asstrash
Wouldn't different orbits make for different solstisosity?
From NOAA :
WINTER SOLSTICE....(WINTER) DEC 21 2006 722 PM EST - 0022 UTC DEC 22
Some sites have the 0022 time listed as UT.
PetersCreek
Codger-in-training
Yep...having a different axis tilt and a longer orbital period than Earth, Mars will also have different solstices.
UT is pretty much the same thing as GT...but in astronomy circles, UTC (Coordinated Universal Time) is frequently used.
UT is pretty much the same thing as GT...but in astronomy circles, UTC (Coordinated Universal Time) is frequently used.
CoventryCat86
Corresponding authority
Doc said this:
You're missing my the point of my "Mars" reference which was that the Earth's Winter Solstice this year happens at a SPECIFIC TIME that DOES NOT change no matter what time zone you happen to be in or what planet you happen to be on at the time. I still don't know why he said that the solstice occurs at a different time in the midwest because to the best of my knowledge is does not.
Devil Doc
When Death smiles, Corpsmen smile back
Sorry Bill, I think I just misread or misinterpreted the information. Sorry to have caused you any consternation. My post was intended to be historical in nature. As I said before, I know nothing of astronomy. I do think I confused UT time with CST and EST however and that could be the source of my errors.
Doc.
Doc.
PetersCreek
Codger-in-training
Sorry...I was just responding to tigger in an aside. You're absolutely right that the solstices...and equinoxes...occur at a single, precise moment for the entire planet, without regard to where one might be at that moment. So, whether one is on Mars or in the midwest, the Sun will reach its maximum declination from the Earth's celestial equator at the same moment.
CoventryCat86
Corresponding authority
Oh Doc, no need to apologize, my original point was regarding the statement that the shortest day is on the same day as the Winter Solstice which is SOMETIMES true but not always as is the case this year. I have seen that statement in other places and my point is it's not an accurate one and I only meant to clarify that.
Secondary to all that, Josh and Gary then decided to poke fun at me which is all fine and good :laugh: then pornorico came along and showed his stupid ass. I'm still waiting for him to justify how my first post in this thread was "negative"
or acknowledge that he was wrong and out of line. My guess is he will do neither and figure that by ingoring his ignorance and stupidity, it will just automatically go away which it won't.Ya gotta learn that these Connecticut guys (tigger, smokelaw1 and grateful1) are a buncha clowns that just like to bust my stones. :laugh:
Izzydunyet
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hey kid,, opus X? is that what ya forgot to give me to taste test?;;lol :love: :love: :love: :sign:
Hows the wrist commin along........
PetersCreek
Codger-in-training
What is this "Connecticut" of which you speak? Isn't that one of the little States?
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