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What is sad and pathetic about those guys that think alterior motives need to do one simple thing. Stop a minute...Look at their surrounds...Then look at their situation. And come to a simple conclusion. They are in the Service and serving in Wartime. I havent seen a greater bond of friendship than those that get developed. Maybe those Rear guys dont develope the bonds like Infantry, Marine Recon, Army Scouts, etc etc etc.. The ones that have to stare death in the face and rely on your buddies as a lifeline. It just appauls me that people in that situation would even think such a thing. Basically someone should take them behind hte wood shed and beat the shit out of them till they come to their senses.
 
Sounds like jealousy, pure and simple. Unless you are among the fortunate and know what true friendship is like, I suppose it could seem strange. What a sad but telling comment on his life. Add the stress of the job those brave folks do, and that might explain how a jealous, lonely person would say such things. Explain, not justify.

Swissy, your buddy knows where you are coming from, and appreciates it more than you may know at this point. I'd "Rock On" with the packages and let the naysayers gnash their teeth all they want.... :cool:

Best Regards - B.B.S.
 
I can't say anything that hasn't already been said. Some people don't understand real friendship, and they never will. If someone doesn't udnerstand why a buddy would send a package of comfort to another buddy while deployed, they don't see friends the way we do.
They might take a punch for a buddy, or lend them money IF ASKED, but to think about someone else's comfort and enjoyment, and send them something to make their lives a little better...it just wouldn't occur to them. To then claim you guys must be "patently gay," just shows how far from understanding they are.

Josh "I guess I'm patently gay...don't tell my wife" Kaufman
 
Absolutely not weird, I have several buddies that are overseas right now, and my better half and I have supplied them with tons of stuff from home. To them it makes all the difference. It is not like they can go down to the corner store or cook up their favorite foods. As I have been told, "the desert is a terrible fuckin place." Stuff from home makes it a little more bearable. It is what friends do for each other.
 
Ok, I kinda thought that would be the response here. I just don't get how someone could not see the friendship thru the actions.

And for the record- I am not, have not, and will not, be bothered by this. I personally don't give a flying rat's ass about what someone else thinks, period. If someone wants to assume I'm sucking up, furthering my career, or gay, just because I'm doing nice things for my friends, then so be it. I must be one gay son of a biyotch! Just wait'll the next box arrives! :cool: I've already gotten my buddy to agree not to open it until everyone is assembled for 'cigar night'! :0 Of course he'll have to take some lumps for it, but we agreed that the look on their faces will be priceless. He has no idea what I'm sending, but he knows me and that's enought for him. there'll be mention of 2 boxes, one for him and one for the cigar crowd, and he'll 'accidentally' open the wrong one.

Muhahahahahahahahahaha...
 
Hell I know one of my friends good friends is over in Iraq, only meet him twice but I was planning on sending him a package. I don’t think its jealousy its unfortunate but its how some people are raised or the type of friends they have. I’m fortune enough to have a great group of friends who are always looking out for each other. I also have another good friend who the last time I was at his place with someone else actually asked me “Can I trust this guy in my house”. The statement shocked me. I guess he’s not used to having too many people he can trust. The concept of this whole board bewilders some people. Guess it’s a damn shame what kind of world we live in. That’s why I say surround your self with good people and good things will happen.
 
I used to do a lot of international work, setting up factories and what not all across the globe. As a result, I gained a lot of experience dealing with people of different cultures on a long-term basis (it takes 6 months or more to get these factories built and operational). I learned a lot of things. Relavent here:

You would not believe how common using "influence" is in some places. I don't just mean the places you would think (India, Indonesia, China), but places you would think have moved past that (Germany, Japan, New Zealand). I'm not going to use the stronger word "corruption" to describe it, because I don't think the motives are necessarily bad in doing it. But it's pretty common to expect something in return for a gift, as well as to expect a gift before doing something. If you come from a culture where gifts are usually part of a value exchange, you're going to expect that other places are the same, just as you expected that gifts would be seen as altruistic.

I know this stuff goes on in the US as well, but in my experience it's not nearly as common, nor nearly as brazen and open.

Now, I'm going to go off topic...

One thing that I find interesting. In the US, you often here people complain that we just don't value family as much anymore. And it's true: Most people don't think it's their obligation to have their parents move in with them when they retire. They don't have regular meals with the extended family. They don't make a point of stopping in to see a distant cousin when you're vacationing just 50 miles away from where they live. In other cultures, all of these things are done.

But you know what else we don't have as much of? Nepotism (unless you're the president, that is ;) ). We also don't have cousins rigging the hiring process to get their aunts slow son a job. We don't have companies that lose money on some accounts because the buyer in a certain department is the uncle of the salesman at another company. We don't have 15 people show up at our house when they find out that we got a job, expecting either a hand out or for you to get them a job, too. Your aunt won't ask you to steal from your boss, and you wouldn't feel obligated to do it if they asked.

My wife comes from a culture that places a very high value on family. They place that value on the family not because it's respectful, but because it's to their benefit to do so. My mother-in-law could be dropped into any city in the world, and within 72 hours she would've found a relative, borrowed enough money to start a business, and would have her first customers lined up.

Of course, she'd be obligated to do the same thing, as well. And whenever she travels she has to carry an extra suitcase just for all the gifts. Gifts for everyone, no matter how distant a relative, who might be within 100 miles of the place she's visiting. And she'll still be surprised by some relative from Timbuktu who heard she was visiting and decided to drive 200 miles to see her (oh, and to see if she might give them a job for a few months, because they lost a lot of money playing mah jong last month).

Anyway, it's cool that you think enough of your friend to send a gift and expect nothing in return. Not everyone is lucky enough to have that, or even to come from a culture where that's normal.

KevPriest
 
Hey Jimbo ..... I know you'll show them how a true friend treats his buddies :laugh:

From what I have seen, I do believe that the generosity that you've shown your friend is much more uncommon than many of us would like to believe. At Casa Sanchez we hold wine & food parties regularly for friends and family. Every now and then we'll invite somebody who isn't a regular and they are always very surprised at the generosity displayed by us and our guests. But the interesting thing to me is how quickly these people open up to the idea of sharing & giving once they see it in practice. The PIF has become a regular feature at our parties :thumbs:

:cool:
 
Of course he'll have to take some lumps for it, but we agreed that the look on their faces will be priceless. He has no idea what I'm sending, but he knows me and that's enought for him. there'll be mention of 2 boxes, one for him and one for the cigar crowd, and he'll 'accidentally' open the wrong one.

Muhahahahahahahahahaha...

Jim, You can't send gay porn to the troops. It's aginst the rules.
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Ok, I kinda thought that would be the response here. I just don't get how someone could not see the friendship thru the actions.

And for the record- I am not, have not, and will not, be bothered by this. I personally don't give a flying rat's ass about what someone else thinks, period. If someone wants to assume I'm sucking up, furthering my career, or gay, just because I'm doing nice things for my friends, then so be it. I must be one gay son of a biyotch! Just wait'll the next box arrives! :cool: I've already gotten my buddy to agree not to open it until everyone is assembled for 'cigar night'! :0 Of course he'll have to take some lumps for it, but we agreed that the look on their faces will be priceless. He has no idea what I'm sending, but he knows me and that's enought for him. there'll be mention of 2 boxes, one for him and one for the cigar crowd, and he'll 'accidentally' open the wrong one.

Muhahahahahahahahahaha...
I really hope your buddy has a camera when he opens the package on 'cigar night'. I would really like to see those pics. I can only imagine what is in the boxes.
 
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