Fakes

[Anthem]

I think in the discussion about fakes you have to include the idea of supply and demand in the conversation.

-Can Cuban satisfy the demand the US market will have for it's tobacco while still supplying the rest of the world's demand?

-If it cannot supply the retailers here and abroad, then will counterfeit profiteers (again, across the world) have more advantage to advance their crimes?

-Reason, to me, seems to say Cuba would have a hard time keeping up for awhile, even if they could really see it coming for lets say a year. So to answer Bruce's question, I think Ed hit it on the head, like any luxury item, the criminal element will always take every advantage available, and probably more so at first.

 

[suprchunk]

Couple accused of spying for Cuba for 30 years

An indictment unsealed Friday said Walter Kendall Myers worked his way into higher and higher U.S. security clearances while secretly partnering with his wife, Gwendolyn Steingraber Myers, as clandestine agents so valued by the Cuban government that they once had a private four-hour meeting with President Fidel Castro.


This all I have to say on this matter

Uh, thanks for clearing up the matter of fake CCs when the embargo is lifted.

 

[mmburtch]

But will the fakes be cello on or off?

 

[Mr_Wolf]

mmm...I disagree with that. Look at what they do to the HTF stuff now. If they'll gouge Opus & Anejo's, what do you think they'll do to the now "legal" Cuban's? And that unfortunately will include fakes. There will probably be more of an incentive to make fakes because you'll see them in 7-11's, liquor store, etc. More retail space + higher prices=more fakes. Some humans are greedy lot. Remember these are the Holy Grail for millions of people. Look at how many unsuspecting tourists get ripped off every year as it is now. As for the economy, people will always find a way to buy something that they think is "cool" whether they can afford it or not.

 

[mmburtch]

you'll see them in 7-11's, liquor store, etc. More retail space + higher prices=more fakes.

Sounds like my last trip to Canada. "Genuine Cuban Cigars" were everywhere

 

[baldheadracing]

Sounds like my last trip to Canada. "Genuine Cuban Cigars" were everywhere

Yup, genuine Cuban cigars are everywhere here :thumbs: .

Unfortunately, so are fake Cohiba's, fake Monte #2's, fake Party SD #4's, fake EL's (and some fake Opus X).

Locally, I haven't seen any other cigars faked - yet.

 

[simmsboard]

To me the thinking is "if and when" the ban was to be lifted there would be a large increase in fakes placed in the U.S. market. It will be up to the smoker to have already figured out what shops you had trust in, and saw as the owners as BOTL's and not just out to make a buck.

My quess is the first year that Cubans become legal in the states there is a large part of the population that have no idea "fake" cuban cigars even exist, and you best get use to saying "wow a Cuban cigar ... hey and you got it in that nice glass topped box...thank you"

Hell maybe folks will buy fakes and say whats the big deal about these things and walk away from cigars, but thats me just being greedy.


Joe G