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Demineralized VS Distilled

Michal

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I tried to purchase distilled water in few shops but cant find it anywhere. Everywhere they only have demineralized water and used to say thet its the same as distilled. I checked few webpages and saw thet for reall its not the same, sooo...?

Who is telling me the truth? :/
 
Go for distilled. Kinda odd you can't find any...
 
You could make your own...
You'd have to create a still of sorts...
Boil water through a condenser and then catch the distilled water.
Wouldn't be too much trouble if you are handy!

-Rob
 
You could make your own...
You'd have to create a still of sorts...
Boil water through a condenser and then catch the distilled water.
Wouldn't be too much trouble if you are handy!

-Rob

All you need is a coil of tubing(copper?) and a way to get the steam into it.
 
Maybe my science background can help here.

There are a few ways to demineralize water:

1) distill it
2) chemically treat it, then filter it
3) electrolyze it
4) evaporation/condensation

Distillation removes minerals, but leaves ions
which can be formed from gases in the air, like
CO2 forming carbonic acid. Further treatment of
distilled water by bubbling nitrogen (inert)
through it, forces out the gaseous ions giving
distilled AND deionized water. I only had to
use deionized water in experiments a few times.
(but I didn't work in science after schooling)

Water with minerals and ions in it will not be pH 7,
which is totally neutral, acid/base. If your water
is basic, like lime water, you could add an acid to
precipitate out the base, then filter the sediment.
Water that's a bit acid could be treated with a base,
in a similar fashion.
This is not as easy/good as distilling.

Using electricity you can remove metals and minerals
from water. But above a certain voltage, the water
itself breaks down into hydrogen and oxygen, so not
all minerals will be removed.

You can also use evaporation to get distilled water.
But it's a slow, low volume process. Basically
slooooow distillation, sometimes taught/used in survival
training.

Really for all practical purposes you can/should use
distilled water. You can get it at Wally World,
Rite Aid, CVS, grocery stores, etc. Just ask, if you
can't find it. Deionized water isn't necessary,
since it will pick up gases while sitting in a humidor/
humidifier, anyway.

BTW, you should only use distilled water in a clothes iron.
If you don't, over time you'll see the mineral deposits
around the steam holes, similar to the mineral deposits
at the base of geysers. They will eventually clog up
the steam holes.

Chemyst :cool:
 
You could make your own...
You'd have to create a still of sorts...
Boil water through a condenser and then catch the distilled water.
Wouldn't be too much trouble if you are handy!

-Rob
Yep, I know its not complicated, but ofcourse it is much easier to buy a bottle ;)


Maybe my science background can help here.

There are a few ways to demineralize water:

1) distill it
so... it looks like distilled water is demineralized water, right? ???



BTW, you should only use distilled water in a clothes iron.
If you don't, over time you'll see the mineral deposits
around the steam holes, similar to the mineral deposits
at the base of geysers. They will eventually clog up
the steam holes.
Yep, but ofcourse its not for iron but for beads in Puck, I just dont want to break it using it first time :/
 
I have a seperate humi for my grape owls.

I charge my beads with grape Kool-Aid. Really adds to the flavor.



















:)
 
Your local "Mega-Mart" doesn't carry it? Can find it in most any grocery store, usually.
 
Your local "Mega-Mart" doesn't carry it? Can find it in most any grocery store, usually.
Yes, they all have, but only demineralized water, and they all say its the same as distilled :/

Maybe there is no difference for car accumulator but can be for beads, right?
 
If you look it says he's in Warsaw and may not have the same access we do. I would say that demineralized should work just fine.

Your local "Mega-Mart" doesn't carry it? Can find it in most any grocery store, usually.
 
I don't have any distilled out here in Iraq, so I've used de-ionized water for the past 11 months.

I get that from the motorpool guys, they use it for batteries. Works fine.
 
I would say that demineralized should work just fine.
ok, I'll use it soon, but if my Puck will explode, it will all be your fault ;)

I don't have any distilled out here in Iraq, so I've used de-ionized water for the past 11 months.
Great! de-ionized it for sure the same as demineralized.
Thanks Brick, thats just what I needed - someone with demineralized water experience :)
 
I would say that demineralized should work just fine.
ok, I'll use it soon, but if my Puck will explode, it will all be your fault ;)

I don't have any distilled out here in Iraq, so I've used de-ionized water for the past 11 months.
Great! de-ionized it for sure the same as demineralized.
Thanks Brick, thats just what I needed - someone with demineralized water experience :)

Michal, what is the Polish for demineralized vs. deionized water? I'll ask my dad about it - he received all his Phd training in Poland so he knows how the terms go back and forth from English to Polish, we might even be talking about the same thing and just not realizing it.
 
Michal, what is the Polish for demineralized vs. deionized water? I'll ask my dad about it - he received all his Phd training in Poland so he knows how the terms go back and forth from English to Polish, we might even be talking about the same thing and just not realizing it.

If I got what You mean its:

demineralized water - woda demineralizowana
deionized water - woda dejonizowana
distilled water - woda destylowana

I think its very possible that your dad will say that distilled and demineralized water is the same thing, but if he had some chemical training it would be good to ask. Thanks.
 
You could make your own...
You'd have to create a still of sorts...
Boil water through a condenser and then catch the distilled water.
Wouldn't be too much trouble if you are handy!

-Rob


Whoa!!! There is alot of effort that goes into buidling a proper still.
 
BTW, you should only use distilled water in a clothes iron.
If you don't, over time you'll see the mineral deposits
around the steam holes, similar to the mineral deposits
at the base of geysers. They will eventually clog up
the steam holes.

Chemyst :cool:

Very good post.

The above paragraph is exactly why you should only use distilled water. The same "clogging" will eventually occur with the beads since there is no way for the minerals to get out.

David
 
Maybe my science background can help here.

There are a few ways to demineralize water:

1) distill it
2) chemically treat it, then filter it
3) electrolyze it
4) evaporation/condensation

Distillation removes minerals, but leaves ions
which can be formed from gases in the air, like
CO2 forming carbonic acid. Further treatment of
distilled water by bubbling nitrogen (inert)
through it, forces out the gaseous ions giving
distilled AND deionized water. I only had to
use deionized water in experiments a few times.
(but I didn't work in science after schooling)

Water with minerals and ions in it will not be pH 7,
which is totally neutral, acid/base. If your water
is basic, like lime water, you could add an acid to
precipitate out the base, then filter the sediment.
Water that's a bit acid could be treated with a base,
in a similar fashion.
This is not as easy/good as distilling.

Using electricity you can remove metals and minerals
from water. But above a certain voltage, the water
itself breaks down into hydrogen and oxygen, so not
all minerals will be removed.

You can also use evaporation to get distilled water.
But it's a slow, low volume process. Basically
slooooow distillation, sometimes taught/used in survival
training.

Really for all practical purposes you can/should use
distilled water. You can get it at Wally World,
Rite Aid, CVS, grocery stores, etc. Just ask, if you
can't find it. Deionized water isn't necessary,
since it will pick up gases while sitting in a humidor/
humidifier, anyway.

BTW, you should only use distilled water in a clothes iron.
If you don't, over time you'll see the mineral deposits
around the steam holes, similar to the mineral deposits
at the base of geysers. They will eventually clog up
the steam holes.

Chemyst :cool:
You forgot the time honored chartered boat to the nearest glacier. Too easy? :D

Michal's claim of there only being demineralized water indicates this is also used in irons.
That is, they must use something in their electric irons, right? Perhaps that is just the term for distilled water in his area. Or distilled is translated as demineralized. In fact, the word is not in my dictionary, although it is an abridged one.
 
Few days ago I tried once again to buy distilled water. Ofcourse shop owner told he got it, but as always it was demineralized, but...! on the bottles label there was big 'demineralized water' inscription and below it the small one 'distiled water'

so we have another proof that its the same :)
 
Few days ago I tried once again to buy distilled water. Ofcourse shop owner told he got it, but as always it was demineralized, but...! on the bottles label there was big 'demineralized water' inscription and below it the small one 'distiled water'

so we have another proof that its the same :)
I think it's just nomenclature. I say go for it!
 
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