Deleting Content Valuable to CP

[Gonz]

I'm having a hard time putting this into the words of a mature adult, but I'm going to try.


Unfortunately every now and then someone that at one point was a well respected contributing member decides to leave our community for whatever reasons. I sincerely hope that in the future if anyone out there who has contributed to this community decides to leave they don't go through and delete their previous contributions. No matter what your beef is, or what happens to lead you to a point where you leave us, please be an adult about it.



[adult speak off] In other words, don't be a whiny punk-ass bitch and delete your old posts, specifically reviews that others may have found useful. You are not doing yourself any favors if you decide to go elsewhere. In your own words, the online cigar community is a small world. [adult speak back on]

Thank you to everyone still here for your consideration in this matter.


edited to add: Sorry, I didn't see your thread Rod. I should really learn that darn search feature! (Ha Gary, I beat you to it!)

 

[junkman_56]

[adult speak off] In other words, don't be a whiny punk-ass bitch and delete your old posts, specifically reviews that others may have found useful. You are not doing yourself any favors if you decide to go elsewhere. In your own words, the online cigar community is a small world. [adult speak back on]

Well said Gonz

 

[JayBay]

All I can think about is how much time it must have taken to go through and delete that mass amount of content. That must be one helluva a resentment he's totin' around.

 

[NullSmurf]

If this doesn't earn Wilkey an exalted perch on Moki's scumbag list, I don't know what would. I know a couple of us have sent warning messages to the owners of his last online bastions, International Cigar Club and Friends of Habanos.

 

[SamClemmons]

I don't think "permantately" is a word.

NA

 

[MX]

This is just one more bizarre turn.

It seems like the last 6 or 7 months we have been experiencing some growing pains. I think that there has been a funky vibe ever since the Poker and Chat thing went down. It seems that a lot of feathers were ruffled, and it is taking a while for us to come back together. I may be 100% wrong, on the cause but, in my mind that was at least the time frame. I have even found myself wanting to get involved and stir the pot, but I have held my tongue. I have kept quite because I know that there will be someone with more tenure and wisdom that will be able to handle the situation better than I. So that wold only leave me with a "where is the popcorn" post or maybe the "I am rolling my eyes" smiley to post, and to me those are nothing more that troll bait, and I try to be above that.

This is the first place I visit in the morning, and the last before I turn in at night. That is because there are some damn fine S/BOTL here. And one hell of an owner, that we all owe a dept of thanks and gratitude to.

Now to the ppoint of your post Gonz;

I always considered Wilkey a friend, he always treated me with respect, and help me out with a number of issues that he seemed to be most knowledgeable on. I have sat here in disbelief for the past week or so as all this carnage has unfolded before me. But, whatever my feeling for Mr. Wong, they do not skew my perceptions on bit. He was wrong, plane and simple. He had his reasons I am sure, but that does not make them right. It was a slap in the face to everyone on this board, and even more so to those that held him in high regard. I am dissappointed to say the least.

Just my thoughts, probably missed the mark, but I often do.

Tim

 

[Putz Mulligan]

This is just one more bizarre turn.

It seems like the last 6 or 7 months we have been experiencing some growing pains. I think that there has been a funky vibe ever since the Poker and Chat thing went down. It seems that a lot of feathers were ruffled, and it is taking a while for us to come back together. I may be 100% wrong, on the cause but, in my mind that was at least the time frame. I have even found myself wanting to get involved and stir the pot, but I have held my tongue. I have kept quite because I know that there will be someone with more tenure and wisdom that will be able to handle the situation better than I. So that wold only leave me with a "where is the popcorn" post or maybe the "I am rolling my eyes" smiley to post, and to me those are nothing more that troll bait, and I try to be above that.

This is the first place I visit in the morning, and the last before I turn in at night. That is because there are some damn fine S/BOTL here. And one hell of an owner, that we all owe a dept of thanks and gratitude to.

Now to the ppoint of your post Gonz;

I always considered Wilkey a friend, he always treated me with respect, and help me out with a number of issues that he seemed to be most knowledgeable on. I have sat here in disbelief for the past week or so as all this carnage has unfolded before me. But, whatever my feeling for Mr. Wong, they do not skew my perceptions on bit. He was wrong, plane and simple. He had his reasons I am sure, but that does not make them right. It was a slap in the face to everyone on this board, and even more so to those that held him in high regard. I am dissappointed to say the least.

Just my thoughts, probably missed the mark, but I often do.

Tim

I agree with you Tim, that this is one more bizarre turn in the world of CP as we know it but I must ask, why bring up issues that have little to do with the situation at hand? I think Rod has stated his position quite clearly with regards to chat and poker. You stating this does nothing but “ruffle feathers” as you stated in your own post. Why kick a dead horse?

As for Wilkey, he is much like a newb in the sense that his "ego was not checked at the door". He approached CP with a sense of entitlement and tried to gloss over a few bad deals. Everyone talks about respect and the fact that it is earned, not freely given here on CP. It’s not a post count or how many bombs you send. As with anything in life, your credibility can be torn down by one bad transaction. Or to dumb it down even more, you are only as good as your last deal.

I am saddened as much as the next but Wilkey has chosen his path.

 

[Swissy]

"copyrighted material removed by author"

good grief... someone is wound a little too tight methinks...

 

[grateful1]

:laugh:

'Gonz' and 'adult speak' in the same sentence!

:laugh: :laugh:

 

[Outsidesmoke]

At least all the information was backed up by rod. We get the last laugh, and he just spent a couple hours deleting all of his posts :laugh:

 

[in2xshp]

This has gotten way out of hand. He "was" a fairly respected member of this community, it was crazy to hear what went on here the last few weeks. Now this, what the hell is this man thinking? I can't believe he actually spent the time to delete the reviews he had done here. As Rod said "this is really taking your ball and going home", I mean holy crap, does he really hold himself on such a high plateau, does he really think he is the next coming? I didn't get a chance to respond to Rod's post earlier before it got locked so sorry if it's already been said.

I'm just floored that this happened this way. Also thanks for backing up the reviews Rod.

Sam

 

[BlindedByScience]

The facts as I know them are that posts made to public boards (like this one) become "public domain" and become the property of the forum owner.

The exception would be if copyright is claimed in each post, and the forum owner agrees to allow posting of copyrighted material in advance of the posting. I am pretty sure that didn't happen.

Rod has every right to permaban Wilkey and then restore each and every post he ever made......which is a sad, disappointing turn of events coming from someone we all thought we knew.

B.B.S.

 

[NullSmurf]

I don't think "permantately" is a word.

NA

It'll hit the dictionary in a year or two, along with misuninformed and strategery.

 

[sonuvabum]

I don't think "permantately" is a word.

NA

It'll hit the dictionary in a year or two, along with misuninformed and strategery.

I think you mis-under-estimated him.

 

[CoventryCat86]

This is just one more bizarre turn.

It seems like the last 6 or 7 months we have been experiencing some growing pains. I think that there has been a funky vibe ever since the Poker and Chat thing went down. It seems that a lot of feathers were ruffled, and it is taking a while for us to come back together. I may be 100% wrong, on the cause but, in my mind that was at least the time frame. I have even found myself wanting to get involved and stir the pot, but I have held my tongue. I have kept quite because I know that there will be someone with more tenure and wisdom that will be able to handle the situation better than I. So that wold only leave me with a "where is the popcorn" post or maybe the "I am rolling my eyes" smiley to post, and to me those are nothing more that troll bait, and I try to be above that.

This is the first place I visit in the morning, and the last before I turn in at night. That is because there are some damn fine S/BOTL here. And one hell of an owner, that we all owe a dept of thanks and gratitude to.

Now to the ppoint of your post Gonz;

I always considered Wilkey a friend, he always treated me with respect, and help me out with a number of issues that he seemed to be most knowledgeable on. I have sat here in disbelief for the past week or so as all this carnage has unfolded before me. But, whatever my feeling for Mr. Wong, they do not skew my perceptions on bit. He was wrong, plane and simple. He had his reasons I am sure, but that does not make them right. It was a slap in the face to everyone on this board, and even more so to those that held him in high regard. I am dissappointed to say the least.

Just my thoughts, probably missed the mark, but I often do.

Tim

I agree with you Tim, that this is one more bizarre turn in the world of CP as we know it but I must ask, why bring up issues that have little to do with the situation at hand? I think Rod has stated his position quite clearly with regards to chat and poker. You stating this does nothing but “ruffle feathers” as you stated in your own post. Why kick a dead horse?

As for Wilkey, he is much like a newb in the sense that his "ego was not checked at the door". He approached CP with a sense of entitlement and tried to gloss over a few bad deals. Everyone talks about respect and the fact that it is earned, not freely given here on CP. It’s not a post count or how many bombs you send. As with anything in life, your credibility can be torn down by one bad transaction. Or to dumb it down even more, you are only as good as your last deal.

I am saddened as much as the next but Wilkey has chosen his path.

No, no, no.

It was a minimum of FIVE bad transactions and extreme arrogance (refusal to either accept or admit he was wrong).

 

[Putz Mulligan]

This is just one more bizarre turn.

It seems like the last 6 or 7 months we have been experiencing some growing pains. I think that there has been a funky vibe ever since the Poker and Chat thing went down. It seems that a lot of feathers were ruffled, and it is taking a while for us to come back together. I may be 100% wrong, on the cause but, in my mind that was at least the time frame. I have even found myself wanting to get involved and stir the pot, but I have held my tongue. I have kept quite because I know that there will be someone with more tenure and wisdom that will be able to handle the situation better than I. So that wold only leave me with a "where is the popcorn" post or maybe the "I am rolling my eyes" smiley to post, and to me those are nothing more that troll bait, and I try to be above that.

This is the first place I visit in the morning, and the last before I turn in at night. That is because there are some damn fine S/BOTL here. And one hell of an owner, that we all owe a dept of thanks and gratitude to.

Now to the ppoint of your post Gonz;

I always considered Wilkey a friend, he always treated me with respect, and help me out with a number of issues that he seemed to be most knowledgeable on. I have sat here in disbelief for the past week or so as all this carnage has unfolded before me. But, whatever my feeling for Mr. Wong, they do not skew my perceptions on bit. He was wrong, plane and simple. He had his reasons I am sure, but that does not make them right. It was a slap in the face to everyone on this board, and even more so to those that held him in high regard. I am dissappointed to say the least.

Just my thoughts, probably missed the mark, but I often do.

Tim

I agree with you Tim, that this is one more bizarre turn in the world of CP as we know it but I must ask, why bring up issues that have little to do with the situation at hand? I think Rod has stated his position quite clearly with regards to chat and poker. You stating this does nothing but “ruffle feathers” as you stated in your own post. Why kick a dead horse?

As for Wilkey, he is much like a newb in the sense that his "ego was not checked at the door". He approached CP with a sense of entitlement and tried to gloss over a few bad deals. Everyone talks about respect and the fact that it is earned, not freely given here on CP. It’s not a post count or how many bombs you send. As with anything in life, your credibility can be torn down by one bad transaction. Or to dumb it down even more, you are only as good as your last deal.

I am saddened as much as the next but Wilkey has chosen his path.

No, no, no.

It was a minimum of FIVE bad transactions and extreme arrogance (refusal to either accept or admit he was wrong).

Ego, ego, ego......and five bad transactions.

 

[CoventryCat86]

No, no, no.

It was a minimum of FIVE bad transactions and extreme arrogance (refusal to either accept or admit he was wrong).

Ego, ego, ego......and five bad transactions.

You say tomato, I say tomatoe. :laugh:

The only time I ever saw anyone do something this infantile was "TheSultan" over on the Island of the Misfit Toys back in February of 2005. That joke of a cigar board only had about three active members and someone got his nose all bent out of joint so he went back and deleted ALL of his posts.

Oh, those were the days... :laugh:

 

[Putz Mulligan]

No, no, no.

It was a minimum of FIVE bad transactions and extreme arrogance (refusal to either accept or admit he was wrong).

Ego, ego, ego......and five bad transactions.

You say tomato, I say tomatoe. :laugh:

Is your in-box clean CC?

 

[CoventryCat86]

No, no, no.

It was a minimum of FIVE bad transactions and extreme arrogance (refusal to either accept or admit he was wrong).

Ego, ego, ego......and five bad transactions.

You say tomato, I say tomatoe. :laugh:

Is your in-box clean CC?

Nope. I've got so many great PMs I've collected over the years, I just can't part with 'em! :laugh: Some real classics in there like ones from GreatKingRat and TonyDogs to name a few. :laugh:

I tried that archive feature and it works like $hit so I gave up.

 

[moki]

Sad.

It is actually a huge PITA to go back and "heal" these type of deletions. Even with backups, it means merging older content with newer content. I don't envy Rod's task in reviving this material.

Something to consider: some boards let you edit posts only within the first XX hours of posting them, then they become permanent and immutable. I can think of some things that this would make less convenient to do (MMM's reference threads come to mind), but it'd be an option I guess.