Chris, your package has arrived. Your Takes will go out today or tomorrow depending on the vicissitudes of fortune or some crap like that.
OP has been updated.
This is a good question. The reason for a limit is this.Did we ever officially put a ceiling/floor on trades?
Take: H Upmann Magnum 46 ($8.92)
Put: Romeo y Julieta Churchill 06/99 - ($11.60)
$2.68 overput? Nothing closer in price?
Take: Tatuaje Mini-mum ($7.50)
Put: Padilla Miami 8/11 Churchill - pepin made (2005) - ($8.40 from seriouscigars.com.....non-pepin made)
I don't know much about the 8/11, but the Mini-mum has a decently high rarity factor.
Take: Illusione 68 ($6.05)
Put: Alec Bradley SCR Torpedo ($7.74 from seriouscigars.com)
I don't mind this one much, but $1.69 over put is slightly high in price difference.
Just my opinion, let's let the other brothers chime in.
If Gavin wants me to change any of these I can.
Ultimately, Gavin has the final say so, so really anything we have to say is nearly irrelevant.
I would really argue against the challenge of the mini-mum being more "rare" than a pepin made 8/11. The tatuaje mini's are still being sold vs. the pepin made 8/11, which is not. The 8/11 has 7 years of age vs. 0 from the Tatuaje. The 8/11 is more expensive then the mini-mum. Just because it's a "hot" cigar, doesn't change the 3 points I just made.
Like I said I don't have much information on the 8/11, but even though the Mini-mums are available now for purchase, doesn't make them any less rare. They aren't vintage like the 8/11 might be, because they are fresh off the boat, but they are a limited release, one time deal. I don't mind anyone taking the Mini-mum, but when you buy CC ELs, you know when you purchase them that they are a limited one, possibly one time deal. Even if they just came out, being a EL still has a rarity factor.
Also, what is the floor if we're so concerned about the ceiling? I have always played passes as the box should always be in better shape leaving then when I received it.
I remember a floor/ceiling being discussed at $0.50, which might be a little anal, but fair as far as I'm concerned. I'm even fine with $1 difference being the floor/ceiling. The big issue as I see it is if we allow too many over puts, the last couple guys on the list, may not be able to participate, because of the now more upscale list. I would much rather over puts, than under puts, but overall, if I take a Cohiba Behike 52 at $34 and replace it with a Cohiba Behike 54 at $40, it makes the ability to trade for the cigar even harder than it originally was.
From earlier.We'll say $1, for ease, though rarity can trump this. I don't intend to dissect things at the level of one of Jake's newbie passes, I'm more concerned with if the Puts and Takes as a whole 'feel' right. That being said, large over-puts are just as bad as large unders-.
From earlier.We'll say $1, for ease, though rarity can trump this. I don't intend to dissect things at the level of one of Jake's newbie passes, I'm more concerned with if the Puts and Takes as a whole 'feel' right. That being said, large over-puts are just as bad as large unders-.
I'm not fully awake yet as I'm working the graveyard shift. I'll take a serious look a bit later in the day.
]Hey guys, sorry about the small delay. Here are my proposed P's and T's:
Take: H Upmann Magnum 46 ($8.92)
Put: Romeo y Julieta Churchill 06/99 - ($11.60)
This is a large overput on price and on rarity, given the age of the churchill. Don't get me wrong, I wants it to be mine, my precioussss....but still, it's too high.
Take: Vegas Robaina Famoso Jun `08 ($8.76)
Put: Punch Punch ($9.12)
Cool.
Take: Viaje Oro Torpedo ($8.70)
Put: Ashton Aged Maduro No. 30 (8/08) ($9.30 from seriouscigars.com)
Cool.
Take: Alec Bradley Tempus Magistri Maduro ($10.90)
Put: Diamond Crown CFW Robusto No. 4 ($11.80 from seriouscigars.com)
Cool.
Take: Tatuaje Mini-mum ($7.50)
Put: Padilla Miami 8/11 Churchill - pepin made (2005) - ($8.40 from seriouscigars.com.....non-pepin made)
I actually think this is perfect. While rarity levels may be arguably different, they're close enough that the slight Over quells any remaining doubt.
Take: Liga Privada Dirty Rat ($12)
Put: CAO Sopranos Soldier ($13.10 seriouscigars.com)
This is close enough, though a bit high.
Take: Illusione 68 ($6.05)
Put: Alec Bradley SCR Torpedo ($7.74 from seriouscigars.com)
Just too high.
Hope these look good, let me know.
Thanks,
Floor/ceiling.So it's noted for my sake, $1 floor/ceiling? Or is it $1 ceiling? Or neither?