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conceal carry guns

I've looked around the internet for a while trying to garner any info on conceal carry weapons. i bought a beretta 9000s which I love but I'm looking for something a little smaller to fit in a front pocket of a pair of khaki's or shorts. Looked at Kel Tec's and am thinking about getting one but I thought I'd go straight to the 'source' for any real advice. you guys haven't let me down yet.

Any thoughts, suggestions?

thanks for any input

The Kel Tec's also have a retainer type clip that attaches (you have to order it usually) to the side. And with the Kel Tec .32's and .380's being some of the slimmest in that caliber I've ever seen...I would see a fine inside the pant or pocket carry method with maybe only that clip exposed. (in order to keep it from moving all over). Of course you may not have a draw as simple and quick as other methods of concealed carry when using that clip. So if you and I were at a gun store, and you wanted something to put in your front pocket, I would say I'd have to agree with you on the Kel Tec. your clothes might not "print" that firearm as much as some others. What caliber are you thinking? I have and extra mag and the retainer clip to a KT .380 from when I used to have one that I'll give you if you end up doing something like that. :thumbs:
 
I've always found a Walther PPK to be just fine.

Of course, whoever suggested the .38 snubnose is right on as well. Solid, reliable (in my experience anyway), mechanical device, that will do just what it's intended to do.

If you're wanting to go for anything larger, a Sig Sauer P-229 is great.

Have all three of these, among many others, and have never failed me.

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You know that all you need is a two shot Derringer if self protection is all you are looking for. If you can't hit them in 2 shots you won't with 10 either.


Funny, but the first thought that came to my mind when I read his post was the Derringer, then I came back and saw your post. And you're exactly right...
 
Wow guys, thanks for the quick turnaround on the topic.

Matt, the reason I want to carry a gun is...and don't laugh....too much, I'm a lawyer in a small town. I've just started my practice and I need to eat so I do some things like divorces and evictions. Jealous husbands/lovers, and pissed off meth addicts see my name on legal papers they're served with and well, some of these people don't have a future anyway. Also, I believe it's everyones Constitutional right to bear arms, and as such, I will do so to protect myself and my family from any threat.

I like the snub nosed .38s, esp. the hammerless, and the kel tecs, but I'm still in the early shopping phase.

I'll let you guys know which way I go.

my next door neighbor is a FFL dealer, check out his page, www.titletwoinvestments.com, sorry I don't know how to hyperlink.

and i'm sure some of you are thinking, lawyer??? kill him!
 
Wow guys, thanks for the quick turnaround on the topic.

Matt, the reason I want to carry a gun is...and don't laugh....too much, I'm a lawyer in a small town. I've just started my practice and I need to eat so I do some things like divorces and evictions. Jealous husbands/lovers, and pissed off meth addicts see my name on legal papers they're served with and well, some of these people don't have a future anyway. Also, I believe it's everyones Constitutional right to bear arms, and as such, I will do so to protect myself and my family from any threat.

I like the snub nosed .38s, esp. the hammerless, and the kel tecs, but I'm still in the early shopping phase.

I'll let you guys know which way I go.

my next door neighbor is a FFL dealer, check out his page, www.titletwoinvestments.com, sorry I don't know how to hyperlink.

and i'm sure some of you are thinking, lawyer??? kill him!

You'd be surprised...there's a few of us attorneys here...
 
You know that all you need is a two shot Derringer if self protection is all you are looking for. If you can't hit them in 2 shots you won't with 10 either.

Funny, but the first thought that came to my mind when I read his post was the Derringer, then I came back and saw your post. And you're exactly right...
Perhaps a little off topic, but if someone chooses to carry, regular practice isn't just a good idea, it's a responsibility. When called on to respond "in the gravest extreme" you need to know that you can operate your chosen weapon as exactly and accurately as possible. If there is professional training available (gun range classes, etc.) my advice is to take it. I get to the local indoor range at least once a month...and, really, I should go lots more often.

Concealed carry is a huge responsibility but one that can save lives if bad things happen....

Best Regards - B.B.S.
 
The stub-nose is a good idea if you have no aversion to autos. Also, not to long ago I was reading about a highly concealable 5-shot revolver. It has a bigger round than a .38 which is good for the stopping power. I'd do a more detailed search, but since I'm at work I'd rather not have that show up on my search list :p

Might have been a taurus though? That strike a cord with anyone?
 
You know that all you need is a two shot Derringer if self protection is all you are looking for. If you can't hit them in 2 shots you won't with 10 either.

Funny, but the first thought that came to my mind when I read his post was the Derringer, then I came back and saw your post. And you're exactly right...
Perhaps a little off topic, but if someone chooses to carry, regular practice isn't just a good idea, it's a responsibility. When called on to respond "in the gravest extreme" you need to know that you can operate your chosen weapon as exactly and accurately as possible. If there is professional training available (gun range classes, etc.) my advice is to take it. I get to the local indoor range at least once a month...and, really, I should go lots more often.

Concealed carry is a huge responsibility but one that can save lives if bad things happen....

Best Regards - B.B.S.

Sound advice, but here in Florida, one has to undergo training (or otherwise show proof of such training classes) prior to getting their concealed permit issued (or provision of your DD-214).

-edited to add-

I would think other states have similar statutory requirements.
 
Sarcasm doesn't come across well so in case you weren't kidding you might want to at least look at my profile before you say something like that.

You've obviously never had to fire a gun in self defense. :whistling:


Sorry you misunderstood. My sarcasm was just a continuation of yours because I have seen your profile.....that's why the :whistling:

;)
 
Sound advice, but here in Florida, one has to undergo training (or otherwise show proof of such training classes) prior to getting their concealed permit issued (or provision of your DD-214).

-edited to add-

I would think other states have similar statutory requirements.
I think you're right. WA state is one that doesn't have a formal training requirement, but OR does (I live in WA and work in OR; I have CCW for both states). Problem is that most of these mandated training classes teach basic safety (which isn't a bad thing) but not proficiency. My point was that ongoing training and practice is something the responsible CCW holder needs to engage in.

...we don't disagree... :cool:

Cheers - B.B.S.

Edited for brevity......
 
yeah, in Oklahoma, we have to go through a course and actually fire the gun that you want to register as the primary concealed weapon. good idea as far as i'm concerned. I don't want people toting guns that don't know how to use them.

correct me if i'm wrong, but I believe any states that have a conceal carry law, give FF & C to any other state with one also.
 
yeah, in Oklahoma, we have to go through a course and actually fire the gun that you want to register as the primary concealed weapon. good idea as far as i'm concerned. I don't want people toting guns that don't know how to use them.

correct me if i'm wrong, but I believe any states that have a conceal carry law, give FF & C to any other state with one also.

Not all states. Check for reciprocal laws. Some states recognize other's CLC laws, some don't.

Look here.... http://www.packing.org/

Edited 'cause I don't know how to post a link....
 
Hello, I'm new here but not to either cigars or firearms, hope my two cents worth is appreciated.

Have found that with a good holster and gunbelt it's possible to carry even service sized handguns concealed with relative comfort, day after day. The smallest lightest choice in my semiauto "carry battery" is a Kahr P-9, the largest is a Glock Model 20. With revolvers it would be from a S&W Model 37 (5 shot .38 snubby) at the petite end, up to a 4" Model 625 .45acp. My preference is to use inside-the-waistband (IWB) holsters year round for the most part, the exception being that a larger revolver is darn hard to tote that way!

Note that I put 'gunbelt' in bold type above. It really helps with carry comfort during the day, not to use a cheapy $8.99 piece of thin leather from Wally World for this purpose. Spend a little more, your body will thank you! One good place to look is galls.com (police and fire supplies vendor), the Aker brand is about $35, it's got thin stiff plastic sewn between the leather layers. Also check with your local shoe/leather repair store, tack shop, or Amish community (no kiddin'!), in addition to the big name holstermakers of course.
 
I’m a Glock guy. Glock 23 in colder sweatshirt type weather and a G27 for warmer months when you are limited with concealment garments.

Reliability and simplicity rank very high on the list for me when it comes to firearms that are intended for martial use.

If you have any familiarity with firearms I’d suggest a G26 with little finger extensions on the magazine floor plates. It’s a really nice little package and if you look around you should be able to find one for about $500 maybe less. Don’t be afraid of buying a used one. Glocks run and run and run. Mags are cheap <$20 through mail order. I would not recommend this for pocket carry without some type of pocket carry holster because your finger may wander inside the trigger guard while drawing, which is a very bad thing for Glocks.

A snub nose S&W 357 would be a good choice as well for a beginner. I would stick with all steel as 357 has a kick. A Ruger SP101 is a decent substitute. The wifey could be taught how to use it also which may be an asset.

I’ve never been a fan of anything but holster carry. You absolutely must be able to access your weapon with minimal amount of time and fooling around. Pocket carry in your coat in winter months when you couldn’t unzip etc is OK I guess for that unique situation.

An outside the waist leather pancake type holster would serve you well if you plan on carrying infrequently or at your discretion. It will pull the weapon close in for minimal printing and will minimize “flopping”. On a budget Don Hume makes some decent products. The sky’s the limit if you want to buy a name. Don’t forget a good belt also. It must be beefy and wide and the same guys who make holsters make good belts. Or be a cheap skate like me and buy the heavy “work” belts from Wally World. For clothes during warm weather, Hawaiian print type colored shirt are your friend.

As has been said above get some training, or at a minimum heavy reading and self tutelage.

One other thing to think of is a way to safely secure the weapon when you not carrying it. The last thing you want to do is arm a smash and grab home burglar who otherwise would have been content with the DVD player. Gunvault products are alright and allow quick access in an emergency.

Sorry for the long winded reply.
 
I'd love to have a CCW in Cali. However I've been told the only way to get one is to be Barbara Boxer.

Actually its very geographicly oriented as the pemits are issued by the sherrif I believe. If your lucky enough to be located where the local fuzz dont have a problem with it, like way up in NoCal, its not too hard/possible. Do some research on the web like packing.org, you might be surprised.

For me Im screwed in state. I have a non-resident FL and UT permit that allow me to carry when I step across all but one border state line because of reciprocity. They are/were a bit of a pain to get and costly but I look at them as an insurance policy for when I travel.

Hopefully I will solve this problem for good by moving out of this crappy state within a year maybe two.
 
One of the best concealable guns is the seecamp .32. 7 shots and about the size of a derringer. The only problem is the price and the demand for them. I've shot one and they are nice. It has a nice little kick.
 
Sound advice, but here in Florida, one has to undergo training (or otherwise show proof of such training classes) prior to getting their concealed permit issued (or provision of your DD-214).

-edited to add-

I would think other states have similar statutory requirements.
I think you're right. WA state is one that doesn't have a formal training requirement, but OR does (I live in WA and work in OR; I have CCW for both states). Problem is that most of these mandated training classes teach basic safety (which isn't a bad thing) but not proficiency. My point was that ongoing training and practice is something the responsible CCW holder needs to engage in.

...we don't disagree... :cool:

Cheers - B.B.S.

Edited for brevity......

"Proficiency" is something that I think some people, even CCW holders, might never attain. For the large part, that is to their detriment (at least it could be some day). However, it can easily be to the detriment of others. That's the sad part.

I have been around guns since I was a child. The USMC trained me (on this, and many, many other issues) better than anything else I could have imagined. I still get to the range at least twice per month though...because I enjoy it.

I never thought for a moment we were in disagreement. :thumbs:
 
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