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Salt test never fails. Also, if a hygro that you already had reads the same as the one that came with the humi, wouldn't it stand to reason that they are both fairly accurate. It seems that it would be statistically thin odds that both were off by the same amount.
 
Seems like a pretty accurate and reasonable response to me? What is the problem?

UPDATE:

I sent an email response to cheaphumidors.com's email Friday. They didn't get back to me, so today I sent them my response for the second time. Take a look.

WHAT I WROTE IN RESPONSE TO THEIR EMAIL:

My humidor is actually drying out my cigar stash. So based on how they feel or how they smoke, they're pretty dry. You can see that they are very dry and they are smoking dry as well. There is a nice (enter sarcasm) crunch and sizzle to the cigars as they smoke.

I guess I'm confused as to why this is happening. If the hygrometers are reading above the allotted humidity, why are my cigars drying out? Could a broken seal allow excess air into the humidor causing the cigars to dry out - even though the hygrometers are reading 70 and above? In your previous response you said 70 was a bit to humid. If this is the case, why are my cigars drying out?

I only lift the lid on my humidor about twice a week and only for a brief amount of time; just long enough to get my smoke. The glass top makes selecting the perfect cigar a breeze since I can see inside before I lift the lid.

I have the original humidifier in the humidor and I filled it with a "pre-mixed use every time" Propylene Glycol mixture. I also have two crystal gel humidifiers in the humidor as well. I have 70% silica beads too but they aren't in the humidor. And as of now, I have about 50 cigars in this humidor. What would be the best set up for this humidor?

Your prompt response is appreciated.
Steve

CHEAPHUMIDORS.COM RESPONSE TO MY RESPONSE:

Humidity is a very hard thing to control. You are basically playing God in a small space. So many variables effect humidity, including weather conditions, heat, frequency of opening the humidor, etc. Most people really freak out about humidity and worry if they are not exactly at 70%. Truth be told, 70% is a little too humid for most people to enjoy a cigar. The mid to low 60s is a much better range, with Europeans actually preferring humidity in the high 50s.

That being said you should gauge your humidity more on the feel and smokeablility of your cigars, than the hygrometer numbers. Keep in mind that if you are using an analog hygrometer more often than not your reading, even after calibration is off. You see analogs measure humidity by a bi-metal that expands or contracts. This process albeit archaic, is also very slow to respond, and innacurate as heck. A digital hygrometer, that has been calibrated correctly is your best tool to determine humidity.

As stated before, there are so many variables that effect humidity it is hard to have a failsafe way to bring your humidity up to your desires level. Suffice it to say that adding an alternative humidity source, like a dish of distilled water, or very, very carefully wiping the insides down with distilled water are both acceptable means to increase humidity. You will notice that in the winter time you will chase humidity much more frequently as the air is drier. In the summer it will be much easier to maintain, and of course in the Spring and Fall, transition months, you will somedays be ok, and other days have problems.

Again, don't be too concerned with the numbers, go more for feel. All of our humidors are tested for humidity control, seal, etc.


This is absolute bullshit! They can't even take the time to give me a proper response to my concerns. But rather they send me some bullshit, generic, one-size fits most response letter.

I guess I'm back in the market for a REAL humidor. Can anyone send me the link to an online humidor retailer that isn't looking to screw me? Perhaps with some sort of customer service or knowledge about humidors?

Thanks,
Steve
 
- How long did you spend seasoning your humidor?
- How did you season your humidor?
- Have you salt tested your hygro so you have an instrument you can trust?

If you want a "real" humidor, Bob Staebell and Arlen Liss are two names that come to mind. You'll still have to season it, and you'll probably still have to salt test your hygrometer.

....It'll cost more than a couple hundred bucks, too.... :whistling:
 
- How long did you spend seasoning your humidor?
- How did you season your humidor?
- Have you salt tested your hygro so you have an instrument you can trust?

If you want a "real" humidor, Bob Staebell and Arlen Liss are two names that come to mind. You'll still have to season it, and you'll probably still have to salt test your hygrometer.

....It'll cost more than a couple hundred bucks, too.... :whistling:

It took roughly a week to season my humidor.
I placed a small ceramic bowl with distilled water in the bottom of the humidor.
I purchased the digital hygrometer along with a test kit and it was pretty accurate from the get-go.

I retested my hygrometer using the salt test and as it stands right now, my hygrometer is reading 74% humidity. I'll throw it in my humidor and check what it's reading in the humidor.

Steve
 
I know you say you salt tested and seasoned, but all of your problems sound like inaccurate hygrometers and/or an improperly seasoned humidor.

Perhaps that 1 week wasn't long enough. I know I let my 300 count sit for about 2 weeks before I considered it seasoned.
 
I'm going to throw my cigars in an airtight plastic container and reseason my humidor.

does anyone know if I can put a bead of caulk or wax around the glass top to ensure it is sealed?
 
I'm going to throw my cigars in an airtight plastic container and reseason my humidor.

does anyone know if I can put a bead of caulk or wax around the glass top to ensure it is sealed?

I'm not sure about wax but I can't imagine that caulk is a good idea as I am sure the smell would affect your smokes.
 
I don't know about wax, but I believe a silicone sealing wax should do well as long as you let it fully dry before you return your cigars to it.

You may want to put a line on some cardboard and let it dry to check for any sent or fumes.
 
If you're unhappy - send it back for a refund.

1) Make sure the humi is wiped down well - but not soaking. Put the dish with distilled water inthe center.
After 48 hours it should be set. NOW - if you want to wipe it down again at 24 hrs...go ahead - just don't soak it.


If you want to fix the glass...search some more...as the 'poxy' issue has been discussed.
Marine grade will work...I believe.

If the woods warped and youhavn't had it a long time..see about a refund.

Also......
Put the hydro in a bag ....and put a damp paper towel in there with it(wrapped around it) ...seal it up (use a frezzer bag).

In 15 minutes it should read 99%....if it's over...dial it back to 99%...and leave it in for 15 minutes.

Now...check...if it's 99%...take it out.

Now - put it back in the humi with some water.

Do this before you season....then leave it in while you season.

Also - get another hydro!
 
If the cigars are drying out, and the hygro is reading 70+, isn't that a problem with the hygros? Unless they're some sort of special cigar that needs to be at 90%...
 
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