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F1 within the confines of a standard circuit, these vehicles can achieve an average speed of up to 200 mph (312.86 km/h).

NASCAR cars can reach top speeds exceeding 200 mph (322 km/h) on superspeedways like Daytona and Talladega. However, on shorter tracks and road courses, top speeds typically range between 90 to 160 mph (145 to 257 km/h)
 
CBoukal said:
F1 within the confines of a standard circuit, these vehicles can achieve an average speed of up to 200 mph (312.86 km/h).

NASCAR cars can reach top speeds exceeding 200 mph (322 km/h) on superspeedways like Daytona and Talladega. However, on shorter tracks and road courses, top speeds typically range between 90 to 160 mph (145 to 257 km/h)
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I crossed out your last sentence because it’s irrelevant. If you put F1 cars on the “shorter tracks and road-courses”, I would wager that they would run almost identical top speeds. Lap times however, would be better for F1 due to a much higher acceleration rate. I guess it begs the question of whether you would rather watch single file racing at 200 mph or door to door racing at 120 mph. I find both enjoyable!

My OP was not to say that NASCAR is far superior to F1 in every aspect. It was to illustrate a level of excitement that F1 just can’t replicate. F1 runs mostly in a single-file line unless you get close to the car in front of you. Then you push a button and pass them. In the picture above, at Talladega, they run 3-4 wide, 6-10 deep, inches apart (door to door & bumper to bumper) for 3+ hours. I will be the first to admit though, not all NASCAR races are as exciting as Talladega. That’s why I only watch a few of their races a year. ‘Dega, Daytona, a couple road courses, and Martinsville.

Don’t get me wrong, I am quickly becoming an F1 fan. It comes across to me as a much more technology driven, cerebral kind of racing. I know there is a lot more for me to learn/understand about the sport, but it just seems that I would enjoy it more if there was a little more close racing.

With all of that being said, I will be the first to admit that I am a redneck. And when I was growing up, Iowa had the most stock car tracks per capita than anywhere else in the nation. At a minimum, every county had a track, and there are 99 counties in Iowa. I can’t even begin to count the number of dirt track races that I’ve been to. I’ve enjoyed every division at every track, although sprint cars have always been my favorite.

I will continue to learn about F1, which will increase my enjoyment. Honestly though, I probably still wouldn’t have much interest in it if it wasn’t for our fantasy league. So that’s a positive!
 
While maybe not "better" than F1, NASCAR fans sure are a lot more "fun" to watch!!!

I have worked security at both Rockingham and Darlington before they were removed from the circuit, lots of "fun"
 
dawgie34203 said:
I crossed out your last sentence because it’s irrelevant. If you put F1 cars on the “shorter tracks and road-courses”, I would wager that they would run almost identical top speeds. Lap times however, would be better for F1 due to a much higher acceleration rate. I guess it begs the question of whether you would rather watch single file racing at 200 mph or door to door racing at 120 mph. I find both enjoyable!

My OP was not to say that NASCAR is far superior to F1 in every aspect. It was to illustrate a level of excitement that F1 just can’t replicate. F1 runs mostly in a single-file line unless you get close to the car in front of you. Then you push a button and pass them. In the picture above, at Talladega, they run 3-4 wide, 6-10 deep, inches apart (door to door & bumper to bumper) for 3+ hours. I will be the first to admit though, not all NASCAR races are as exciting as Talladega. That’s why I only watch a few of their races a year. ‘Dega, Daytona, a couple road courses, and Martinsville.

Don’t get me wrong, I am quickly becoming an F1 fan. It comes across to me as a much more technology driven, cerebral kind of racing. I know there is a lot more for me to learn/understand about the sport, but it just seems that I would enjoy it more if there was a little more close racing.

With all of that being said, I will be the first to admit that I am a redneck. And when I was growing up, Iowa had the most stock car tracks per capita than anywhere else in the nation. At a minimum, every county had a track, and there are 99 counties in Iowa. I can’t even begin to count the number of dirt track races that I’ve been to. I’ve enjoyed every division at every track, although sprint cars have always been my favorite.

I will continue to learn about F1, which will increase my enjoyment. Honestly though, I probably still wouldn’t have much interest in it if it wasn’t for our fantasy league. So that’s a positive!
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I stopped reading about 1/4 of the way down. I wasn't saying one is better, I am just noting that in the two pictures you posted, the F1 cars are probably closer to 200 mph and the NASCAR's are closer to 100 mph. Honestly the NASCAR picture at close to 100mph looks a lot like my commute to work when I worked in IL. Only there were more cars on my commute and nobody (most of us) didn't have helmets.
 
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dawgie34203 said:
I crossed out your last sentence because it’s irrelevant. If you put F1 cars on the “shorter tracks and road-courses”, I would wager that they would run almost identical top speeds. Lap times however, would be better for F1 due to a much higher acceleration rate.
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Appreciate reading your insight/thoughts. But this comment is so far off and the best example I can think of is COTA in Austin. It is a "road course", but here are the top speeds; F1 - 202mph, Nascar - 88mph.

Other than that, @kann ....why haven't you weighed in yet???
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modo22 said:
Appreciate reading your insight/thoughts. But this comment is so far off and the best example I can think of is COTA in Austin. It is a "road course", but here are the top speeds; F1 - 202mph, Nascar - 88mph.

Other than that, @kann ....why haven't you weighed in yet???
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Are your top speeds from this year or previous years? The only reason I ask is because Nascar changed their track configuration for this year, effectively cutting the backstretch in half. I do know that when they both ran the same track configuration, “official” fastest lap speeds were posted by F1 Charles Leclerk (1:36.169) and Nascar Tyler Reddick (2:12.71). That is a HUGE difference, and I don’t doubt your numbers in the least!

I wonder what, theoretically, would happen if F1 ran somewhere like Talladega. I know that Nascar mechanically restricts the horsepower to keep the speed down. They say if they ran unrestricted that the cars would fly off the track. Do you think that the technically advanced and superior aerodynamics on the F1 cars would be able to keep them on the track at speeds over 200 mph? FWIW, I read somewhere that IF F1 ran on a Superspeedway, that they would run at approximately 240mph.

Thanks for your input! I couldn’t think of a track that both series raced on, so you get a gold star and I definitely learned something!
 
dawgie34203 said:
Are your top speeds from this year or previous years? The only reason I ask is because Nascar changed their track configuration for this year, effectively cutting the backstretch in half. I do know that when they both ran the same track configuration, “official” fastest lap speeds were posted by F1 Charles Leclerk (1:36.169) and Nascar Tyler Reddick (2:12.71). That is a HUGE difference, and I don’t doubt your numbers in the least!

I wonder what, theoretically, would happen if F1 ran somewhere like Talladega. I know that Nascar mechanically restricts the horsepower to keep the speed down. They say if they ran unrestricted that the cars would fly off the track. Do you think that the technically advanced and superior aerodynamics on the F1 cars would be able to keep them on the track at speeds over 200 mph? FWIW, I read somewhere that IF F1 ran on a Superspeedway, that they would run at approximately 240mph.

Thanks for your input! I couldn’t think of a track that both series raced on, so you get a gold star and I definitely learned something!
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To clarify I didn't mean that as insult to Nascar. If you want a fast pace race with lots of passing then Nascar is your deal. If you prefer something where ever pass is more critical but fewer in total then F1 it is.

As a fan of racing I respect all disciplines of racing, some more than others.
 
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