Atlasm
I'll sleep when I'm dead
I'd add to the list, Aston VSG Sorcerer and Illusion
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mrjinglesusa
CP Chemist
I like this idea - it has merit. Only problem I see is people having to wade through a "Wish List" type thread to see if the cigars they found are wanted by anyone. Personally, knowing this board and the people on it the way I do, if I ever came across boxes of Opus or Anejo at or near MSRP I would buy them all and then post in the BST Forum to unload them. My guess is that they would be gone in less than 5 minutes.
Jim I'll take those boxes off your hands :thumbs: :laugh:
BigJake6904
Fat Texan
The Illusion is fairly common, My shop still has a box or so and we arent even an authorized dealer. I wouldnt add that to the list.
I mentioned ESG's because they aren't common around me. Im not sure of nationwide availability, but in North Houston when I was home this weekend, there was only 2 stores of about 7 that had them, and had about 5 or 6 left in total. Not to mention, They are just a GREAT smoke.
I would also add Opus Lanceros, H&R has them for $28
5 O'Clock, get on that.... :sign:
Bonfire Smoke
Bonfire Smoke
What is a good source of finding the MSRP? Is there a website that has a good listing?
Johnny
Johnny
amateuraficionado
Active Member
I think he may have been referring to Ashton VSG Illusions rather than the line of Illusione cigars.... which again, up here, are rarely if ever out of stock. I guess it really just all depends where you are. For instance, you can not find Tats or Illusiones at B&M's up here. Go figure!
Are you reading the same thread as me? Buy 'em up and rest assured you'll get your money back!!Gonz will have to buy them just to prove a point.
Worse comes to worse sure I guess I would take them, I could use them to fill the empty (smoked) spots from the set I bought a while back
2 members have PM'd me for 5ers. That leaves 9 available. If I get PM's for the other 9 I then will get the box discount. (not sure how much exactly of a discount ) which will bring everyones price down once adjusted for the discount. As to the leather humidor it comes in, I guess a raffle would be the best way to go.
Lou
5 O'Clock Somewhere
New Member
I can probably check them out sometime this week to see exactly what they've got. I feel like every time I go there's a new box of anejo or opus that came in that morning. It's just a great shop. I'll try report back with anything that catches my eye.
Also, they had 80ths and 40ths for really nice prices if I recall. I'll just do a sweep of the place.
JHolmes763
Drinkin' the koolaid
Yep. :thumbs: :thumbs:
BigJake6904
Fat Texan
I can probably check them out sometime this week to see exactly what they've got. I feel like every time I go there's a new box of anejo or opus that came in that morning. It's just a great shop. I'll try report back with anything that catches my eye.
Also, they had 80ths and 40ths for really nice prices if I recall. I'll just do a sweep of the place.
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When I was there they were out of 80ths and had 40ths for $30 a stick. Serious has them online for $25, I wouldnt waste your money on the PA's
Dr. Marneaus
I drive a station wagon
Wouldn't this type of setup also be potential for people doing it for profit?
Uh-oh, here's a box of X for MSRP....I'll buy them, then tack on 3 bucks a stick in the BST forum.
Or is that fine with people? I mean, you'd be getting a good deal and the buyer would get money for their troubles? I just thought selling for profit wasn't really allowed on this site (unless you're a vendor).
I mean, in my Anejo thread I announced I added about a buck to the price of each stick to cover a bunch of expenses (pay pal fees etc) but that wasn't for profit purposes, and everyone still got great deals.
Feelings on this?
Uh-oh, here's a box of X for MSRP....I'll buy them, then tack on 3 bucks a stick in the BST forum.
Or is that fine with people? I mean, you'd be getting a good deal and the buyer would get money for their troubles? I just thought selling for profit wasn't really allowed on this site (unless you're a vendor).
I mean, in my Anejo thread I announced I added about a buck to the price of each stick to cover a bunch of expenses (pay pal fees etc) but that wasn't for profit purposes, and everyone still got great deals.
Feelings on this?
5 O'Clock Somewhere
New Member
When I was there they were out of 80ths and had 40ths for $30 a stick. Serious has them online for $25, I wouldnt waste your money on the PA's
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Hmm... I could have sworn I saw 80ths for $30, but maybe my eyes were playing tricks on me.
None the less, they frequently have other HTF sticks for very reasonable prices so hopefully we can make a CP mega-buy in there at some point.
BigJake6904
Fat Texan
I barely got more than a box of HTF's and made it out cheap only spending about $500
I hope you got some hardcore credit if you want to buy for all of cp :sign:
I hope you got some hardcore credit if you want to buy for all of cp :sign:
JHolmes763
Drinkin' the koolaid
Always that potential, even with the way things are now. People like that get revealed sooner or later, though... and then they'll be gone.
Dr. Marneaus
I drive a station wagon
Always that potential, even with the way things are now. People like that get revealed sooner or later, though... and then they'll be gone.
I suppose this is true.
Also, even though I've been here for only a short amount of time (compared to some) I've noticed that people are generally very generous and selfless. Of course there are going to be those who are asshats and try to screw folks, but the majority of the community still blows me away with their generosity.
Which is why I don't mind running around all crazy for a few days organizing a group buy, it's all to help people who have helped me. So perhaps my concern for the above stated issue should be minimal.
BigJake6904
Fat Texan
No matter how generous some people may be, there is always someone willing to put on a "mask" in order to screw someone else out of money, possesions, or property. There will always be that one person that is selfish and will only look after themselves.
However, here on CP, those people can only mess up once no mater what vassad (sp?) they decide to hide behind.
Most people who stick around long enough to see how the community really works will understand they get more out of the generosity and ability for everyone to look after each other than simply stealing it.
As you said, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Anyone that has done a deal or two on CP and has followed through with it I trust hands down, whether it be a PIF, Trade, Herf, purchase, or what have you.
99.7% of registered members here are looking for a place to vent and escape to discuss probably one of our favorite hobbies, and more additional hobbies. there is only that occasional troll you must watch out for.
However, here on CP, those people can only mess up once no mater what vassad (sp?) they decide to hide behind.
Most people who stick around long enough to see how the community really works will understand they get more out of the generosity and ability for everyone to look after each other than simply stealing it.
As you said, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Anyone that has done a deal or two on CP and has followed through with it I trust hands down, whether it be a PIF, Trade, Herf, purchase, or what have you.
99.7% of registered members here are looking for a place to vent and escape to discuss probably one of our favorite hobbies, and more additional hobbies. there is only that occasional troll you must watch out for.
Dr. Marneaus
I drive a station wagon
A wise man indeed.
This is getting some great discussion, thanks! Regarding a few points people made;
Anyone that does this for profit, as someone earlier said, will eventually be found out. It's a smaller world than many think, and lots of us know each other or know where alot of folks tend to shop. There's also folks who have little better to do than double check every detail of a sale to be sure someone (especially a relatively new member) is on the up and up. Sometimes it's alot easier than you think! For example, recently alot of folks here bought those Padilla Obsidians over at cbid super cheap. Then a few folks listed them for sale over in the BST, and they were listed for exactly what they paid. If they weren't, I'm sure enough folks here knew about that screaming deal that someone would have said something.
Secondly, I'm not sure a thread somewhere with lists of people's wishes is a great idea, because it would get complicated very quickly, and god forbid someone gets a few of their sticks before someone "ahead of them in line" gets theirs. The potential for preferential treatment and the fallout scares me. For me, and alot of other regulars on the board, we know each other well enough, and we know CP well enough, to know what's going to get gobbled up by the BST vultures in seconds.
During a long 3 hour drive today, I had time to reflect on this, and there's other philosophical issues at hand. For instance, (and this would never happen because of our insane tobacco taxes in MN) is it fair to the other MN Botls if I happen into the local B&M, find some deals and buy the place out just to hook up some brothers here? Or recently there was someone with a big knot in their panties because a board member (not here) went to Casa Fuente in Vegas, happened upon the Don Carlos Lanceros with no limit at a decent price and bought an ungodly amount of them, essentially clearing them out. Now they have a limit. Is that just someone's good fortune? Or is it unfair to the Vegas botls because now they missed out?
The randomness of someone scoring some great sticks and listing them in the BST forum is appealing, because then it's somewhat luck of the draw or good timing on our part if we get to partake.
And finally a disclaimer, which I'll be editing into the first post: Some of us have too much time on our hands, or are some kind of ubergeeks, and we actually know by heart what the msrp is on alot of HTF sticks. Many of you may not, and I would not like to be the responsible party for this entire idea when you think you've found a deal and then find out it really wasn't, and now you're stuck with these cigars. Also, some folks may not be in a financial position to be able to just dole out a few hundred dollars on cigars, then post a thread and hope that others buy them and you get your money back. I do not want anyone to feel obligated to buy cigars, or feel like they are less of a botl because they simply can't afford at the moment to dish out cash like this.
Anyone that does this for profit, as someone earlier said, will eventually be found out. It's a smaller world than many think, and lots of us know each other or know where alot of folks tend to shop. There's also folks who have little better to do than double check every detail of a sale to be sure someone (especially a relatively new member) is on the up and up. Sometimes it's alot easier than you think! For example, recently alot of folks here bought those Padilla Obsidians over at cbid super cheap. Then a few folks listed them for sale over in the BST, and they were listed for exactly what they paid. If they weren't, I'm sure enough folks here knew about that screaming deal that someone would have said something.
Secondly, I'm not sure a thread somewhere with lists of people's wishes is a great idea, because it would get complicated very quickly, and god forbid someone gets a few of their sticks before someone "ahead of them in line" gets theirs. The potential for preferential treatment and the fallout scares me. For me, and alot of other regulars on the board, we know each other well enough, and we know CP well enough, to know what's going to get gobbled up by the BST vultures in seconds.
During a long 3 hour drive today, I had time to reflect on this, and there's other philosophical issues at hand. For instance, (and this would never happen because of our insane tobacco taxes in MN) is it fair to the other MN Botls if I happen into the local B&M, find some deals and buy the place out just to hook up some brothers here? Or recently there was someone with a big knot in their panties because a board member (not here) went to Casa Fuente in Vegas, happened upon the Don Carlos Lanceros with no limit at a decent price and bought an ungodly amount of them, essentially clearing them out. Now they have a limit. Is that just someone's good fortune? Or is it unfair to the Vegas botls because now they missed out?
The randomness of someone scoring some great sticks and listing them in the BST forum is appealing, because then it's somewhat luck of the draw or good timing on our part if we get to partake.
And finally a disclaimer, which I'll be editing into the first post: Some of us have too much time on our hands, or are some kind of ubergeeks, and we actually know by heart what the msrp is on alot of HTF sticks. Many of you may not, and I would not like to be the responsible party for this entire idea when you think you've found a deal and then find out it really wasn't, and now you're stuck with these cigars. Also, some folks may not be in a financial position to be able to just dole out a few hundred dollars on cigars, then post a thread and hope that others buy them and you get your money back. I do not want anyone to feel obligated to buy cigars, or feel like they are less of a botl because they simply can't afford at the moment to dish out cash like this.
Dr. Marneaus
I drive a station wagon
Yah, the way I'm looking at this is more or less something to keep in the back of one's mind.
Kinda reiterating Gonz's disclaimer...
I'm sorry I keep referring to my lil Anejo event recently, but as Gonz stated it was one of the things that kinda prompted this thread. But for example, I saw them and was amazed at the prices, then asked if this was normal, which got everyone to PM me. Never would I have bought them up right then and there without knowing as a solid fact that people would have bought them.
Maybe someone with different financial backing will be able to make that decision on their own, it's up to whoever is doing the initial buy, obviously.
So, for me, I'll def keep an eye out, but I'm most likely always going to be asking to gauge interest prior to making a purchase of such quantity. For whatever reason I have the luck that I'd get screwed, haha, everyone would have all the X that they needed at that given time.
I'll always keep an eye out for my Fellow BOTL's
Just my 2 cents.
Kinda reiterating Gonz's disclaimer...
I'm sorry I keep referring to my lil Anejo event recently, but as Gonz stated it was one of the things that kinda prompted this thread. But for example, I saw them and was amazed at the prices, then asked if this was normal, which got everyone to PM me. Never would I have bought them up right then and there without knowing as a solid fact that people would have bought them.
Maybe someone with different financial backing will be able to make that decision on their own, it's up to whoever is doing the initial buy, obviously.
So, for me, I'll def keep an eye out, but I'm most likely always going to be asking to gauge interest prior to making a purchase of such quantity. For whatever reason I have the luck that I'd get screwed, haha, everyone would have all the X that they needed at that given time.
I'll always keep an eye out for my Fellow BOTL's
Just my 2 cents.
H311oLHD
Active Member
I think our current system is flawed, but it works. Flawed b/c it's kind of luck of the draw if you're online at that very moment a person posts, while another BOTL could have been wanting these for a few months. However, I recently saw a decent deal (or what I thought was) and posted if there was interest in the cigars that were available and at the price they were at. I was able to link up w/ a botl in here and get a 5er of sticks that he was wanting for him. All it cost me was a trip to the PO and the B&M (oh damn ). Current system works, could it work better, i'm sure...but there are some serious consequences being touched on. I only can imagine that I'd be one of those kids out a few hundred dollars LOL - I have crappy luck like that. In my opinion, do whatever you're comfortable with - post then purchase or purchase & then post, but starting a thread COULD be a bit hairy!
). Current system works, could it work better, i'm sure...but there are some serious consequences being touched on. I only can imagine that I'd be one of those kids out a few hundred dollars LOL - I have crappy luck like that. In my opinion, do whatever you're comfortable with - post then purchase or purchase & then post, but starting a thread COULD be a bit hairy!