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What happened to the beads?

Bu11dog

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I bought a pound of 70% heartfelt beads. They have transferred from some little bowls to shot glasses since I received them. Only used distilled water in them. All bowls and shot glasses were washed before being used. I now find mold starting in all the shot glasses. I'm taking all the beads out and tossing them I guess. My question is what the heck happened?
Thanks for the insight!
 
How where the beads kept? When you moistened them did you drench them, leave excess water on them or just get them lightly wet? What is the temp of the humidor where you kept the beads?
 
Did you ever add so much water that it pooled at the bottom of the shot glass? Any excess can definitely promote mold.
 
How where the beads kept? When you moistened them did you drench them, leave excess water on them or just get them lightly wet? What is the temp of the humidor where you kept the beads?

Yes, I've been filling the shot glasses so that the top ones were damp but the glass was esssentially full. From reading the directions with them I was left with the impression I was doing it right. Can I save these or do I need to order another batch?
The humidity has three levels in the clock'idor. The bottom is the highest, ranging from 68-72%. The middle area is usually the lowest, ranging from 61-66%. The top ranges from 62-68. All are approx of course but you get the idea.
 
I made the same mistake and my beads molded as well. I ended up mixing a small amount of bleach with distilled water and which killed the mold and saved the beads. PM me if you would like directions.
 
I made the same mistake and my beads molded as well. I ended up mixing a small amount of bleach with distilled water and which killed the mold and saved the beads. PM me if you would like directions.

Thanks! I'll pm you later today, my crackberry doesn't send them for some reason.
I'll have to do a search for proper care of the beads once they are cleaned!








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ACK! Do you really want bleach anywhere near your cigars!?!?!

Taken from Heartfelt Industries website F.A.Q.

“Are humidification beads the same as ordinary desiccant silica gel?” Definitely NOT! Humidification beads give off water vapor, as well as absorb it, to maintain a specific RH which is ideal for a cigars particular need. This is not the case with silica gel which can only absorb water then must be dried out after it is saturated. By nature silica gel is not meant to control humidity, only lower it. Humidification beads are the premier product for precise control in terms of performance, cost effectiveness, and simplicity.

One good point to remember is humidification beads have an indefinite life span. There is nothing to wear out and all that is needed to maintain them is either the addition of distilled water or the drying out of the beads if they become water logged.


“How do I add distilled water to the beads when they get dry?”

There are a number of ways to do this. You can just pour distilled water on the beads. A lot of folks do it this way but the beads can fracture when it is done this way. One thing to remember, fracturing will not affect the efficiency of the beads or ruin them in any way, they will still do their job. A good rule of thumb is 25ml of distilled water per pound.

My 1/2 ounce humi tube takes 1-2 teaspoons of distilled water,

The 1 ounce humi tube takes 2-3 teaspoons of distilled water,

The 2 ounce humi tube takes 3-4 teaspoons of distilled water,

The four ounce humi tube takes 4-5 teaspoons of distilled water.

½ pound takes approximately 1-1 ½ tablespoons,

1 pound takes approximately 3-4 tablespoons.

You can put a container of distilled water, like a bowl, next to the beads and let them absorb the distilled water in this way. When they have absorbed all they can remove the bowl. This method is effective but takes a while for the beads to absorb the water.

The method I use and prefer is using a spray bottle. I purchased an inexpensive spray bottle at the grocery store and filled it with distilled water. When the beads need water I just spray them until they have absorbed enough distilled water. This method will work well if you have the beads in a bag or dish.

"If my beads are going white, should I add distilled water until they are all clear?"

The optimal is to have about 80% to 90% of the beads clear. Don't try to get them all clear because if you do they cannot absorb any sudden rise in humidity in your humi.

“What do I put the beads in?”

A great variety of containers are possible. You can use a Heartfelt drawstring mesh bag, Heartfelt Humi Tubes, place the beads in a shot glass or small dish, put them is a leftover container with holes drilled in the lid, nylon stockings (be careful stealing them from your wife or significant other) or any other container. The main point of whatever container you choose is to have the greatest amount of surface area as possible. If possible the beads should be no more than 1 to 1 ½ inches deep, this way they will work the best.

“How can I tell when the beads need water?”

This is very easy. The color of the beads is the dead giveaway. When they are full of distilled water they are pretty much clear and when they are completely dried out they are a bright white. Believe me you will be able to tell the difference.

VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!

You may have noticed that every time I mention the fluid that is added to the beads I say “distilled water”. This is extremely important; anything other than distilled water will ultimately ruin the beads. All the impurities in tap water will be drawn in by the beads and remain there. Ultimately the beads will get plugged up and not work anymore. The same is true with any type of humidifier solution (also known as 50/50 solution) this will also ruin the beads in the long run.

Thank you for purchasing Heartfelt Humidification beads. We feel that these are the best humidification beads on the market.

Heartfelt Humidification Beads were first developed for the art and museum industry and are used extensively by that industry for the stable storage of priceless artifacts and art. The manufacturer I purchase the beads from also supplies places such as the Smithsonian and The National Archives.

Question that are often asked; “Are Heartfelt Humidification Beads the same as ordinary desiccant silica gel?” Definitely NOT! Heartfelt Humidification Beads beads give off water vapor, as well as absorb it, to maintain a specific RH which is ideal for a cigars particular need. This is not the case with silica gel which can only absorb water then must be dried out after it is saturated. By nature silica gel is not meant to control humidity, only lower it. Humidification beads are the premier product for precise control in terms of performance, cost effectiveness, and simplicity.

One good point to remember is Heartfelt Humidification Beads have an indefinite life span. There is nothing to wear out and all that is needed to maintain them is either the addition of distilled water or the drying out of the beads if they become water logged.

VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!

You will notice that every time I mention the fluid that is added to the Heartfelt Humidification Beads I say “distilled water”. This is extremely important; anything other than distilled water will ultimately ruin the beads. All the impurities in tap water will be drawn in by the beads and remain there. Ultimately the beads will get plugged up and not work anymore. The same is true with any type of humidifier solution (also known as 50/50 solution) this will also ruin the beads in the long run.

“How much do I need for my ______?”

Here are some quantities for various containers.
5 cubic feet requires 1 pound of humidification beads.
1/3 pound of beads per 50 quarts (coolerdors)

Calculating the amount of Heartfelt Humidity Beads needed for your humi:

Measure the depth, width and height of you humi (example is 24” depth, 36” wide and 48” height)
Multiply the three: You can use the Calculator, click on the button in the directory on the left side of this window.

Large Humidor

24x36x48=41472 cubic inches

Multiply this by .00185185 (ounces needed per cubic inch); 41472x.00185185=76.799 ounces

Divide this answer by 16 (ounces in a pound); 76.799/16=4.79

You would need 4.79 pounds of Heartfelt Humidity Beads for this humi.

Lets do a smaller humidor

10x9x6=540 cubic inches

Multiply this by .00185185 (ounces needed per cubic inch); 540x.00185185=0.999 ounces

You would need One Ounce of Heartfelt Humidity Beads for this humi.

“How do I add distilled water to the beads when they get dry?”

There are a number of ways to do this. You can just pour distilled water on the beads. A lot of folks do it this way but the beads can fracture when it is done this way. One thing to remember, fracturing will not affect the efficiency of the beads or ruin them in any way, they will still do their job.

My 1/2 ounce humi tube takes 1-2 teaspoons of distilled water,

The 1 ounce humi tube takes 2-3 teaspoons of distilled water,

The 2 ounce humi tube takes 3-4 teaspoons of distilled water,

The four ounce humi tube takes 4-5 teaspoons of distilled water,

½ pound takes approximately 1-1 ½ tablespoons,

1 pound takes approximately 3-4 tablespoons.

You can put a container of distilled water, like a bowl, next to the beads and let them absorb the distilled water in this way. When they have absorbed all they can remove the bowl. This method is effective but takes a while for the beads to absorb the water.

The method I use and prefer is using a spray bottle. I purchased an inexpensive spray bottle at the grocery store and filled it with distilled water. When the beads need water I just spray them until they have absorbed enough distilled water. This method will work well if you have the beads in a bag or dish.

" If my beads are going white, should I add distilled water until they are all clear? "

The optimal is to have about 60% to 70% of the beads clear. Don't try to get them all clear because if you do they cannot absorb any sudden rise in humidity in your humi.

“What do I put the beads in?”

A great variety of containers are possible. You can use a Heartfelt drawstring mesh bag, Heartfelt Humi Tubes, place the beads in a shot glass or small dish, put them is a leftover container with holes drilled in the lid, nylon stockings (be careful stealing them from your wife or significant other) or any other container. The main point of whatever container you choose is to have the greatest amount of surface area as possible. If possible the beads should be no more than 1 to 1 ½ inches deep, this way they will work the best.

“How can I tell when the beads need water?”

This is very easy. The color of the beads is the dead give away. When they are full of distilled water they are pretty much clear and when they are completely dried out they are a bright white. Believe me you will be able to tell the difference.

I personally would toss them and chalk it up to a mistake. It sounds like you added way too much water to them. I add around 5ml (using a syringe) to my Large 65% Rh Heartfelt Aluminum Humidifier every month or so. And I open my 250 count humidor at least every 2 days for no other reason to let some fresh air in and (knock on wood) I've never had a mold issue to this day.
 
I did this a several months back and so far my beads are fine. They were rinsed clean multiple times with distilled water to remove the bleach before they were put near my sticks. Maybe it's not worth the risk but it worked for me.
 
Wurm, I apparently still didn't understand just how little water these things really need! My first huge newb blunder I guess!
It sounds interesting to try "cleaning" them so what the heck. If nothing else I can dry them out and use them for absorbing moisture from my gun storage ;)
 
I did this a several months back and so far my beads are fine. They were rinsed clean multiple times with distilled water to remove the bleach before they were put near my sticks. Maybe it's not worth the risk but it worked for me.


Update...

Thanks to SZ's advice and my patience the beads are back up and doing their job!!!! I put them through several drying cycles until I couldn't smell anymore bleach. All is lovely now and I saved having to buy more beads, which means I can save that for cigars :)
 
Im ordering heartfelt right now. just found mold on my humidifier that came with the humidor. I'm not going to loose my little collecton! so this is good info!!!
 
Mold is black dots on the beads?
I just checked my beads and a couple of them had black dots on them.
I immediately pulled them out of the coolidor.
Can it affect my cigars?

Is there any other solution then bleach if it is mold?
 
I'm not sure but I think that's mold starting. It didn't hurt my sticks and it was further along. Bleach works best but you need to be willing to spend some time doing the cleaning and not rush it. If you are worried about cash like me then it's the way to go for sure.
 
Post a pic. Most of the black flecks in the beads are not mold. Most of the time its just loose tobacco flakes that land in there.

If you have black dots that are round and appear to be formed in clusters as if they were growing. Also mold will usually appear soft and sometimes fuzzy.

This is a sure fire sign that you just used too much water. 1 oz is 29 ml. A pound of beads requires 25 ml so a shotglass, which is 1 oz to 1.5 oz will be slightly overkill. They tend to absorb much better if sprayed on anyway.
 
Someone else suggested a mixture of 40% hydrogen peroxide and 60% distilled water but I never read how that turned out. You might try searching "hydrogen peroxide".
 
so do you spray the beads before you put them into there container or after?

Plus i also heard that using gloves while handling the beads can help so that any germs/mold does not get transfered to the beads from your hands, not sure if that is over kill though.
 
so do you spray the beads before you put them into there container or after?

Plus i also heard that using gloves while handling the beads can help so that any germs/mold does not get transfered to the beads from your hands, not sure if that is over kill though.

Let me find the "recipe" and I'll PM it to you. Just remember this is at your own risk! Worked for me but you really need to have some patience or just be really cheap ;)
 
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