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What could be the cause?

theorangeman

theorangeman

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I have a bundle of Flor de Olivas that I really like. Very good smoke for the money. However, something that I can't seem to understand is that sometimes when I smoke one, the flavor has a slight sweetness to it and other times it doesn't. In fact, the bundle that I have (which have been in my humi for a couple of months now) I've probably smoked 6 or 7 of them. Only 2 or 3 had the slight sweet flavor and the others did not. I still enjoy the sticks regardless of the sweetness, but I really like that slight sweet flavor that I sometimes get.

To make things even more strange to me is that the very same thing happens with another cigar that I have (El Mejor). About every 3 cigars I smoke I get hints of sweet flavor and the others do not.

What could be the culprit of this inconsistency? Could it be the cigar, my palette, or something else? I'm really trying to understand this! In any event, I enjoy both of these "value" smokes but wish that they would ALL offer that slight sweet flavor that sometimes I get. Any thoughts on this?
 
Good thing to do is keep a journel of what you eat/drink or anything else you before or during the smoking of said cigar. This may help if it is something your doing during that time instead of being the cigar.
 
DevilsMilk said:
Good thing to do is keep a journel of what you eat/drink or anything else you before or during the smoking of said cigar. This may help if it is something your doing during that time instead of being the cigar.
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Ditto...time of day, food or drink that youve previously consumed, mood and many other factors all come into play when you try to sample cigar flavors...exactly why i will not red X a smoke if the very first one i have is terrable.

More humi time will also let them stabilize and let them taste more like one another.
 
It also could be that since the cigars come from a bundle...a lot of the time being seconds, the blend is sometimes off or the bundle in from different rollers off the different lines. Makes a difference.

-Fetter
 
If those are the same ones I have smoked, the wrapper has kind of an artificial sweetness that wears off after a while.

JK
 
Jim, I think actually you may have hit the nail on the head. After reading your post, I thought about the last time I had a Flor de Oliva and I remember getting a very small piece of the wrapper in my mouth (which came off after I cut it) and it had the sweetness that I was referring to. Therefore, I think it may very well be the wrapper which at times perhaps wears off the sweetness on some smokes before I even get to them while others, the flavor is still present. I'll be more observant the next time I fire one up and see if I can determine if this is what the issue is.
 
A few lower end smokes add the sweet tip to cigars to entice younger people starting the hobby. Almost half of the Acid lines do it and quite a few others. I had not yet seen a Flor de Oliva with a sweet tip, but I've only had 2 or 3 in sampler packs, so far.

-K-
 
Cigars often taste different at different times. I find that food, drink, time of day or even mood can affect the flavor of a cigar. Or even the cigar that I smoked earlier in the day will have a bearing on the flavor of my next cigar. The fact that a box of cigars can come from a variety of different rollers tables will also have an effect. But like you said, a good cigar is usually a good cigar!
 
Okay Mr. Syracuse :laugh: I'll tell ya RIGHT NOW:

UCONN HUSKIES RULE !!!

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Now that I've gotten that out of my system, I gotta say, even though Syracuse is one of our big rivals in the Big East, I was SO HAPPY for you and coach Jim B. for winning that National Championship!!! Jim is a CLASS ACT :thumbs:

Anyway back to yoru question. I notice the same thing with MANY of my favorite cigars, sometimes they hit me right and I say "WOW, that was a fantastic cigar!!!" and I'll smoke one the next day and for some reason, it's nowhere near as pleasant an experience as the day before.

For instance, right now I'm smoking a SC El Principe. Normally I LOVE these cigars but this one just is not doing it for me this evening. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that I smoked a SP Sanchos about six hours ago and my palate is kinda "burned out" I honestly don't know....

As others have mentioned, it depends on what you ate or drank earlier or maybe that you smoked on an empty stomach which is generally not a good idea, especially for those relatively new to cigars.

Another one of my favorited are the Oliva "O" Bolds. Some days they strike me as the best cigar in the world, other times they don't do it for me. It's not the cigar's fault, it's definitely my fault but I have yet to figure out exactly why.

Sorry I really didn't give you a solid answer but it's the best I could do.
 
I think you will see that this is fairly common with any cigar that you smoke regularly. I really like La Vieja Habana Fumas for the price, and I've never had one that I didn't enjoy but have had a few that amazed me.
 
Coventrycat - I appreciate the kind words regarding my beloved Orangemen (other than your comment about the huskies ruling). :laugh:

The Big East Basketball conference is just absolutely sick now with getting rid of Miami, VTech and BC (although they had their moments). Getting Cincy, Loui and Marquette - oh my goodness - look out ACC, the real contender has entered the building. Ok, enough Big East talk.

Yeah, I agree with what you are all writing. One thing that I know for certain affects my tastes is if I've had a cigar earlier in the day. I never smoke a premium after I've already had another smoke because I just don't enjoy it as much. It's like my palette is all used up or something. Although, I have been known to brush my teeth, gargle and eat a scoop of icecream to clean my mouth and palette so that I can enjoy the next cigar - this system works quite well. :)
 
I try to stay consistant with my smoking ritual. It keeps things favorable with smoking a paticular cigar. When I have an Opi, I usually have a cup of warm coffee to go with it(my preference), and I do that consistantly. The one time I changed it up (had a glass of Cab Sav) it made the XxX taste kinda sweet and slightly copper-esque. Not the flavor I'm used to with the XxX, but atleast I know why it went south like that.

Someone said something about a journal? Now that's the way to go.

-Rob
 
I agree the journal might help, but that to me would make things tedious. I just want to grab a stick out of my humi and smoke and enjoy it without having a writing task. However, what I do with new cigars is in fact keep a journal and write my impressions of the smoke.
 
Indyrob - that looks like a very cool program. I use Microsoft Word and have kept it pretty simple. I created a template which includes all of the info that I would ever care to recall as well as an area for the picture of the cigar band which I scan in after every new smoke (to remind me of the cigar). Keeping a journal like what we both use is fantastic. As a new smoker, I didn't think much about the value of doing so, but now after a couple of years, the journal is both fun to go back and look at but also helps remind me from time to time of things that are helpful to remember about a particular smoke.
 
Bundle cigars are cheap for a reason. They are inconsistent and generally seconds of more famous brands. I would suggest smoking regular line Padrons and Green band Fuentes for an inexpensive cigar.
 
Surpisingly, I don't have a lot of experience with either of those (green band fuentes or Padrons). The only Padron I have smoked is the 3000, which I enjoyed. Perhaps, the next purchase I make I'll have to pick some up. Thanks for the suggestion, Master!
 
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