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Tasting Primer

ParaGod

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Okay I know smoking cigars are very much like wine, in that there are lots of different flavors involved, my problem is putting them down so that I can share them with others. I am good at wine reviews, but I have yet been able to pin down the flavors and various nuance's of cigar flavors. So if the other brother and sister ;) CP members would be kind enough to share there expertise in this area so that we the un-learned can benefit. It would be greatly appreciated. :D
 
I wouldn't stress over it too much. And by that I mean that if you don't taste leather or cedar or citrus don't force yourself to find these flavors. Let them come to you if they will. Also, when I'm smoking a cigar I may get a hint of a flavor and it may remind me of something but rarely does a cigar ever really taste like something other than a cigar. You may get a hint of some flavor or another but it will be very subtle. It's like trying to remember something that's on the tip of your tongue...the harder you think about it the more elusive it is.
 
If you are going to "taste" a cigar, don't smoke it after a particularly flavorable meal. Stay away from cigarettes, gum/candy, or strong flavored drinks. Taste with your favorite bottled water. I find that I "taste" things better in the morning after an egg and toast breakfast but prior to drinking coffee. Unfortunately, if I am tasting a cigar for the first time, a strong one will kick my ass easily. LOL. That's my 2 cents.
Emo
 
I would say that between your humidor and the tree you became intimate with.... You should have cedar locked up! :sign:

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

God I kill myself!
 
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Great replies by Bruddah FT and Bruddah Emo!

Now as for JoeM.... Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Aloha,

Wade
 
Back on topic PG...at least until Joe's next post. When I took classes to learn how to judge wine they taught me how to break things down into the primary flavor components: mostly sweetness and acidity. It's the balance between these two forces that separates the bad from the good. Then beyond that there is fruit, astringency (from the tannin) and oak. These things separate the good from the very good. Then the next layer contains things like apple, citrus, leather, butter, tar, earth and so on. These are the things that separate the very good from the sublime. Do you see what's happening here? There is a narrowing down, a focusing of the focus.

In cigars, I'm much less experienced but the same sort of process applies. At the top level there is body (full, medium or mild). Next is the interplay between things like sweetness, spice, nuttiness and wood. At the deepest level there are specific flavors if you can tweeze them out of the rest. Or more accurately: if you can open yourself to them and let them identify themselves to you.

In addition, as you know, cigars (good ones) evolve as you smoke them. (Wines do this too, but unless they are very old they do it to a lesser extent.) The cigar you finish may not bear any resemblance to the one you started. Many Fuentes (esp. the sun growns) go through 3 distinct phases. Or maybe the cigar stays the same throughout and it's us that change. Or perhaps seeing The Matrix Reloaded four times in a row is too many.
 
Very well said FT, I appreciate the incite. I shall endeavor to use that info in my future cigar smoking. :D :thumbs:
 
seems to me it isn't really about trying to identify what a cigar tastes like, it's more about whether or not it has the characteristics of what you personally are looking for in a smoke. For me, I like

lots of smoke
easier draw over tighter, but not underfilled either
spiciness
medium to full bodied...even very full but not mild

Some cigars definitely taste better than others, and if they also meet the above criteria, they become my favorites. Why they taste better is the hard part to describe.

A lot of people need Baskin Robbins to have 31 flavors. I would be good with 7 or 8. For me, it's the same way with cigars.

It's hard to describe specific flavors, but if it has these characteristics, a good even burn, and doesn't taste just plain old bad, odds are, it's a cigar I'll enjoy :)
 
rocket15 said:
lots of smoke
easier draw over tighter, but not underfilled either
spiciness
medium to full bodied...even very full but not mild
That hits it right on the button. :love:

I think a lot of the problem with taste, maybe just for me, is a preconcieved idea of what the cigar will taste like. We have all read the profiles and reviews before we buy a particular cigar. Then when you light it for the first time you have those other taste in your mind. Perhaps they are there, most times for me they aren't. If your serious about tasting the stick, keep a notepad beside you, and make a few notes as you smoke. Do this a couple of times with a new cigar then compare your notes from each time. Keep in mind that most of us aren't ever going to taste roasted meat, or metal shavings, at least I hope I don't. :p For myself I want to taste tobacco. If it doesn't taste like tobacco (Lars) why smoke it?
 
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