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Ramon Allones Small Club Corona...

stevehawk

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First a little background: As some of you may know, I live in Boise, Idaho. And one of the (many) great things about Boise is our football team, the Boise State Broncos. Well, to make a long story short they played in the Liberty Bowl against the Univ. of Louisville this afternoon and I’ve been waiting for this game for a couple of weeks. After a back and forth nail-biter of a game, they fell just short of a win. As the final play of the game played itself out (an intercepted Hail Mary for the win), I was down… really down… Goodbye bowl win, goodbye NCAA-leading win streak (which now belongs to USC) and goodbye to a perfect 2004 season. :(

Right after the game, my wife packed up our youngest (11) and headed off to the store. My son hates my smoking even more than the wife, so I figured “what the hell”, it’s a perfect time for a smoke. I headed to the humi (I’m a newb and I’ve only got one) and plucked out the RASS Small Club Corona that Kingpin, my very generous SS, had gifted me. It’s small and I hoped to be finished by the time my wife and son returned.

As some of you may also know, my cigar smoking has been restricted to the porch or the garage, so I headed outside. The weather was not bad – a balmy 42 with no wind -- hell, damn near a warm spell for this time of year. I checked my watch (5:40pm), and inspected the goods.

The stick is smaller than I usually smoke, but the wrapper was a nice dark brown, with a few small veins. The construction seemed good, and had no noticeable flaws. I wet the end in preparation for the punch and right away thought, “hey, that wrapper’s got some powerful flavor.” Because of the smaller ring size, I was somewhat hesitant with the punch, but the stick took it without any problem. I inspected the cap and it looked perfect – another indication of excellent construction. I took a preliminary draw prior to torching it and was rewarded with excellent flow. Not too tight, not too loose. “So far, so good,” I thought.

I lit the foot and took several draws to get the end completely red. Again, no problems, so I sat back and replayed the game in my head. So close…

I’ve been smoking cigars for almost a year now, but this was only my third ISOM. The first two, a Partagas and a RyJ Churchill had been somewhat disappointing – they certainly had not been the “peak of enjoyment” that I had been led to expect, and I was wondering what this one would be like.

Right away, I noticed that the RASS was putting out a lot of smoke and after about 3 minutes, I began concentrating on the taste and tried to decipher the flavors of the stick. It had a nutty flavor, and loaded with a spiciness that had my lips began tingling in no time. Again I thought, “so far, so good,” and settled back for a nice smoke.

Within minutes, I had revised my opinion from “so far, so good” to “hey, this is pretty good.” I inspected the smoke between drags and notice a pleasing curl of smoke pouring from the cap with each taste – another good sign. Being a smaller ring size than I normally smoke, the stick seemed to shrink before my eyes. Before I knew it, the ash was an inch long and, as I usually do, I gave a light tap to see if it was ready to fall. Nothing doing, so I kept on… By now, my entire mouth was tingling and I was thinking, “This cigar is damn good.”

After 20 minutes, the ash, which was a layered dark- and light-gray, was nearly two inches long (almost half the length of the cigar). I gave the stick another light tap (my fourth) and finally sent it tumbling. At this point, I knew I was onto something and was beginning to (at last) have a good appreciation for the ISOM experience. I was also coming to the realization that was probably the best damn cigar I had ever tasted.

With two inches of stick left to go, I was hoping the end would never come and wondering why I had thrown away all my roach clips 20 years ago – hell I was gonna need one now. Needless to say, I had forgotten about the game and was completely into the taste of that powerful little mofo.

As they say, all good things must come to an end and this cigar was no different. After 45 minutes, my lips and my fingers were fighting for space on what was left of the stick when my wife and son pulled into the drive. I gave them a wave and waited for the inevitable reproach of my 11 year old son. Sure enough, as he got out of the car he yelled over at me, “Dad, put it out.” Well, good timing can be a wonderful thing. Having fought the good fight for as long as I could, I had to acknowledge that the cigar was dead. I waved to him, nodded, and said, “Just for you, Son,” and tossed the tiny nub into the shrubbery where it would decompose next to several of its lesser-tasting cousins.

As we entered the house together I couldn’t help but tell my wife, “That’s the best cigar I’ve ever had.” She just shook her head and told me to wash my hands and brush my teeth… which I dutifully did. :love:

It’s been a few hours now and I can still taste it, though. :thumbs:
 
A RASS or an RASCC?

RASS = Ramon Allones Specially Selected (a robusto)
RASCC = Ramon Allones Smal Club Corona (a minuto)

I personally love the RASCC's and while I love the RA profile, I've never really enjoyed any RASS I've ever smoked :(
 
coventrycat86 said:
A RASS or an RASCC?

RASS = Ramon Allones Specially Selected (a robusto)
RASCC = Ramon Allones Smal Club Corona (a minuto)

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RASCC. Sorry, just a newb.
 
RASCCs are probably my favorite minuto. I must smoke too fast or something because they seldom last me more than 20 minutes which is why I thought you may have actually been smoking a RASS.

Lots of people like Partagas Shorts and Bolivar Coronas Juniors which are the same size as the RASCC. Another one this size is the San Cristobal de la Habana El Principe.

The El Principe and the RASCC alternate as my "favorite" depending on my mood and I like them both better than the BCJs

The RASCCs are becoming very popular and can at times be hard to find :(

Interesting that your impression of Partagas and a RyJ were disappointing because that's my take on those as well.
 
coventrycat86 said:
The El Principe and the RASCC alternate as my "favorite" depending on my mood and I like them both better than the BCJs

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The RASCC was certainly tops in my book so far. I'll have to give the El Principe a try sometime. :thumbs:


coventrycat86 said:
Interesting that your impression of Partagas and a RyJ were disappointing because that's my take on those as well.
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Hey, you know what they say... great minds and all that... ;)
 
Steve,

I did a couple of newbie trades with Bill (coventrycat86) and got both of these cigars as part of the trade (I actually bought him a box of RASCC as my part of our first trade). I have smoked several of the RASCC's and they are very good. I just smoked my first El Principe last night. It was tasty. I'm also a newbie, but I could tell it was going to be a good cigar on the first puff. I actually went out and bought a couple of nice, regular sized cigars to smoke on New Year's Eve, but was too tired to take the time to enjoy them, so smoked a shorty and went to bed.

Bill had included a couple of Quintero Brevas which I really liked also. They are a bit bigger and they are also less expensive than the other two. I just bought my first box. I think they are a very good cigar, they compare favorably to the above mentioned cigars and they are less expensive. They were also my first ISOM purchase and the total cost was very reasonable.

If you want to try them, send me your address and I'll send you a couple of them.


Cheers,
Joe
 
Wow, Joe, that's very generous. I'll send my addy via PM. Please be sure to send me yours as well.

-- Steve
 
jgohlke said:
If you want to try them, send me your address and I'll send you a couple of them.

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I'll send you my address for a couple of them, seems like a fair trade to me :D

Sounds like a popular place will have the rascc in about a month, so they say. Can't wait!
 
Hey Joe:

That's a very nice offer . I'm a fellow newbie and have not
tried a Quintero before. I do have a few of the El Principes.
How's about a trade ? :)
 
I just tried one the RASCC's last night while grilling, what a nice smoke. It's a great size for short smoke with a very nice aroma. I can see I am going to need to add some of these to the humidor.

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what's a good price I should be paying for a San Cristobal El Principe or the RASCC?
 
Thought I would revive an older thread rather than start a new one of this cigar. Did a box split of these with LC and mrjingles this month. Smoked on immediately. Here is my impression and review.

Ramon Allones Small Club Corona (MAY04)

Good looking little cigar with a nice, medium-reddish-brown wrapper and a slight box-press. The wrapper looked good, with few veins or seams. Well put together. The pre-light nose was mild, but had that earthy loam smell of cuban tobacco. The pre-light draw was, in a word, tight. :angry:

The cigar lit easily, but the draw did not loosen up much at all. The tight draw did not hamper smoke production, I just had to work for it. My work was rewarded with ample, thin-to-medium smoke. The cigar burned even down to the 1 1/2 inch mark where the wrapper started to split. At this point the cigar opened up, but began to burn unevenly. The nice thing about it was that it never got hot, even when I was about to burn my fingertips. My impression was that the cigars were too moist. This is actually, in my opinion, good for shipping, but I should have been more patient. :blush: Oh well. The ash was very firm and a mottled gray, staying on the cigar for an inch at a time.

The draw and burn issues had absolutely nothing to do with the flavor. Wow, what a nice cigar. It started with a creamy coffee flavor that had an undertone of alfalfa. Now, that doesn't sound very good, but the flavor that I detected is more like hay smells, which I find very pleasant. The creaminess stayed and the finish developed a definite mocha profile. As the cigar developed, it stayed in the medium-body range and added some sweet spice to the tastes coming through. There were also some definite floral tea flavors mixed in as well. The point is...it was a very complex little cigar. I can't wait to smoke more of these as they dry out and continue to age.

I've had three minutos now. The SCdH, an R&J, and the RASCC. The Ramon Allones is by far my favorite. I have a Partagas waiting to be smoked as well. I guess we'll see. Because the tight draw detracted from the overall smoking experience, I have dock the RASCC a few points. For the initial offering from this box, I rate it an A-. I think they will only get better.
 
Nice TN cigardawg, these are a nice cigar but I've been enjoying the SC a bit more lately. The last RASCC and Partigas Short that I've recently had were both plugged and couldn't be remedied no matter how much I tried. I was trying to do comparison tastings at the time.

:cool:
 
Damn Dawg; another fantastic review. I though about throwing in my $0.02, but i guess there is no point! :laugh:

Thanks for the box split on these! I guess the only question is, do you have room in the humi to properly age them!!!! :sign:
 
NorCalCigarLover said:
Nice TN cigardawg, these are a nice cigar but I've been enjoying the SC a bit more lately. The last RASCC and Partigas Short that I've recently had were both plugged and couldn't be remedied no matter how much I tried. I was trying to do comparison tastings at the time.

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That sux NorCal :( sorry to hear that. I just came across a few boxes of Dec '04 RASCCs and they are smoking perfectly :thumbs:

These are probably my favorite minuto, depending on my mood either these or the SC El Principe.
 
coventrycat86 said:
NorCalCigarLover said:
Nice TN cigardawg, these are a nice cigar but I've been enjoying the SC a bit more lately. The last RASCC and Partigas Short that I've recently had were both plugged and couldn't be remedied no matter how much I tried. I was trying to do comparison tastings at the time.

:cool:
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That sux NorCal :( sorry to hear that. I just came across a few boxes of Dec '04 RASCCs and they are smoking perfectly :thumbs:

These are probably my favorite minuto, depending on my mood either these or the SC El Principe.
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CC, I even tried your trick with the drywall screw, which has worked great for me before. The first RASCC that I had was fantastic so I was really looking forward to this second one. But alas ...... :( .

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cigardawg said:
Thought I would revive an older thread rather than start a new one of this cigar. Did a box split of these with LC and mrjingles this month. Smoked on immediately. Here is my impression and review.


LC-Smoker said:
Damn Dawg; another fantastic review. I though about throwing in my $0.02, but i guess there is no point! :laugh:

Thanks for the box split on these! I guess the only question is, do you have room in the humi to properly age them!!!! :sign:
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You two have no patience.
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