Question on the location of cubans...

[mhortsch]

Just got back from the inlaws, was talking to the future wifes uncle (he was smoking a gloria cubano double maduro), he says, in order of quality and taste, that cubans are best from:

Cuba - duh
London
Spain
Canada

He claims, if you are gonna get cubans, stay away from ones that are bought from canada or spain.

Is this true?

 

[psyktek]

Not that I would ever buy Cubans (they're illegal, ya know), but that's total crap!!

 

[mhortsch]

Not that I would buy them either, cuz they are illegal. We were just talking...if someone were, say...to break the law, and buy cubans.

 

[AVB]

Never heard anything like that.

 

[sir-smokes-a-lot]

Considering:

EMS = english market selection
SMS = spanish market selection

Do not know why they would give a distinction to a country if they only get crap cigars. And, there are many other countries that smoke cigars .... tho I am sure the rest of europe only gets ****ty cigars, Germany, Switzerland, etc ...

 

[moki]

He claims, if you are gonna get cubans, stay away from ones that are bought from canada or spain.

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Just nod your head and smile politely.

 

[CoventryCat86]

He claims, if you are gonna get cubans, stay away from ones that are bought from canada or spain.

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Just nod your head and smile politely.

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:laugh:
I second that one!!
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[KayakinBoy]

i agree with everyone else. Working at the tinderbox, I've really began to hear some stupid things. I've got habanos from my big brother up north before, and no problem for me. Uh oh, I broke the law. Come and get me police!

 

[Lumberg]

i agree with everyone else. Working at the tinderbox, I've really began to hear some stupid things. I've got habanos from my big brother up north before, and no problem for me. Uh oh, I broke the law. Come and get me police!

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That's neither funny nor appropriate IMO.

As far as the OP, there may be something to it, since isn't CubaTobacco partially owned by a Spanish company? So if anything some really nice ones may go to Spain.

While that's possible, I don't think it's probable. I think a Cuban's a Cuban.

Thirdly, this thread should be in a different forum.

 

[cigardawg]

i agree with everyone else. Working at the tinderbox, I've really began to hear some stupid things. I've got habanos from my big brother up north before, and no problem for me. Uh oh, I broke the law. Come and get me police!

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That's neither funny nor appropriate IMO.

As far as the OP, there may be something to it, since isn't CubaTobacco partially owned by a Spanish company? So if anything some really nice ones may go to Spain.

While that's possible, I don't think it's probable. I think a Cuban's a Cuban.

Thirdly, this thread should be in a different forum.

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50% of CubaTabacco, now Habanos SA, is owned by the huge tobacco conglomeration, Altadis. Altadis is the result of the merger of Seita (a French company) and Tabacalera SA (a Spanish company). Altadis also owns what used to be Consolidated Cigars (think Dominican Montecristo, H Upmann, etc.) and controlling interest in the retail portion of JR Cigars.

As to the original question...I have to agree with Moki.

 

[alexgtp]

:sign: ......


like Moki said!!

 

[ricmac25]

...the location of Cubans?



Try Miami.

 

[Matt R]

Believe it or not, there is a difference, or at least in the past there was. There are only a few importers of Havanas through out the world and they have specific zones that they serve. The UK zone if controlled by Hunter & Frankau. There policy has always been to inspect the cases they are receving from Cuba. Then, if they are up to their standard they accept them and place their sticker on them. Thus, the EMS or English Market Selection. Pacific cigar does the same for the Far East market. They do reject cigars and those cigars are sent elsewhere.. they are not destroyed. You'll find varying qualities across the globe. In the past this was more evident, but with better production, since Altadis' partnership, there is less of a difference.

You will also find varying qualities from different countries for the simple fact of the climate in those countries. This will not be as evident for online purchasing, but if you are actually in the countries buying, you'll find varying qualities because of the way they store cigars, etc., etc.

In general I think you'll find better quality in the UK, Canada and the Far East, when you compare the cross section of the entire world, with Spain and Switzerland coming up in a close second.

 

[mhortsch]

His big claim, is that the cigars were taylored to the markets taste.

Canada and Spain's were much much more mild, almost washed out. While London's were more of the robust flavor that they should be.

Seems odd to me, that would mean the factories would have to manufacture multiple variations of the same cigar.

Sorry about the wrong forum!

 

[ggiese]

His big claim, is that the cigars were taylored to the markets taste.

Canada and Spain's were much much more mild, almost washed out. While London's were more of the robust flavor that they should be.

Seems odd to me, that would mean the factories would have to manufacture multiple variations of the same cigar.

Sorry about the wrong forum!

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Okay....

Did you tell him, "Here's your sign!!!!" :sign:

THE STUPID SIGN

Stupid people should have to wear signs that just say, "I'm Stupid." That way you wouldn't rely on them, would you? You wouldn't ask them anything. It would be like, "Excuse me...oops...never mind, didn't see your sign."

It's like before my wife and I moved. Our house was full of boxes and there was a U-Haul truck in our driveway. My neighbor comes over and says, "Hey, you moving?" "Nope. We just pack our stuff up once or twice a week to see how many boxes it takes. Here's your sign."

A couple of months ago I went fishing with a buddy of mine, we pulled his boat into the dock, I lifted up this big ol' stringer of bass and this idiot on the dock goes, "Hey, y'all catch all them fish?" "Nope. Talked 'em into giving up. Here's your sign."

I was watching one of those animal shows on the Discovery Channel. There was a guy inventing a shark bite suit. And there's only one way to test it. "Alright, Jimmy, you got that shark suit on, it looks good... They want you to jump into this pool of sharks, and you tell us if it hurts when they bite you." "Well, all right, but hold my sign. I don't wanna lose it."

Last time I had a flat tire, I pulled my truck into one of those side-of-the-road gas stations. The attendant walks out, looks at my truck, looks at me, and I SWEAR he said, "Tire go flat?" I couldn't resist. I said, "Nope. I was driving around and those other three just swelled right up on me. Here's your sign."

We were trying to sell our car about a year ago. A guy came over to the house and drove the car around for about 45 minutes. We get back to the house, he gets out of the car, reaches down and grabs the exhaust pipe, then says, "Darn that's hot!" See, if he'd been wearing his sign, I could have stopped him.

I learned to drive an 18-wheeler in my days of adventure. Wouldn't you know, I misjudged the height of a bridge. The truck got stuck and I couldn't get it out, no matter how I tried. I radioed in for help and eventually a local cop shows up to take the report. He went through his basic questioning...okay...no problem. I thought for sure he was clear of needing a sign...until he asked, "So, is your truck stuck?" I couldn't help myself! I looked at him, looked back at the rig and then back to him and said, "No, I'm delivering a bridge... here's your sign."

I stayed late at work one night and a co-worker looked at me and said, "Are you still here?" I replied, "No. I left about 10 minutes ago. Here's your sign."

Anybody you know need a sign today?

The next time someone says something stupid ask them where their sign is.

 

[mrjinglesusa]

i agree with everyone else.  Working at the tinderbox, I've really began to hear some stupid things.  I've got habanos from my big brother up north before, and no problem for me.  Uh oh, I broke the law.  Come and get me police! 

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That's neither funny nor appropriate IMO.

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:thumbs: Agree. You'd think KB would know better but I guess not...

 

[psyktek]

Yup, BATF are saddling up as we speak. Not to mention the DOHS.




I can hear it now: "Canada, the next embargo."





:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


(I always thought there was something suspicious about "Red Rose Tea" :whistling: )

 

[ricmac25]

His big claim, is that the cigars were taylored to the markets taste.

Canada and Spain's were much much more mild, almost washed out. While London's were more of the robust flavor that they should be.

Seems odd to me, that would mean the factories would have to manufacture multiple variations of the same cigar.

Sorry about the wrong forum!

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I was under the impression that the Spaniards, like the Cubans, preferred their cigars with a more robust flavor. Like the Jose Piedras for example.

 

[stevehawk]

i agree with everyone else. Working at the tinderbox, I've really began to hear some stupid things. I've got habanos from my big brother up north before, and no problem for me. Uh oh, I broke the law. Come and get me police!

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That's neither funny nor appropriate IMO.

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:thumbs: Agree. You'd think KB would know better but I guess not...

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Uh... are we talking about the same KB? :whistling:




j/k KB

 

[Matt R]

His big claim, is that the cigars were taylored to the markets taste.

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This is true in a way. It was even more true before the embargo and earlier. There was a definite difference in what was manufactured for which country. Cigars blended for the US were much lighter than English market, for example. Even after the embargo certain brands were introduced for different markets to satisfy a broader audience in specific areas. This is also true for vitolas. Some countries smoked more corona sized cigars than bigger cigars. Still today, larger ring gauge cigars are more popular in the US than abroad.

Now, they may purchase more of one brand than another in a certain country, but Habanos SA is not specifically belnding cigars for individual countries. So, depending on the age of this person, he is sort of correct.