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Pinar 3000 Churchill from eshaw...

stevehawk

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Okay... First let me apologize for starting a new thread on this particular cigar. However, after reading all the previous reviews on the Pinar (good and bad), I asked for -- and received -- a Pinar 3000 Churchill to do my own taste test (thanks to eshaw). I promised to post my review here, so here it is:

The cigar was a chocolate color, with okay construction. The appearance was fair, but there were some rather large veins all along the stick.

The stick took a punch well and fired up with no problem. The smoke just poured off the thing after only a few puffs, both off the foot and from the punch. There was more smoke coming off of this thing than any other smoke I've ever had.

But that's where the good ended and the bad took over. This thing was so spicey it was like smoking a jalapeno pepper. After two minutes my tongue and mouth were burning. And the taste was just awful... but I fought threw it for another couple of minutes thinking that it would mellow out and settle down. Not to be... before long the burning sensation had traveled into the back of my mouth and down my throat. I hate to say this, but it was the same feeling I get after tossing chunks -- you know, when the acid has had a chance to eat at the back of your throat? Well, that's what it felt like.

Needless to say, I gave up on the stick pretty quick after that. I don't think I smoked an inch of the thing before calling it quits. After putting it out, my mouth continued to burn for about twenty minutes. Now, an hour and a half later, it still tastes like I've been licking an ash tray all day. :(

All I can say is that if you guys like these, more power to you. I'd also guess that you problably smoke cigarettes as well as cigars, cause the taste of a cigarrette is about the closest taste-wise that I can compare this to. (Other than the jalapeno...)

Eric, thanks again for passing one of these along to me... you rat bastid.

j/k, of course... the other sticks you sent along more than make up for the pain of this particular experience. ;)
 
Now you realize why I tossed in the extras. I didn't have the heart to do that to you. :p
 
mmmm...
I want to try a smoke that leaves me the flavor of puke'n'peppers! :0

nothing like the lingering finish of stomach acid and cigarette, huh?

thanks for the great review, steve! (no, seriously!)

eric, you're mean! :p
 
Hey now, when he saw that I sent him extra sticks because I felt bad for him, he knew what he was getting into. :p
 
What I find hard to believe is that there are guys (mrjingles, cigardawg, et al) who actually like these things. Maybe the supply they have in that part of VA is superior to any other, though.

But, hey, as Shadow so eloquently posted in another thread, "Smoke what you like, like what you smoke." If you do that, then it's all good. :thumbs:
 
This is amazing. We really should do a Pinar swap and see if they really are that different. As far as I know, mrjingles, cigardawg and myself all purchased the Pinars from the same source. And I think our toros are actually all from the same box.

I would be interested to try one of the ones you guys have and visa versa. Not just cause you gave them a bad review, but the tastes and everything seem like a totally different cigar.

Sorry you had a bad experience with them :(
 
Very strange indeed. The Toro I had was excellent. And like LC-Smoker said, the ones we have had we all from the same box and same retailer. I know cigardawg has had Pinars from several vendors and many different vitolas. Oh well, to each his own I guess. Good advice from Shadow BTW. Not everyone has to like the same cigars. :whistling:
 
LC-Smoker said:
We really should do a Pinar swap and see if they really are that different.

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Not a bad idea. I only had the one that Eric (Eshaw99) sent to me, so I'd suggest you send him a PM with an offer to swap.

I'd be interested to hear about the results and see if they really are the same smoke. Based on the one I had, and from what you all have to say about them, I'm guessing they are different.

Then again, you VA boys may just be off the deep end. I grew up in Charlestown, WV, so from experience I know that that's a very real possibility also! :D
 
I just had to chime it. The sensations (not sure if we can call them flavors) are not the least indicative of any of the Pinars that I have smoked. I think unlike LC and Jingles, I have smoked the rothchild, churchill, belicoso, and I have the box of toros that we have all been sampling out of. I also have an "A" that I can't wait to fire up. All of the sizes have been great. I did a review on the churchill on this board.
Not to blame you, if I had a cigar that tasted like "puke'n'peppers" I would put it out too (not to mention overdosing on chocolate ice cream to get the taste out of my mouth). However, all of the pinars that I have had have had great tastes. Lots of charred wood flavors, some coffee, and maybe a hint of pepper (though not a lot). I have noted a citrus taste on the finish. Also, to answer the question, I don't smoke cigarettes, so that doesn't explain my liking of the flavors.
This is a very strange phenomenon. It could be that the cigars are just different...could be that the three of us are the only ones on the board that like them. I just don't know. I would be up for a swap if anyone is interested. Just PM me and let me know. :)
 
Another Newbie on the Pinar Bandwagon with us; at least there is still plenty of room!! :p
 
LC-Smoker said:
Another Newbie on the Pinar Bandwagon with us; at least there is still plenty of room!!    :p
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And with that post i got the third little block under my name and i have also been promoted to "Full Member". I feel like I deserve a medle or something.....
 
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