Dave
Padilla Lanceros, yum yum!!
Any one have any suggestions? I got a sweet tooth. :blush:
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On the hunt for some Maple Syrup
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Devil Doc
When Death smiles, Corpsmen smile back
I make the stuff. You want 2006 or the upcoming season. What grade? How much. And I can assure you it's 100% pure. We don't have any other kind. State of VT is kind of touchy about that sort of thing. PM me.
Doc.
Doc.
Dave
Padilla Lanceros, yum yum!!
There's a grade? I'm a total noob for this (Just got off Aunt Jemima).
Hmmmm....
Doing some wikipedia searching....
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Ok, question time!!!!!
1)Do you grade by U.S. or Vermont standard?
2)If wikipedia is correct, Grade B has the more robust flavor, then how are the differences in flavor when comparing Grade A Light Amber, Grade A Medium Amber, and Grade A Dark Amber?
3)Is 2006 a good year for maple syrup or is there no bad year for maple syrup?
4)Looking for 4oz of each Grade if you got.
ggiese
Well-Known Member
Oh, crap... Look out!!! DD has the crack of maple syrup...
That plastic jug the syrup came in is as clean as the day it was made - after I licked the entire thing over before tossing it...
Swissy
Livin' the retired life!
Hmmm...
Doc... I may be interested in some too. Had some that I LOVED - much better than even the store bought pure...
Doc... I may be interested in some too. Had some that I LOVED - much better than even the store bought pure...
Devil Doc
When Death smiles, Corpsmen smile back
It would take me all day to adequately school you in the nuances of syrup grades. Many flatlanders prefer grade B because they don't know any better. Grade A light Amber, Fancy in VT, is preferred among those in the know. But it sells fast and can be quite expensive. Conditions in the sugar bush have to be at their best to make this grade. I'm pretty sure I have some grade A medium amber. PM me your addy and I'll send you a qt. No charge. I really don't want to sell my syrup here on cigar pass because I would have to make a profit and that's not what I'm here for.
Doc.
Doc.
Devil Doc
When Death smiles, Corpsmen smile back
Dave
Padilla Lanceros, yum yum!!
jgohlke
My other hobby
Driving around in Vermont...seeing groups of guys tending a cooking pot every 1/2 mile, we can't figure out wtf is going on..we pull over, get out of the car walk over to a small group group and ask "What are you guys doing?"..."Boilin' sap" is their reply.
"Huh." I say and head back to the car. I get in and the family asks me..."What are they doing?"..."Boiling sap" is my answer. After we guess at it some and ask around, we finally figure out they are making maple syrup.
Now, in our family when you don't want to say what you are really doing or just want to be a smart a$$, the answer to "Whatcha doin?" is "Boilin sap!".
They those Vermonts...fuggin hilarious!
"Huh." I say and head back to the car. I get in and the family asks me..."What are they doing?"..."Boiling sap" is my answer. After we guess at it some and ask around, we finally figure out they are making maple syrup.
Now, in our family when you don't want to say what you are really doing or just want to be a smart a$$, the answer to "Whatcha doin?" is "Boilin sap!".
They those Vermonts...fuggin hilarious!
BkCloud114
I hate Moochers !!!!!
Believe it or not..... my wife buys "pure maple syrup" from Walmart.... I don't know the brand.
I know that there are no Walmarts in Bklyn so let me know if you need some.
I know that there are no Walmarts in Bklyn so let me know if you need some.
Devil Doc
When Death smiles, Corpsmen smile back
Who you callin hillarious, fuggin' flatlander. I admit, we don't suffer foolish questions gracefully. For instance: Flatlander, " This road go to Montpeiler?" Vermonter, "Nope stays right here." Here's somthing you may find interesting
Flatlanders
by Erin Moreau
The term flatlander derives from ‘flatland’, which describes a geographical location as land that is predominantly flat. A flatlander would be a person who is from this type of a region.
To a Vermonter, the term flatlander takes on a whole new meaning. In the simplest terms, it means a person from outside the confines of Vermont. Often times, the actual geographical location of an outsider can be mountainous, but this weighs little on Vermont’s opinion. There is a gray area of where the flatlander boundaries exist, but to some die-hards, a flatlander is anyone not born in the state of Vermont. Others only consider the states south of Vermont that are located within New England. Massachusetts, Connecticut and Rhode Island fall victim to the term by this definition, but it is unlike Vermonters to leave out New Jersey on their definition of flatlander. And for some, a flatlander is anyone with white plates on their car.
Flatlander is used as a negative slander on non-native Vermonters or visitors. In it’s basic concept, the term implies a person who visits the state or lives here that brings negative qualities from their home to our state. It is a person who is unfamiliar with traditional Vermont ways. Nathan Mansfield, a native Vermonter, defines the term as “Thinking they [a flatlander] can meld their beliefs of what Vermont is into our reality.” Unfortunately for the flatlander, even if they assimilate to Vermont culture and reside here for 50 years, they can never rid themselves of this label.
Opinions on this term run from strong to mild. Hal Goldman, a local lawyer, is passionate about flatlanders, and blames significant problems plaguing Vermont upon this group of people.
Hundreds of thousands of highly educated, well-off people invaded a state [Vermont] with a unique culture and history. They seized control of its resources and institutions, demeaned and destroyed the indigenous values of its people, altered the landscape, and drove many of the natives from their homes as a result of their activities. If this happened in Africa, the same people would call it colonialism. In Vermont, it’s called liberal chic.
Goldman is just one of many angry Vermonters, who have seen businesses close up and land destroyed by the out-of-staters.
The continuous fight of Vermonters trying to hold onto their state and heritage has reached beyond the borders of the small state. Pamela Ferdinand published in article in The Washington Post in March 1998 about this very topic. Her article, “In a Manner of Speaking, State Mourns Its Past,” interviews natives about their dwindling unique way of speaking. Ferdinand comments that, "But few people outside the Green Mountain State realize that Vermont is struggling to preserve its own subtle linguistic charm against an onslaught of outsiders. Locals believe more is at stake than their manner of speaking. Vermont expressions, like all dialects, are significant because they enshrine a way of life in a region known for its independent streak, dry wit and lean syntax."
Locals fear that their language will be one of the things robbed if too many flatlanders come to stay within the borders of Vermont. Sonny Davis, one of the Vermonters interviewed for the piece, expressed his fears about flatlanders to Ferdinand by saying, “I kinda feel like a strang-uh in mah own town, I guess. It’s pretty sad, because we’re goin’ to sound like New Jersey.”
Vermont made national headlines in 1998 when a flatlander tried to run for Senate under the Republican Party, and lost. Jack McMullen, a one-year resident of Vermont, tried to win the Republican nomination to run against Senator Leahy for Senate. McMullen, the millionaire, lost to Fred Tuttle, then a 79 year old retired farmer. The farmer, with a 10th grade education and a spending budget of $201, beat the Harvard educated McMullen, who spent $475,000 on his campaign. In the often comical debates, McMullen was exposed as an outsider, a person who didn’t know the state he was trying to win very well. Tuttle asked him in one debate how to pronounce the Vermont town of Calais. McMullen answered it by pronouncing it in the French way (cah-lay) instead of how Vermonters say it, (cah-las). It was clear McMullen didn’t know the state. For what reason did Tuttle win? The simple fact that Tuttle is a native Vermonter, and McMullen a flatlander. McMullen tried to buy his way through the campaign, but Vermonters saw through his ideas. When voting time came, Tuttle won 55% of the primary vote, and putting the farmer into a Senatorial race. Tuttle’s win sent a message nationwide, Vermonters would not be bought over by a flatlander, and would much rather have a retired farmer in the senate. Surprised by the win, Tuttle laughed and lamented he would never want to move to Washington, D.C. so he urged Vermonters to vote for Leahy. Tuttle’s job was done, and he could go back to his farm.
Within local politics, the Vermont Senate in January 2001 deliberated on the topic of flatlanders. Dr. William Bloom had made significant contributions to the state, but unfortunately, he was born in New York. The Senate, wanting to bestow upon him an award, deliberated to see if he could become an honorary Vermonter. The Vermont Senate agreed to extend him the privilege of being an honorary Vermonter, but first released this statement:
Whereas, individuals who were born in the Green Mountain State are rightfully proud of their special status as native Vermonters, and Whereas, while a flatlander may reside in Vermont for nearly an entire lifetime, and make an indelible contribution to the quality of life in this state, a flatlander still has not earned the right to be called a native Vermonter…
It is clear, that on all levels in Vermont, this subject is taken seriously, even in the Senate.
The literary field has been no exception to the field of flatlanders. Vermont-born authors have penned books on Vermont ways, and the ways of the flatlander. Rage in the Hills, by Daniel Neary Jr. is a passionate book filled with short stories about the fight between the natives and the outsiders of Vermont. Esther Leiper attempted to inform the flatlanders how to cook in a Vermont way with her book, Flatlanders Guide to North Country Cooking. These two books deal with flatlanders in specific, but countless other Vermont penned books deal with the subject in various ways.
What is the flatlander's take on Vermont? Do they think they are real Vermonters, or do they know the image and label that is bestowed upon them? One brave soul wrote her thoughts in a Vermont Magazine article in the Fall, 2002. Jessie Raymond attended Middlebury College, fell in love with a Vermont man, and settled here with him to start a family. In her article, she beautifully states:
Young and in love, I underestimated the implications that my being a flatlander would have on my decision to marry into a Vermont family. But soon, I learned that the word “flatlander” had nothing to do with the fact that I came from the less mountainous state of Massachusetts. Flatlanders are, in simplest terms, people who may live in Vermont but were not born here. They do not talk like Vermonters. They do not think like Vermonters. And, worst of all, their fumbling attempts to act like Vermonters—by wearing carefully ironed L.L. bean plaid shirts or misusing phrases like “Jeezum crow!”—invoke the ridicule of real Vermonters, who don’t tolerate pretension among their own and sure as hell won’t put up with it from some outsider.
Raymond is a flatlander who has realized her standing, accepted it, and respects Vermonters. Yes, she will probably receive jokes about it for the rest of her life, but at least the Vermonters will know she respects their heritage enough to claim she is not a Vermonter. As she put it, “I think now, having spent 17 years in this state, I know enough about Vermonters to know that I will never qualify as one.
Doc.
Native Vermonter
Flatlanders
by Erin Moreau
The term flatlander derives from ‘flatland’, which describes a geographical location as land that is predominantly flat. A flatlander would be a person who is from this type of a region.
To a Vermonter, the term flatlander takes on a whole new meaning. In the simplest terms, it means a person from outside the confines of Vermont. Often times, the actual geographical location of an outsider can be mountainous, but this weighs little on Vermont’s opinion. There is a gray area of where the flatlander boundaries exist, but to some die-hards, a flatlander is anyone not born in the state of Vermont. Others only consider the states south of Vermont that are located within New England. Massachusetts, Connecticut and Rhode Island fall victim to the term by this definition, but it is unlike Vermonters to leave out New Jersey on their definition of flatlander. And for some, a flatlander is anyone with white plates on their car.
Flatlander is used as a negative slander on non-native Vermonters or visitors. In it’s basic concept, the term implies a person who visits the state or lives here that brings negative qualities from their home to our state. It is a person who is unfamiliar with traditional Vermont ways. Nathan Mansfield, a native Vermonter, defines the term as “Thinking they [a flatlander] can meld their beliefs of what Vermont is into our reality.” Unfortunately for the flatlander, even if they assimilate to Vermont culture and reside here for 50 years, they can never rid themselves of this label.
Opinions on this term run from strong to mild. Hal Goldman, a local lawyer, is passionate about flatlanders, and blames significant problems plaguing Vermont upon this group of people.
Hundreds of thousands of highly educated, well-off people invaded a state [Vermont] with a unique culture and history. They seized control of its resources and institutions, demeaned and destroyed the indigenous values of its people, altered the landscape, and drove many of the natives from their homes as a result of their activities. If this happened in Africa, the same people would call it colonialism. In Vermont, it’s called liberal chic.
Goldman is just one of many angry Vermonters, who have seen businesses close up and land destroyed by the out-of-staters.
The continuous fight of Vermonters trying to hold onto their state and heritage has reached beyond the borders of the small state. Pamela Ferdinand published in article in The Washington Post in March 1998 about this very topic. Her article, “In a Manner of Speaking, State Mourns Its Past,” interviews natives about their dwindling unique way of speaking. Ferdinand comments that, "But few people outside the Green Mountain State realize that Vermont is struggling to preserve its own subtle linguistic charm against an onslaught of outsiders. Locals believe more is at stake than their manner of speaking. Vermont expressions, like all dialects, are significant because they enshrine a way of life in a region known for its independent streak, dry wit and lean syntax."
Locals fear that their language will be one of the things robbed if too many flatlanders come to stay within the borders of Vermont. Sonny Davis, one of the Vermonters interviewed for the piece, expressed his fears about flatlanders to Ferdinand by saying, “I kinda feel like a strang-uh in mah own town, I guess. It’s pretty sad, because we’re goin’ to sound like New Jersey.”
Vermont made national headlines in 1998 when a flatlander tried to run for Senate under the Republican Party, and lost. Jack McMullen, a one-year resident of Vermont, tried to win the Republican nomination to run against Senator Leahy for Senate. McMullen, the millionaire, lost to Fred Tuttle, then a 79 year old retired farmer. The farmer, with a 10th grade education and a spending budget of $201, beat the Harvard educated McMullen, who spent $475,000 on his campaign. In the often comical debates, McMullen was exposed as an outsider, a person who didn’t know the state he was trying to win very well. Tuttle asked him in one debate how to pronounce the Vermont town of Calais. McMullen answered it by pronouncing it in the French way (cah-lay) instead of how Vermonters say it, (cah-las). It was clear McMullen didn’t know the state. For what reason did Tuttle win? The simple fact that Tuttle is a native Vermonter, and McMullen a flatlander. McMullen tried to buy his way through the campaign, but Vermonters saw through his ideas. When voting time came, Tuttle won 55% of the primary vote, and putting the farmer into a Senatorial race. Tuttle’s win sent a message nationwide, Vermonters would not be bought over by a flatlander, and would much rather have a retired farmer in the senate. Surprised by the win, Tuttle laughed and lamented he would never want to move to Washington, D.C. so he urged Vermonters to vote for Leahy. Tuttle’s job was done, and he could go back to his farm.
Within local politics, the Vermont Senate in January 2001 deliberated on the topic of flatlanders. Dr. William Bloom had made significant contributions to the state, but unfortunately, he was born in New York. The Senate, wanting to bestow upon him an award, deliberated to see if he could become an honorary Vermonter. The Vermont Senate agreed to extend him the privilege of being an honorary Vermonter, but first released this statement:
Whereas, individuals who were born in the Green Mountain State are rightfully proud of their special status as native Vermonters, and Whereas, while a flatlander may reside in Vermont for nearly an entire lifetime, and make an indelible contribution to the quality of life in this state, a flatlander still has not earned the right to be called a native Vermonter…
It is clear, that on all levels in Vermont, this subject is taken seriously, even in the Senate.
The literary field has been no exception to the field of flatlanders. Vermont-born authors have penned books on Vermont ways, and the ways of the flatlander. Rage in the Hills, by Daniel Neary Jr. is a passionate book filled with short stories about the fight between the natives and the outsiders of Vermont. Esther Leiper attempted to inform the flatlanders how to cook in a Vermont way with her book, Flatlanders Guide to North Country Cooking. These two books deal with flatlanders in specific, but countless other Vermont penned books deal with the subject in various ways.
What is the flatlander's take on Vermont? Do they think they are real Vermonters, or do they know the image and label that is bestowed upon them? One brave soul wrote her thoughts in a Vermont Magazine article in the Fall, 2002. Jessie Raymond attended Middlebury College, fell in love with a Vermont man, and settled here with him to start a family. In her article, she beautifully states:
Young and in love, I underestimated the implications that my being a flatlander would have on my decision to marry into a Vermont family. But soon, I learned that the word “flatlander” had nothing to do with the fact that I came from the less mountainous state of Massachusetts. Flatlanders are, in simplest terms, people who may live in Vermont but were not born here. They do not talk like Vermonters. They do not think like Vermonters. And, worst of all, their fumbling attempts to act like Vermonters—by wearing carefully ironed L.L. bean plaid shirts or misusing phrases like “Jeezum crow!”—invoke the ridicule of real Vermonters, who don’t tolerate pretension among their own and sure as hell won’t put up with it from some outsider.
Raymond is a flatlander who has realized her standing, accepted it, and respects Vermonters. Yes, she will probably receive jokes about it for the rest of her life, but at least the Vermonters will know she respects their heritage enough to claim she is not a Vermonter. As she put it, “I think now, having spent 17 years in this state, I know enough about Vermonters to know that I will never qualify as one.
Doc.
Native Vermonter
Devil Doc
When Death smiles, Corpsmen smile back
I'll bet you dollars to donuts that it's Maple Grove. A Vermont co., but the syrup comes from Quebec.
Doc.
Dave
Padilla Lanceros, yum yum!!
Is it made with High Fructose Corn Syrup? I'm trying to cut that out of my diet.
Devil Doc
When Death smiles, Corpsmen smile back
No, it's real. It just comes from Canada. Quebec is the largest producer of Maple syrup in the world. VT, is the largest producer in the US.
Doc.
BkCloud114
I hate Moochers !!!!!
No High Fructose corn syrup.... The wife and I try to avoid that as much as possible also.
We found some interesting research on the stuff.... not too good for you
smellysell
Go Vols!!!
DD, that write up about "flatlanders" sounds a lot like how we Montanans feel about "out of staters", especially Californians. All these Hollywood a@# ponies come in and buy up all the nice land and then don't even use it.
No offense Rigo. :whistling:
No offense Rigo. :whistling:
Dave
Padilla Lanceros, yum yum!!
A little light for those who aren't in the know.
Taken from Muscle & Fitness Magazine February 2007 Ask the Expert pg78, Matthew Kadey, MS, RD
Q: I've Heard that high-fructose corn syrup is less healthy than regular sugar. Is this true?
A: In a word, yes! In the late 1960's, sly scientists figured out how to convert cornstarch into high-fructose corn syrup (HFSC) that, because of higher fructose levels, has the benefit of being sweeter than table sugar, which contains more glucose. Since then, HFCS has been a success story for subsidized corn growers, but a tragedy for waistlines.
Found in everything from cereals to protein bars to breads, HFCS is harmful in two ways. First, unlike glucose, the fructose in HFCS fails to cause the release of hunger-suppressing hormones, meaning you're more likely to overindulge in doughnuts or binge on regular soda. Second, this fructose is metabolized in the liver in such a way that promotes fat storage, whereas glucose is more likely to be stored as muscle glycogen.
Sugary foods aren't so bad after a hard session at the gym, but look for HFCS-free products such as bars sweetened with cane juice or honey. There really is no place for HFCS in anyone's diet, especially for the fitness-minded. Read those labels, and if a food's or drink's ingredients includes HFCS, pass it over in favor of natural sugar.
Mr Peat
Rich Perelman, "Loren you have a Godlike Presence.
Hmmm...I can't keep Maple Syrup in the place. I tend to drink it out of the bottle and never use it on pancakes. 
Its like liquid crack.
I've been wanting to home brew with some real maple syrup that isn't the crap sold in stores here. :thumbs:
Its like liquid crack.I've been wanting to home brew with some real maple syrup that isn't the crap sold in stores here. :thumbs:
Gator
Well-Known Member
Us'n Native Floridians feel the same way about the Damn Yankees (there's a difference between a Yankee and a Damn Yankee) 
Pyre
Back with a vengeance
I made a rib glaze using pure maple syrup. We got ours at wal-mart for $8 per little tiny bottle. I used a cup and it was almost empty. The real stuff is expensive.