Not good you never want to find this

[Mavric]

Was taking a quick look through all my tupadors and ammodors and I found this

Unfortunately this cigar is from 2016 even more unfortunate it was in the Ammodor with all my most expensive cigars. Its has 3 60gram 65% Bovada's in it and has never gotten above 68%.

Now I will have to spend Monday and or Tuesday pulling all the cigars out of that Ammodor inspect and try to figure out what I'm going to do.

 

[{tpc}]

Ugh. I had that experience once, but it was with a bunch of cheap cigars in an even cheaper humidor with those green foam pucks, when I first started. Never again!

Though I’ve been in some b&m stores that would claim that’s great plume! I often wonder why they aren’t around anymore.

 

[Mavric]

Fortunately I have always used Bovada packs or beads. But the Bovada's are just so much easyer and more stable IMO in smaller containers.

 

[bfreebern]

Some would argue that that's plume.

 

[BlindedByScience]

I'd get them out and gently wipe the wrappers with the DI / Ag solution we've been discussing. Leave them out and let them air dry for a couple days, should be OK. Mold on the foot is another thing altogether. You can try cutting 1/8" or so off the foot, see how deep it goes. Much foot molding means the smoke, sadly, is probably a goner. Good luck, it's happened to most of us at one point or another.

 

[rbbrock]

That sucks! And it's surprising given the storage conditions. I would segregate the cigars that were nearest it in a separate, smaller container, and move them to the front of the smoking order. It goes without saying that the entire contents of the original container need to be carefully inspected, and the container cleaned.

 

[Mavric]

Just somthing I came across, I dont know if I could ever be convinced it's not mold.


Not the best at down loading the govee data. But this it what the Ammodor humidity record is for the last month. I check the Govee app atleast once a day and have temp and humidity alarms setup. This is just confusing and frustrating

 

[BlindedByScience]

The guys down under did a very scientific study with some micro biologists on plume and mold. After they analyzed submitted samples of 'plume'.....they found mold in every case. It's worth looking up and reading. I'm 95% of the way to 'there's no such thing as plume' but remain open to facts as they come out.

Your hygro readings seem very reasonable, but without knowing how the cigars were stored before you got them, there's a piece of the puzzle missing. Too many vendors sell very over-humidified smokes on purpose, claiming they're doing the customer a favor (as was told to me). Their logic is lots of customers don't have proper storage, so they ship them wet.

The other piece of that puzzle is folks generally don't realize how long it takes for a cigar to 'equilibrate' to the environment. If you take a 'wet' cigar and put it in 65% storage, while the wrapper will dry out quickly, the binder and certainly the filler will take much, much longer to get there. Months, typically. "Dry boxing" a stick for a day or two does little to nothing, other than the wrapper.

....so, hypothetically, a wet cigar, stored with other cigars (at the vendor) which may have shown mold, shipped to you, stored properly but drying out slowly....and mold can take off. A 100% guess on my part, based on my own experience.

Get them out of the box, wipe them down, wipe the storage with DI / Ag, and let it dry out with the lid open for a couple days. Once everything has calmed down, you can start over. It's happened to almost everyone at some point, usually with the good stuff. Hang in there, good luck...

 

[Mavric]

I'd get them out and gently wipe the wrappers with the DI / Ag solution we've been discussing. Leave them out and let them air dry for a couple days, should be OK. Mold on the foot is another thing altogether. You can try cutting 1/8" or so off the foot, see how deep it goes. Much foot molding means the smoke, sadly, is probably a goner. Good luck, it's happened to most of us at one point or another.

I have seen some people using colloidal silver, any option on that?

 

[BlindedByScience]

Ag = colloidal silver.... Great stuff, kills mold well.

 

[dawgie34203]

Aw man, that sucks! Hopefully you can salvage some…

 

[MX]

Listen to @BlindedByScience

He slept in a Holiday Inn last night!

But really, he knows his stuffs!!!!

 

[BlindedByScience]

Listen to @BlindedByScience

He slept in a Holiday Inn last night!

But really, he knows his stuffs!!!!

.....your check's in the mail, bro.....